Reptilians could ruin our soccer pitch

[Ando]

I know some folks are just going to pay no attention to this assuming it could never happen. Unfortunately, that is not the case. And, to say that a team of covert extraterrestrial overlords practicing on our pitch would not damage it is crazy. You don't see the Establishment of a New World Order and Association Football played on the same grass field on any kind of regular basis for a reason. Successful D1 NCAA soccer programs don't even practice on their competition field. Proenza is gone, our AD has made questionable decisions in the past, and our new president (like president Obama) is a big lizard in a mansuit. UA has a history of sinking a lot of money into serpent men at the expense of other sports. History could easily repeat itself. UA soccer fans don't ignore this.

[yazan07]

Dude someone copied your post here word for word except theirs was about football. That is plagiarism

[Ando]

and the forum time stamps reflect that his thread somehow appeared first?

also, he removed the reference to president obama being a lizard?

there appears to be a growing amount of evidence that "Zip_ME87" is at the very least connected to some very powerful people, if he is not himself a reptilian???

[zen]

[Zip_ME87]

I do appreciate creative criticism. Oh well, I'm passionate about my Zips and especially my soccer team. Browns, Reptilians, or Clowns DON"T MESS WITH THE FIELD THAT CALEB PORTER BUILT!!!

[Balsy]

Caleb porter is gone. So is the success he had here. Focus that energy and efforts on demanding a new coach, than waisting it on your opinion of the Cleveland Browns.

[Zip_ME87]

Caleb porter is gone. So is the success he had here. Focus that energy and efforts on demanding a new coach, than waisting it on your opinion of the Cleveland Browns.

We certainly won't get that success back by f'ing up our soccer facility. Ask Ken Lolla why he left.

I'll choose to spend my time on what I think is important rather than follow the advice of someone I don't know. Don't bother to read my posts if you think they're a waste (not waist) of time.

[Balsy]

We certainly won't get that success back by f'ing up our soccer facility. Ask Ken Lolla why he left.

I'll choose to spend my time on what I think is important rather than follow the advice of someone I don't know. Don't bother to read my posts if you think they're a waste (not waist) of time.

Why exactly did Ken Lolla leave? Because the facilities are the same as they were when Caleb Porter was here...I'm not attacking you Zip_Me87 on that point...I just don't understand it.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest soccer fan, but I would love nothing more than the Zips to return to their 2009-2010 form. That was the first time enjoyed going to a soccer game. They were exciting, they won (a lot) and unlike many teams at UA at the time, they played like winners.

However, I don't think a D-I institution like Akron, that has constant financial issues it has, can really afford not to explore every opportunity to let a facility sit unused. I do agree that there perhaps should be some constraints to it (not tackling) but I really don't think running a few training camp drills on the field would be that bad...especially for a couple of weeks in the summer.

[zippy5]

Some folks forget our school is a school. Sacrifice a couple possible divots for the chance to have tens of thousands of people seeing our campus for the first time. Seems like a no brainer.

[Zip_ME87]

Why exactly did Ken Lolla leave? Because the facilities are the same as they were when Caleb Porter was here...I'm not attacking you Zip_Me87 on that point...I just don't understand it.

And don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest soccer fan, but I would love nothing more than the Zips to return to their 2009-2010 form. That was the first time enjoyed going to a soccer game. They were exciting, they won (a lot) and unlike many teams at UA at the time, they played like winners.

However, I don't think a D-I institution like Akron, that has constant financial issues it has, can really afford not to explore every opportunity to let a facility sit unused. I do agree that there perhaps should be some constraints to it (not tackling) but I really don't think running a few training camp drills on the field would be that bad...especially for a couple of weeks in the summer.

Ken Lolla left mostly because the powers that be would not upgrade our soccer facility. Thus, he felt that he couldn't lure the best soccer players to Akron and consequently he would never win an NCAA championship at UA. When Caleb Porter was hired, he told the powers that be if they upgraded the facilities, he would bring UA an NCAA Men's Soccer National Championship. He almost did it before the upgrade, but the facility we have now only dates back to 2010, the year the Zips were National Champions. You cannot maintain the Mens Soccer Program at the level that Caleb Porter had it without keeping the competition field pristine and ensuring your Head Coach that his team is important. Caleb would have slept on that field if he had to in order to protect it. Any Head Coach that has the passion it takes to win a National Championship is not going to come to Akron or stay at Akron if his sport is disrespected by allowing another team in another sport, especially an outside team, to damage their facility. Although it is not why he left, Caleb was frustrated with the lack of support when he left. Yes, he had a great contract, which I still think was driven by Dr. Proenza, but there was no marketing whatseover for Zips Mens Soccer in 2011 and 2012. Not that marketing of UA sports is good for any sport, but it was mostly limited to Football with some to Basketball. He felt unimportant in the eyes of our AD and his staff. There is no way he would have stayed if UA allowed the Browns on Cub Cadet Field. Why would another dedicated coach allow it? I wasn't close friends with Caleb, but I traveled to numerous away matches and talked with him after games at home and on the road. I knew him well enough to understand the mentality of a truly dedicated and focused head coach. That's why I'm sensitive to even the mere mention of using our pitch for other than competition soccer matches. Having the Columbus Crew come to Akron for a USOC match was awesome. They're a professional soccer team playing in a competitive match. That kind of activity promotes soccer and Akron's standing as a premier NCAA soccer team that an MLS Club would be interested in coming to our campus.

[fknbuflobo]

Ken Lolla left mostly because the powers that be would not upgrade our soccer facility. Thus, he felt that he couldn't lure the best soccer players to Akron and consequently he would never win an NCAA championship at UA. When Caleb Porter was hired, he told the powers that be if they upgraded the facilities, he would bring UA an NCAA Men's Soccer National Championship. He almost did it before the upgrade, but the facility we have now only dates back to 2010, the year the Zips were National Champions. You cannot maintain the Mens Soccer Program at the level that Caleb Porter had it without keeping the competition field pristine and ensuring your Head Coach that his team is important. Caleb would have slept on that field if he had to in order to protect it. Any Head Coach that has the passion it takes to win a National Championship is not going to come to Akron or stay at Akron if his sport is disrespected by allowing another team in another sport, especially an outside team, to damage their facility. Although it is not why he left, Caleb was frustrated with the lack of support when he left. Yes, he had a great contract, which I still think was driven by Dr. Proenza, but there was no marketing whatseover for Zips Mens Soccer in 2011 and 2012. Not that marketing of UA sports is good for any sport, but it was mostly limited to Football with some to Basketball. He felt unimportant in the eyes of our AD and his staff. There is no way he would have stayed if UA allowed the Browns on Cub Cadet Field. Why would another dedicated coach allow it? I wasn't close friends with Caleb, but I traveled to numerous away matches and talked with him after games at home and on the road. I knew him well enough to understand the mentality of a truly dedicated and focused head coach. That's why I'm sensitive to even the mere mention of using our pitch for other than competition soccer matches. Having the Columbus Crew come to Akron for a USOC match was awesome. They're a professional soccer team playing in a competitive match. That kind of activity promotes soccer and Akron's standing as a premier NCAA soccer team that an MLS Club would be interested in coming to our campus.

Excellent points, Zip_ME87!

Folks are calling for Embick's job? No soccer coach worth his salt would ever suffer the insult of any team practicing on his pitch. Dowdy likely would not. Parker would not. Lolla would not. Porter definitely would not. Embick absolutely should not!

I am a lifelong Browns fan. I love the Cleveland Browns. But renting out FACC to them for practice is unconscionable!

Should any Athletic Director or University President acquiesce to such idiocy, I will enthusiastically and vociferously campaign for their ouster.

[bobbyake]

If the Browns were to practice on our soccer field, we would have to get very serious about a campaign asking for the resignation of our AD. His resume at Akron is already a disaster.

[GP1]

Ken Lolla left mostly because the powers that be would not upgrade our soccer facility.

Does anyone know the difference between his current salary and what he was making at UofA?

[GP1]

If the Browns were to practice on our soccer field, we would have to get very serious about a campaign asking for the resignation of our AD. His resume at Akron is already a disaster.

It would go a lot quicker if we would just fire him.

[Zip_ME87]

Should any Athletic Director or University President acquiesce to such idiocy, I will enthusiastically and vociferously campaign for their ouster.

And, under the Ohio Public Records law, I will request a copy from UA of any agreement, including financial terms, with the Browns that allows them to practice at FE Stadium-CC Field to aid you in that endeavor. They had better be prepared for transparency as is required of a Public Institution under Ohio law. I don't see how Browns training camp at UA for 2-3 weeks per year can be a lucrative deal for UA.

http://www.uakron.edu/ogc/legal-policies-and-procedures/records/frequently-asked-questions-regarding-public-records.dot

[K92]

I don't see how Browns training camp at UA for 2-3 weeks per year can be a lucrative deal for UA.

It can't.

[Ando]

[fknbuflobo]

Ah. That give a new meaning to "special arrangement".

[zen]

gotta look close

[Balsy]

don't see how Browns training camp at UA for 2-3 weeks per year can be a lucrative deal for UA.

It can't.

Certainly more lucrative than the current non-existent programs that bring tens of thousands of people to the campus for 2 weeks in July.

[bobbyake]

Certainly more lucrative than the current non-existent programs that bring tens of thousands of people to the campus for 2 weeks in July.

UA soccer camps bring thousands to campus over the summer, or at least they did when Porter was coaching. Those camps always sold out and were very expensive.

[bobbyake]

Certainly more lucrative than the current non-existent programs that bring tens of thousands of people to the campus for 2 weeks in July.

The Crew game on campus brought 2,000 people to campus with a very very tiny little bit of marketing, if any at all. The ones that knew about it were the ones that breath and die Akron soccer.

[Balsy]

UA soccer camps bring thousands to campus over the summer, or at least they did when Porter was coaching. Those camps always sold out and were very expensive.

The Crew game on campus brought 2,000 people to campus with a very very tiny little bit of marketing, if any at all. The ones that knew about it were the ones that breath and die Akron soccer.

Yes, and that is irrelavent to wether or not the Browns will hold practice on campus or not. Browns camp on campus, and the soccer camps/Crew game like events, are not mutually exclusive.

If Browns camp being held on campus would mean we'd have to get rid of those things, than I would agree with you and most everyone else on this thread.

And not to troll or anything, but I was under the impression that "no coach worth his salt would ever let their championship pitch be used for anything else than gameday games."

This discussion is getting into the absurd.

[Ando]

i for one will not stand aside as people turn this very serious thread into a circus

[Spin]

And, under the Ohio Public Records law, I will request a copy from UA of any agreement, including financial terms, with the Browns that allows them to practice at FE Stadium-CC Field to aid you in that endeavor. They had better be prepared for transparency as is required of a Public Institution under Ohio law. I don't see how Browns training camp at UA for 2-3 weeks per year can be a lucrative deal for UA.

http://www.uakron.edu/ogc/legal-policies-and-procedures/records/frequently-asked-questions-regarding-public-records.dot

What are the costs involved compared to the money it would bring in? What would the publicity of "eyes on the campus" be worth if you could buy it?

Is Coach Embrick even capable of recruiting the kind of high school player who would be concerned about divots?

What is the attendance at the soccer pitch since the team isn't what it use to be?

What do First Energy and Cub Cadet think about this?

And most of all, is the grounds crew so incapable that they can't have the stadium ready for soccer season? When the soccer games were played at Cleveland Browns Stadium, was it a World War II minefield???

I see a lot of panties bunched up and no facts to back anything up. I'm looking out for the whole university (as usual) not just the narcissistic wants of a few.