bigzipguy Posted November 14, 2021 Report Posted November 14, 2021 Seattle wins it 4-3 in PK Shootout.Grand Canyoun realllyllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy blew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote
GoZips88 Posted November 14, 2021 Report Posted November 14, 2021 1 minute ago, bigzipguy said: Seattle wins it 4-3 in PK Shootout.Grand Canyoun realllyllllllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy blew it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! O-U-C-H !!!!!!!!!!! Quote
SBZipfan Posted November 14, 2021 Report Posted November 14, 2021 Final RPIs are up. Akron is #27. Last team in (if going strictly by RPI) is #37 Loyola Marymount. Out are Michigan, Rhode Island, Cornell, Elon, Northeastern, Stanford, VCU, Central Arkansas, BUGS. The Zips are a lock for a slot. Might even get a home game. Quote
bigzipguy Posted November 14, 2021 Report Posted November 14, 2021 Problem is You cannot go strictly by RPI 1 Quote
SBZipfan Posted November 14, 2021 Report Posted November 14, 2021 Sure, but check out the records of the teams I listed who are out by RPI. On what basis would one of those teams get in over Akron? Akron has the best win, over #7 Pitt, of any them, a better strength-of-schedule than any except Michigan, which is 1-6-0 against the top 25 while Akron is 2-2-2. Etc etc. Quote
SBZipfan Posted November 14, 2021 Report Posted November 14, 2021 It's based on facts, my friend! Unless the committee decides to invent entirely new criteria (like must finish in top 4 in conference), the Zips are in. 1 Quote
TennZip Posted November 14, 2021 Author Report Posted November 14, 2021 20 minutes ago, SBZipfan said: Final RPIs are up. Akron is #27. Last team in (if going strictly by RPI) is #37 Loyola Marymount. Out are Michigan, Rhode Island, Cornell, Elon, Northeastern, Stanford, VCU, Central Arkansas, BUGS. The Zips are a lock for a slot. Might even get a home game. http://rpiupdatemenssoccer.blogspot.com/search/label/Tournament Projection I agree very much with you .....that it would take an absolute royal screw job by the NCAA for the zips not to get in. If you look at Gaucho Dan's tournament projections (strictly by RPI), the zips are the 17th ranked at large team out of 25. For the Zips not to get in, the NCAA committee would have to embarrass themselves by taking at least 9 teams with a lower RPI than AKRON. As SBZipfan points out, the zips have some impressive results....win over regular season ACC champ Pitt, win over Big Ten regular season and tournament champ Penn State and ties against two top 25 teams...West Virginia and Indiana last 4 teams in..according to Gaucho Dan...34. Wake Forest ; 35. Charlotte ; 36. Georgia State and 37. Loyola Marymount we all know that the NCAA loves their big conferences....I will be shocked if #38 Michigan does not get in....the Big Ten will go nuts if they only get 3 in the tourney let's look at the conference breakdown of the 25 at large teams...projected by Gaucho Dan ACC - 7 Duke, Clemson, Pitt, North Carolina, VA Tech, Louisville and Wake Forest Big East - 4 Providence, Creighton, Villanova and St. Johns Conference USA - 3 Marshall, FIU and Charlotte Mid American Conference - 3 West Virginia, Akron and Georgia State Big Ten - 2 Indiana, Maryland PAC 12 -2 Washington, UCLA West Coast Conference - 2 Portland, Loyola Marymount American East - 1 #11 New Hampshire WAC - 1 #12 Grand Canyon I am sure that the PAC 12 guys on the committee will want their league to have more teams than the MAC....or conference USA I would not be shocked to see Michigan and Stanford make the field...with GA State, Loyola Marymount or Charlotte...most likely to just miss 1 Quote
bigzipguy Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 Do not be shocked if Ga State makes it in. They beat us at our place and went to O.T. at N. ILL before they lost in the tournament finals. Quote
zippypitt Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 I appreciate all of the hard work and research that went into this thread. However, this team doesn't have it this year. Their 1-4-1 road record speaks volumes about their tournament chances if they make it. Plus, the NCAA does Akron ZERO favors. 1 Quote
malonepioneer12 Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 I would love Akron to be in…but in all honesty…how could they be in? If you can’t make your conference top 4, that is bad. Especially with so few teams in the MAC. I’m not sure they deserve it, no matter their RPI. That being said I hope they make it, but if they don’t they only have themselves to blame. 3 1 Quote
zippypitt Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 28 minutes ago, malonepioneer12 said: I would love Akron to be in…but in all honesty…how could they be in? If you can’t make your conference top 4, that is bad. Especially with so few teams in the MAC. I’m not sure they deserve it, no matter their RPI. That being said I hope they make it, but if they don’t they only have themselves to blame. If it comes down to UA vs. GA State, the selection committee has to go GA State: - Better overall record - Better MAC record - Won head to head 3-1 ON ROAD - Tournament finalist; Lost in OT 1 hour ago, bigzipguy said: Do not be shocked if Ga State makes it in. They beat us at our place and went to O.T. at N. ILL before they lost in the tournament finals. They should make it. That home result hurt big time. Quote
SBZipfan Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, zippypitt said: If it comes down to UA vs. GA State, the selection committee has to go GA State: - Better overall record - Better MAC record - Won head to head 3-1 ON ROAD - Tournament finalist; Lost in OT That is all outweighed by Akron's much stronger overall schedule (#25 vs #80) and much better results against the top 25 (2-2-2 vs 1-3-0). The committee wants teams that have shown they can compete at a high level. Akron's case for that is much stronger than GA State's. That said, I expect GA State to get in along with Akron. Edited November 15, 2021 by SBZipfan Quote
bigzipguy Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 ???? SO N.ILL, in. W. Virg in. Ga. State in Akron IN. ????????? four Mac teams , unless you think W.virg would not get in ????????????????????? Quote
SBZipfan Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 NIU has the MAC auto bid. RPI #19 WVU and #26 Akron are almost certainly in. #36 GaSt is much less certain, they are the next-to-last team in by pure RPI. Their best wins are over WVU and Akron. A team like #39 Michigan, which played a much tougher schedule but lost to most of those tough teams (but beat #13 Indiana) could get in ahead of GaSt. It's pretty random for the last handful of teams in or out. 2 Quote
TennZip Posted November 15, 2021 Author Report Posted November 15, 2021 I will go out on a limb...and probably show that I am awful at predictions.... Akron gets in...and gets a home game Michigan will get in and play at Akron Winner of that game will have to play at Notre Dame go, zips 2nd guess....Akron gets in....but NCAA treats them poorly Akron gets sent to play at Louisville in first round Winner has to go play at Kentucky Quote
Zip_ME87 Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 Selection show is streamed at 1 pm EST today. https://www.ncaa.com/live-updates/soccer-men/d1/2021-ncaa-di-mens-soccer-tournament-selection-show-date-time-how-watch 1 Quote
LoyalZIP Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 Amazing, time to make a run! 1 Quote
Zip_ME87 Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 CONGRATULATIONS Zips!!! Let's Go!!! 1 1 Quote
Zip_ME87 Posted November 15, 2021 Report Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) Correction! Four FIVE MAC members in the NCAA Tournament. WOW. WVU with the #11 seed. Edited November 15, 2021 by Zip_ME87 Quote
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