The World of College Football

[exit322]

1 minute ago, kreed5120 said:

So each team plays only 1 game a year?

 

No no, they'd play 5 or 6 home games as they do now.  Just on days fans can attend.

[kreed5120]

11 minutes ago, exit322 said:

 

No no, they'd play 5 or 6 home games as they do now.  Just on days fans can attend.

 

I feel you over looked my joke that almost all games are sparsely populated outside of rivalry games and maybe homecoming.

[GP1]

1 hour ago, kreed5120 said:

Dr. Steinbrecher did an interview at Ball State. He says that a new media deal is completed in principal, but they're still needing to dot the I's and cross the T's with the paperwork. He says details will become available soon.

 

 

I listened to the interview. He's a dunce. We are screwed. 

[kreed5120]

2 minutes ago, GP1 said:

He's a dunce.

No argument there. Not sure how he has kept the job for so long.

[GP1]

57 minutes ago, dre22era said:

There is no excuse for us being at the very bottom of the MAC not even being able to beat a single FBS school. 

Finances don't got nothing to do with Poor Coaching and Poor Leadership. 

And did we not forget this embarrassment?

Can't even win in the goddamn classroom 

Accountability matters and we need to stop blaming everyone but the damn coach who handpicked the roster and his coaching staff. 

Show me a coach with a roster of bums and I'll show you a loser. 

[GP1]

Just now, kreed5120 said:

No argument there. Not sure how he has kept the job for so long.

Anyone with a brain wouldn't hire him. 

[GP1]

27 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

Soccer is more comparable to what college athletics was 20 years ago. There isn't big money in it like there is college football and college basketball.

 

There are no Big East Soccer roster paying players $5+ million. There are however MAC football rosters where players are getting paid a cumulative $5M+. That's the point you're conveniently overlooking.

 

Akron year after year is getting their best players raided by teams that have more NIL money. College soccer still functions very much as an amateur sport which is why Akron is able to compete. College football at the P4 level has evolved into professional football and at the G6 level it's at least at a semi-pro level. If Akron can't pay a QB, RB, WR, etc he's going to go to WMU, Toledo, Miami, or somewhere else that he can get paid. Players go where the money is. No different than I'm sure you'd leave your current job if a competitor offered you an extra $100k per year to do the same exact job.

 

Edit: Reports are Miami (OH) between revenue share and NIL is fielding an $8-$10 million roster. It's professionals competing against amateurs.

There is little difference between college soccer and college golf. 

[exit322]

8 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I feel you over looked my joke that almost all games are sparsely populated outside of rivalry games and maybe homecoming.

 

A sparsely populated stadium is far better than the empty one we're getting the next two Tuesdays.

[dre22era]

30 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Show me a coach with a roster of bums and I'll show you a loser. 

Who created the roster? = THE GODDAMN COACH! 

He recruited all of them. 

This ain't the NFL

There is no GM! 

[UAZipster0305]

34 minutes ago, GP1 said:

Show me a coach with a roster of bums and I'll show you a loser. 

I think it is a little more nuanced than this though.

 

Even poor talent can and should have good discipline. This team obviously does not. Even if the budget does not change in subsequent seasons, discipline in eliminating bone head plays and penalties would go a long way to making this team competitive again, especially in the MAC.

[GP1]

16 minutes ago, dre22era said:

Who created the roster? 

He did create the roster out of what's leftover when better financed programs get their guys. 

 

I'm not sure many Zips fans realize how behind the eight ball the program is. 

[GP1]

14 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said:

I think it is a little more nuanced than this though.

 

Even poor talent can and should have good discipline. This team obviously does not. Even if the budget does not change in subsequent seasons, discipline in eliminating bone head plays and penalties would go a long way to making this team competitive again, especially in the MAC.

How would you discipline these idiots in a way that would eliminate mistakes?

[dre22era]

Also kids aint transferring just for the $$$

They also leave because the coaching staff is Trash. 

This was Moorhead's 4th full recruiting class coming into this season. 

Offensive guro they say. Fact is our offense is basically the same now as to when he took over 

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 04:40 PM by dre22era

[dre22era]

3 minutes ago, GP1 said:

How would you discipline these idiots in a way that would eliminate mistakes?

The same way other better programs do. = Better Coaching = Better Leadership. 

Again Moorhead handpicked all those "idiots". 

Blame the coach who created the Roster. 

[UAZipster0305]

2 minutes ago, GP1 said:

How would you discipline these idiots in a way that would eliminate mistakes?

I am not the coach, so that's not my problem. There are plenty of coaches in various sports who are able to do so though.

 

Getting the most out of any team's talent is one of the most major skills of a leader in any field. Look at the coaches who have advanced, and this is evident from very early. E.g., Urban Meyer at BUGS. Those teams were clear overachievers. How did he do it? The point is, it is possible.

 

I am not even expecting an Akron football team to be a group of overachievers. A simple transition from being underachievers to performing at least level with their talent would be dramatic. 

[dre22era]

7 minutes ago, GP1 said:

He did create the roster out of what's leftover when better financed programs get their guys. 

 

I'm not sure many Zips fans realize how behind the eight ball the program is. 

Left over my ass. come on man. 

There is plenty of good talent out there. 

A great coach knows how to put together a good roster based on position and potential. 

Mount Union up the road with a much less budget has better talent than our Akron roster. 

The main issue is Joe Moorhead is not a Good Head Coach. 

Just because you were a great OC don't make you a Great Head Coach as it comes with more greater responsibility of scouting talent and putting together great coaching staff and roster and being a great leader and project manager to all. 

Hell Tom Arth is another prime example. Great assistant who is currently Steelers QB coach. Shitty head coach. 

[MangoZip]

2 hours ago, dre22era said:

Left over my ass. come on man. 

There is plenty of good talent out there. 

A great coach knows how to put together a good roster based on position and potential. 

Mount Union up the road with a much less budget has better talent than our Akron roster. 

The main issue is Joe Moorhead is not a Good Head Coach. 

Just because you were a great OC don't make you a Great Head Coach as it comes with more greater responsibility of scouting talent and putting together great coaching staff and roster and being a great leader and project manager to all. 

Hell Tom Arth is another prime example. Great assistant who is currently Steelers QB coach. Shitty head coach. 

There you go again! Are you saying that Mount Union could beat Akron or are just saying they have more talent? You do realize that not one of their players received a D1 offer right? 

[exit322]

Just now, MangoZip said:

There you go again! Are you saying that Mount Union could beat Akron or are just saying they have more talent? You do realize that not one of their players received a D1 offer right? 

 

Of all the years to make this claim...I don't think I'd choose 2026.

[kreed5120]

4 minutes ago, MangoZip said:

There you go again! Are you saying that Mount Union could beat Akron or are just saying they have more talent? You do realize that not one of their players received a D1 offer right? 

 

Yes, I ignored the comment because of the absurdity. His argument would have made better sense had he tried using YSU, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they have more NIL money to spend for football than Akron. 

[GP1]

2 hours ago, UAZipster0305 said:

I am not the coach, so that's not my problem. There are plenty of coaches in various sports who are able to do so though.

 

Getting the most out of any team's talent is one of the most major skills of a leader in any field. Look at the coaches who have advanced, and this is evident from very early. E.g., Urban Meyer at BUGS. Those teams were clear overachievers. How did he do it? The point is, it is possible.

How did Urban Meyer do it?  Very simple, he brought in a future NFL player at QB named Josh Harris. He was only there for two years and got out while the gettin was good. Any player with JHs talent in the NIL era would be at a P4 school. 

 

Pretend you are the coach. How do you discipline them? Most are at Akron because they can't be disciplined or they simply aren't very good. Bench them?....Holy cow, most are already third stringers who found the last place that would take them so the person behind them is even worse. Yell at them?....It goes in one ear and out the other with most guys because they know they can't be benched because of the crap behind them. Kick them off the team?.....If you kicked every moron off of this team, the waterboys would be playing. Make them do more exercise as punishment?.....Most of them can run until their legs fall off. Shame them?.....I don't think guys who transfer as much as guys do today experience much shame. 

 

Seriously, someone tell me how to discipline these idiots. 

[MangoZip]

12 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Yes, I ignored the comment because of the absurdity. His argument would have made better sense had he tried using YSU, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they have more NIL money to spend for football than Akron. 

It’s just absolutely such an asinine and ignorant comment that just proves how little he knows about football and talent. It’s actually laughable. 

[exit322]

15 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

 

Yes, I ignored the comment because of the absurdity. His argument would have made better sense had he tried using YSU, but honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they have more NIL money to spend for football than Akron. 

 

Yeah, the top of FCS and bottom of FBS is a very very blurry line.

 

The bottom of FBS and a two-loss D3 team...like I said, 2026 is a curious year to make the "Mount is better" argument.

[UAZipster0305]

12 minutes ago, GP1 said:

How did Urban Meyer do it?  Very simple, he brought in a future NFL player at QB named Josh Harris. He was only there for two years and got out while the gettin was good. Any player with JHs talent in the NIL era would be at a P4 school. 

 

Pretend you are the coach. How do you discipline them? Most are at Akron because they can't be disciplined or they simply aren't very good. Bench them?....Holy cow, most are already third stringers who found the last place that would take them so the person behind them is even worse. Yell at them?....It goes in one ear and out the other with most guys because they know they can't be benched because of the crap behind them. Kick them off the team?.....If you kicked every moron off of this team, the waterboys would be playing. Make them do more exercise as punishment?.....Most of them can run until their legs fall off. Shame them?.....I don't think guys who transfer as much as guys do today experience much shame. 

 

Seriously, someone tell me how to discipline these idiots. 

It wasn't just Josh Harris. A team does not win with one player. Sure, recruiting helped, but well coached teams don't commonly make stupid and selfish mistakes. There is buy in to the process that is transferred from the coach to the players. That was the essence of BUGS success under Urban Meyer, not a single player. AND Urban Meyer is just a one-off example. There are many others.

 

As to your second paragraph, punitive actions as negative reinforcement are a last resort and should be rare. Establishing a positive culture that includes a vision, values, objectives/goals, and actions that are all part of a consistent narrative is the essence. Coach Porter of our men's soccer program was masterful at these things. Most leaders that are successful are as well.

 

We need to filter through the interview process to find that person, regardless of most of the rest of their resume. Before coming here, Coach Porter was little known and had been a very successful player but was probably not the front runner for the job based on his coaching resume alone.

[dre22era]

1 hour ago, MangoZip said:

There you go again! Are you saying that Mount Union could beat Akron or are just saying they have more talent? You do realize that not one of their players received a D1 offer right? 

Mount Union is a Division III powerhouse with 13 national championships and have actually beat both Akron and Kent State before. My son plays DIII ball at a university in Ohio and after seeing them play Mount Union last month ya damn right I would bet against Akron. They put over 720 yards on us. 
Unlike you I actually watch all football and speak and reference based on what I know. 
I put Mount Union WR Mason Ashby (Canton OH) vs anyone on our offense.

FYI Mason Ashby just completed a binge of 5 straight 100+ yard games. 

50 catches, 740 receiving yards and 6 touchdowns in seven games.

Best believe a FBS team is scooping him up after this season.

Like I been saying, right now Akron is no FBS team to me until they actually beat a damn FBS team. 

 

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 08:31 PM by dre22era

[kreed5120]

37 minutes ago, UAZipster0305 said:

It wasn't just Josh Harris. A team does not win with one player. Sure, recruiting helped, but well coached teams don't commonly make stupid and selfish mistakes. There is buy in to the process that is transferred from the coach to the players. That was the essence of BUGS success under Urban Meyer, not a single player. AND Urban Meyer is just a one-off example. There are many others.

 

As to your second paragraph, punitive actions as negative reinforcement are a last resort and should be rare. Establishing a positive culture that includes a vision, values, objectives/goals, and actions that are all part of a consistent narrative is the essence. Coach Porter of our men's soccer program was masterful at these things. Most leaders that are successful are as well.

 

We need to filter through the interview process to find that person, regardless of most of the rest of their resume. Before coming here, Coach Porter was little known and had been a very successful player but was probably not the front runner for the job based on his coaching resume alone.

The Toledo Blade actually published an article today where they interviewed MAC basketball coaches. People who are far more knowledgeable on the subject than any of us keyboard warriors. This was one of the questions followed by the response.

 

How has the free-agency era changed the way you coach?

 

“Give you an example: If somebody didn't go to class, we used to make them do all these things that were miserable. That was all part of the accountability process. Now, you do that to a player, you lose him for a week or two — I mean, mentally, they disengage — because no one has ever held them accountable, and.the season might be in the toilet. So I just don’t do that anymore. I do more counseling, with a lot less accountability, for lack of a better word.”

Edited Wednesday at 08:36 PM by kreed5120