Blue & Gold Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Nathan Rourke, JC QB, 6-2, 210 Recruiting him to backup & push Woody next year. Hope we land him, or we'll only have 2 viable QB's on the roster. The way he talks, it definitely sounds like the coaches are planning on moving TC5 to another position next year. Being JUCO, he'd have 4 years to play 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Landing this guy would definitely be better than filling the roster with another TE we will never utilize, but I wonder how Kato Nelson and (perhaps more importantly) his family barking into his ear will feel about it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 (edited) Kato would have had to expect Akron would be recruiting a QB this recruiting class. If they didn't, they would be heading into next off-season with only 1 QB on the entire roster. As it stands now Rourke has 1 FBS offer so its not like this guy is some hot shot that Kato has no opportunity of beating out for 2017 back-up or 2018 starter. Edited November 17, 2016 by kreed5120 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 5 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: Kato would have had to expect Akron would be recruiting a QB this recruiting class. If they didn't, they would be heading into next off-season with only 1 QB on the entire roster. As it stands now Rourke has 1 FBS offer so its not like this guy is some hot shot that Kato has no opportunity of beating out for 2017 back-up or 2018 starter. Quote "They have a guy coming back next year who will be a senior and they want someone who has played college football before to be the backup," Rourke noted. "They feel like I could come in and push him and compete for the spot, but if not, then I could be the backup and be ready to take over in 2018." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 3 minutes ago, K92 said: Isn't telling 18, 19 year old kids things they want to hear part of recruiting? I'm not saying Rourke won't be the backup and eventual starter and the coaching staff very well might feel he can be, but I do feel Kato will have every opportunity to earn those titles in the off-season by outperforming Rourke. It's not like Kato will be given those titles transferring elsewhere as he hasn't shown anything to this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 30 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: Isn't telling 18, 19 year old kids things they want to hear part of recruiting? I'm not saying Rourke won't be the backup and eventual starter and the coaching staff very well might feel he can be, but I do feel Kato will have every opportunity to earn those titles in the off-season by outperforming Rourke. It's not like Kato will be given those titles transferring elsewhere as he hasn't shown anything to this point. I think there is a real fine art to recruiting where you strike the perfect balance between telling kids what they want to hear while refraining from words and actions that might scare current and future players away. This is turning into different discussion. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 If Nelson is better, he'll get the QB job. If he's not, he won't. There will be 3 scholarship QB's on the roster from here-on-out. The good ones will see the field, and the others will transfer or switch positions. That's the same everywhere... Nelson will get plenty of opportunities to see the field in 2017. If Bowden could see into the future, I'm sure he would have pulled Nelson's redshirt and played him at mid-season. But Woodson's return was always "just around the corner," and Chapman won a couple games. By the time it was clear that Woodson's shoulder wasn't responding, and Chapman couldn't move the chains, it was too late to play Nelson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZippers Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 If anything, I feel like this proves that the coaches do not want Chapman to be a QB next season. Being pushed (and potentially beaten in the short term) by another competitor can only help Kato's future success, but hurts a player like Chapman with only one season left. To go to the recruiting discussion, my guess would be that nobody ever said he would be the backup and eventual starter. Our coaches probably stated that we have an established starter with one year left and when he leaves it will be an open competition. Of course, a young kid will try to turn that into a better situation for himself when discussing it with other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 9 minutes ago, UAZippers said: If anything, I feel like this proves that the coaches do not want Chapman to be a QB next season. Being pushed (and potentially beaten in the short term) by another competitor can only help Kato's future success, but hurts a player like Chapman with only one season left. To go to the recruiting discussion, my guess would be that nobody ever said he would be the backup and eventual starter. Our coaches probably stated that we have an established starter with one year left and when he leaves it will be an open competition. Of course, a young kid will try to turn that into a better situation for himself when discussing it with other people. I agree that's probably how the discussion went. Woodson has shown enough when healthy that I can't see his job being in jeopardy. The back-up job and 2018 starter role would have to be earned, not just given to someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 37 minutes ago, kreed5120 said: The back-up job and 2018 starter role would have to be earned, not just given LeBron? Welcome to Zips Nation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 3 hours ago, K92 said: I wonder how Kato Nelson and...his family barking into his ear will feel about it? If I were confident in my abilities, I wouldn't flinch. "Rourke started every game for the Greyhounds, leading them to a 4-7 record while going 221 of 378 for 2,367 yards with 18 touchdowns and 13 interceptions" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComettoZip Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 http://gozips.com/sports/fball/2016-17/bios/uecker_clayton_bqc7?view=bio what about this guy, on roster, sitting this year because a transfer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 32 minutes ago, ComettoZip said: http://gozips.com/sports/fball/2016-17/bios/uecker_clayton_bqc7?view=bio what about this guy, on roster, sitting this year because a transfer I hope they aren't counting on a D2 transfer who completed less than 50% of his passes. My guess is he's the next Matthew Hoyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skip-zip Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 Why am I just a little uneasy when I see you guys talking about someone who appears to be excited about getting offers from I-AA schools? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Why am I just a little uneasy when I see you guys talking about someone who appears to be excited about getting offers from I-AA schools? The majority of our players had offers from us, maybe 1 or 2 other G5 schools, and FCS offers. Nothing wrong with being respectful to the programs regardless. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 15 minutes ago, LZIp said: Nothing wrong with being respectful to the programs regardless. Being respectful? Or telling the world how excited you are about it? How are any of us to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) 12 hours ago, skip-zip said: Why am I just a little uneasy when I see you guys talking about someone who appears to be excited about getting offers from I-AA schools? I'm just hoping we sign him to give us viable depth at the QB position next year w/o having to redshirt another true freshman QB. Next year's depth chart: 1. Tommy 2. Kato 3. Nathan This year's depth chart: 1. Tommy 2. Edited November 22, 2016 by Blue & Gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 12 hours ago, skip-zip said: Being respectful? Or telling the world how excited you are about it? How are any of us to know? I'm excited that someone utilized a different descriptor than "blessed." #Rourke_strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted November 22, 2016 Report Share Posted November 22, 2016 I wouldn't read too much into it. It's pretty common place for recruits to tweet anytime they receive an offer. If he's an upgrade over Chapman (won't be hard to be) I don't care how many FBS offers he receives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted November 23, 2016 Report Share Posted November 23, 2016 If the kid isn't here for spring ball, I would assume that Kato is the true back-up. Kato has been learning the offense. We need a third option and I would guess this kid could be it. However, if for some reason Tommy's shoulder problems continue, we need to have someone to compete with Kato. I wouldn't be surprised if we offered another QB who could play next season - another JUCO or 5th year senior. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 26, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 Really? A comparison to Johnny Manziel, huh? Too many easy and painful jokes to be had with that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 59 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said: Really? A comparison to Johnny Manziel, huh? Too many easy and painful jokes to be had with that one. Ignoring the off-the-field stuff, Manzeil's playstyle is a concern. He didn't even have a playbook at A&M. That kind of offense only works if you have a world-class "go up and get the ball" WR that can make plays without set routes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 26, 2016 Report Share Posted November 26, 2016 8 minutes ago, ZachTheZip said: Ignoring the off-the-field stuff, Manzeil's playstyle is a concern. He didn't even have a playbook at A&M. That kind of offense only works if you have a world-class "go up and get the ball" WR that can make plays without set routes. I mean..he did win a Heisman and shatter SEC records. It wasn't all Mike Evans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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