zipsoutsider Posted October 25, 2017 Report Share Posted October 25, 2017 5 hours ago, skip-zip said: I get that, Kreed. Maybe what's really noticeable for an old guy like me is that the early MAC years had everyone playing for a trip to the Silver Bowl in Vegas. A prime Winter destination for fans, and one of only maybe 20 bowl games at the time? It wasn't like a New Years Bowl Game, but at least the MAC title came with a much, much more significant Bowl Reward for the champ. Today (although half the teams get a bowl game today), you could probably take all of the Bowls rewarded to all of the MAC teams, throw them in a barrel, and pick out names. With a little nuance I would agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 9 hours ago, GJGood said: I still say the MAC should have a designated bowl destination for its champion if not in the New Years Six and that this bowl should be against a power 5 conference representative. Used to.The Motor City Bowl went to the MAC champ in 2005 after Akron beat NIU in the MAC Champeenship. That was nice because both games were within easy driving distance. There were actually more 'front runners' at the Motor City Bowl than at the MAC Championship. But,thats the way its always been with Zips football. 'Come talk to me when you actually win something meaningful'. And thats NOT a bowl game in Idaho. Bowden and his crew need to step up now and win the division! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 11 hours ago, Dr Z said: I fear playing in the Bahamas Bowl because I'll be in Miami that day. The logistics would be tempting, but more than epic. I would have to catch a bus in Miami to the train station at 6 am, take the train to Fort Lauderdale, take a three hour boat "shuttle" to the Bahamas arrive near 11 am, find my way to the stadium, more than likely have to leave by 4:30 pm to catch the three hour boat back to Fort Lauderdale. Take the 40 minute train ride back to Miami, and take a bus back to my condo by, oh, I would guess 11:30 pm. ? Just win the MAC please. You could always just do this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 On 10/25/2017 at 1:18 PM, kreed5120 said: Fair or not TV ratings and ticket sales is what drives bowl match-ups. An 8-5 Iowa will generate more viewers and ticket sales than a 11-2 Toledo. Agreed but a 11-2 Toledo should be playing a higher profile opponent than an 8-5 Ohio. It seems to me that the best bowl matchups involving MAc schools now go to those teams who have to fill slots because other conferences did not have enough eligible teams. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 7 minutes ago, GJGood said: Agreed but a 11-2 Toledo should be playing a higher profile opponent than an 8-5 Ohio. It seems to me that the best bowl matchups involving MAc schools now go to those teams who have to fill slots because other conferences did not have enough eligible teams. Totally agree with this. Look no further than 6-6 Miami getting the match up with Miss. St. last year. I mean I guess the MAC champ did end up getting Wisconsin, but that was obviously an outlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA1987 Posted October 27, 2017 Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 (edited) Watched EMU last night and I'm really a fan. They played tough and lost again on 1 possession. They are not going bowling, but if I were an EMU fan I would be very hopeful on future years. Edited October 27, 2017 by UA1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottditzen Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 16 hours ago, UA1987 said: Watched EMU last night and I'm really a fan. They played tough and lost again on 1 possession. They are not going bowling, but if I were an EMU fan I would be very hopeful on future years. It would be easier to like EMU if they were still the HURONS. I can get why Miami changed, but at least Redhawks is a unique name. Eagles? How generic!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 18 hours ago, UA1987 said: Watched EMU last night and I'm really a fan. They played tough and lost again on 1 possession. They are not going bowling, but if I were an EMU fan I would be very hopeful on future years. I have been a fan since last year. They are playing their hearts out and have not figured out how to win, but it will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted October 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Just now, zipsoutsider said: I have been a fan since last year. They are playing their hearts out and have not figured out how to win, but it will come. They were 6-6 last year...they are 2-6 last year, and I doubt they're going to run the table. I wish people had this kind of view with the Zips... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ZippyRulz Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 Boca Raton, please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 I did not do a spreadsheet, but I think if we beat the winner of OU/Miami and beat Kent State we have an automatic bid as the Division winner. If we win one we are Bowl Eligible, but any two out of three should be 99.9% for a bid. If Miami wins and beats us, the entire picture changes, and not for the better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 I have never heard of getting an auto bid as a result of being a division winner. I agree wits most likely, but any proof to this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 hour ago, akronzips71 said: I did not do a spreadsheet, but I think if we beat the winner of OU/Miami and beat Kent State we have an automatic bid as the Division winner. If we win one we are Bowl Eligible, but any two out of three should be 99.9% for a bid. If Miami wins and beats us, the entire picture changes, and not for the better. If Miami beats OU and we beat Miami and lose to OU even if we beat Kent then we don't have a lock on the division. OU could still tie us and win the division based on head-to-head matchup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 24 minutes ago, MDZip said: If Miami beats OU and we beat Miami and lose to OU even if we beat Kent then we don't have a lock on the division. OU could still tie us and win the division based on head-to-head matchup. But if Ohio loses to Miamai and Toledo, and we beat Kent and Miami but lose to OU, do we still take the Division? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 (edited) 10 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said: But if Ohio loses to Miamai and Toledo, and we beat Kent and Miami but lose to OU, do we still take the Division? Yes in that case the Zips would finish at 6-2, OU at best 5-3 and Miami's best case would also be 5-3. Edited October 29, 2017 by MDZip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDMac Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Ohio still has to play Buffalo too. Never know what the other team is going to do so you just have to win the ones they put on your schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 How about we just beat Ohio so we don't have to worry about any of this Prior to this season, the I have never seen the Zips beat BG or OU since I've been a fan. Only makes sense to get both monkey's off the back in the same season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, LZIp said: How about we just beat Ohio so we don't have to worry about any of this Prior to this season, the I have never seen the Zips beat BG or OU since I've been a fan. Only makes sense to get both monkey's off the back in the same season. That would be great but the point is even beating Ohio would not be enough to win the division. It'll help a lot though ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 1 minute ago, MDZip said: That would be great but the point is even beating Ohio would not be enough to win the division. It'll help a lot though ? We need to remember Ohio still has to play Toledo. Almost a guaranteed L there. They really could lose any of their remaining games. I guess the same could be said for us too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Here's a potential scenario I see...... 1) Watch the OU/Miami game on Tuesday in Athens, and hope for an OU win. 2) Miami would have 3 losses, and would be pretty much eliminated. 3) We could still lose to Miami on the road, and beat OU and Kent at home and Win the MAC East and go to Detroit via the head-to-head tiebreaker over OU. So, just that OU win against Miami would change our situation from a "control our own destiny" to "control your own destiny by only having to win our remaining home games" Otherwise, if Miami happens to beat OU, then our road game against Miami on 11/7 becomes MUST WIN or Miami would be able to equal our record and own the tiebreaker against us. And Miami plays the two bottom teams in the MAC West to close the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 18 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Here's a potential scenario I see...... 1) Watch the OU/Miami game on Tuesday in Athens, and hope for an OU win. 2) Miami would have 3 losses, and would be pretty much eliminated. 3) We could still lose to Miami on the road, and beat OU and Kent at home and Win the MAC East and go to Detroit via the head-to-head tiebreaker over OU. So, just that OU win against Miami would change our situation from a "control our own destiny" to "control your own destiny by only having to win our remaining home games" Otherwise, if Miami happens to beat OU, then our road game against Miami on 11/7 becomes MUST WIN or Miami would be able to equal our record and own the tiebreaker against us. And Miami plays the two bottom teams in the MAC West to close the season. I do not think Miami is a likely loss. Overall, we typically play well on the road. The team will be pumped to play Ohio for the MAC east. I think we have to watch and be on guard for a let letdown when we host KSU. Our players knoe how bad KSU is and KSU has managed to play some teams tough. After the 2 seasons they have had, they are going to be desperate for an emotional victory. We need to find a way to want it more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, zipsoutsider said: I do not think Miami is a likely loss. I don't think so either. But even if we beat Miami, we still have to beat OU. I'm just giving you a scenario where we'd only have to win ONE of those games, and would still win the MAC East. And the only way that can happen is if Miami losses their 3rd game on Tuesday in Athens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I also wonder if anyone has noticed that we'll play Miami on 9 days rest, and they will have only 6 days of rest, after playing a road rivalry game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, skip-zip said: I don't think so either. But even if we beat Miami, we still have to beat OU. I'm just giving you a scenario where we'd only have to win ONE of those games, and would still win the MAC East. And the only way that can happen is if Miami losses their 3rd game on Tuesday in Athens. Yeah, it's all possible, but I think we all know in our guts, we really need to beat OU, and really have a legitimate shot at winning out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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