zipsbandman Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Hint......check the GMAC bowlBG is making this conference look like a joke. Half of the stadium is already empty.....And how bad is Akron? We lost to the Falcons! The MAC is WIDE open and JD better take advantage of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The MAC didn't deserve the three bowls it got this year. Yeah BG had 8 wins, which is more than anyone else in the conference, but that obviously doesn't mean anything. Our MAC East champ finished with a losing record. The MAC West champ got creamed by a 1-AA taem at home. The MAC played too many Big 10 teams again this year, which killed our conference record as a whole and only reaffirmed to the local fans (whose support we are trying to win) that the MAC is small-time. We need to replace all Big 10 games with games against C-USA or sun-belt teams, who will come back to play us at home where we stand a better chance of getting a win. This conference has their priorities backwards. Pulling off a few upsets in the midst of getting creamed overall is not the way to move up in the football world; winning against equal or lesser competition is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
72 Roo Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 UAKid,I believe you are right. The MAC is not a viable conference for Akron to grow its reputation. 20 years ago it was a solid place to be. But with idiotic scheduling and the expansion of D-1 football, the MAC is now watered down and not deserving of any respect. Unfortunately for us, it is the best we can do and we are certainly not helping the MAC to grow its reputation. In spite of that we needto focus on what we need, which is a better conference. Personally, I do not feel Conference USA is the answer. To me our only hope is a long shot at the Bid East when they expand ( and after thay take Central Florida first) or a new conference that none of us can foresee for now.Either way, the Zips have to get out of the MAC if they want to reach their full potential as a total athletic program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you am i Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 BGSU and BSU embarrassed the conference, and the sad fact is they probably were the two best teams. Hopefully, this was just a down year for the MAC. And, realistically, there are no other conference options on the table.The glass half-full view is that the MAC is ripe for a quality program to dominate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I kind of think the MAC was very inconsistent this year, it was so hard to gauge (See BGSU beating us by 40, a 7-0 game between us and Miami, and Miami beating BGSU by 40). A different team showed up each night for every team except Central Michigan, who unsursprisingly ran the table on their MAC schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno aka Menace Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I kind of think the MAC was very inconsistent this year, it was so hard to gauge (See BGSU beating us by 40, a 7-0 game between us and Miami, and Miami beating BGSU by 40). A different team showed up each night for every team except Central Michigan, who unsursprisingly ran the table on their MAC schedule.We lost to the 2 best teams in the conference Miami by 7 and Central by 3, and guess what "the central Michigan coach" will not be there long if he has another good season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uafan Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The MAC didn't deserve the three bowls it got this year. Yeah BG had 8 wins, which is more than anyone else in the conference, but that obviously doesn't mean anything. Our MAC East champ finished with a losing record. The MAC West champ got creamed by a 1-AA taem at home. The MAC played too many Big 10 teams again this year, which killed our conference record as a whole and only reaffirmed to the local fans (whose support we are trying to win) that the MAC is small-time. We need to replace all Big 10 games with games against C-USA or sun-belt teams, who will come back to play us at home where we stand a better chance of getting a win. This conference has their priorities backwards. Pulling off a few upsets in the midst of getting creamed overall is not the way to move up in the football world; winning against equal or lesser competition is.UAkid, I agree with you! Starting each year with a losing record is not the way to build a program or fan base. And there is no way another conference would ever look at us until we have a winning program year in and year out. If we started each year with a CUSA school and beat them, we would grow some respect. But until we do that, no other conference would even look at a second tier MAC program! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 If we started each year with a CUSA school and beat them, we would grow some respect. But until we do that, no other conference would even look at a second tier MAC program!Isn't Tulsa a C-USA program? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno aka Menace Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Yeah they are, and based on that score we aren't ready to play them either!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The MAC is bad and getting worse. The week night games are not helping the quality of product on the field. Most schools have too small of a fan base to really compete. The league looks foolish in bowl games and any bowl committee not looking into getting out of their affiliation with the MAC would be a committee full of crazy people (with the exception of the Motor City Bowl). Scheduling is at best poor as the schools do nothing but allow themselves to be practice games for BCS conference schools. Our conference champion lost by 50+ to Clemson which plays in an average conference (ACC) that they could not even win their division.Today is a sad day for the MAC. I would go as far as to say CMU could not beat App. State, which leads me to a point I hate to make......The MAC is a I-AA conference and the commissioner should call an immediate meeting of all MAC Athletic Directors to discuss the future of the MAC as a I-AA conference (it would not hurt basketball). The ADs wouldn't do it because it would look bad on their resumes, but that's what they should do.Sorry to be so negative, but I did not see much positive in MAC football this season. All trends point to it getting worse.Have a nice day everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uafan Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The MAC is bad and getting worse. The week night games are not helping the quality of product on the field. Most schools have too small of a fan base to really compete. The league looks foolish in bowl games and any bowl committee not looking into getting out of their affiliation with the MAC would be a committee full of crazy people (with the exception of the Motor City Bowl). Scheduling is at best poor as the schools do nothing but allow themselves to be practice games for BCS conference schools. Our conference champion lost by 50+ to Clemson which plays in an average conference (ACC) that they could not even win their division.Today is a sad day for the MAC. I would go as far as to say CMU could not beat App. State, which leads me to a point I hate to make......The MAC is a I-AA conference and the commissioner should call an immediate meeting of all MAC Athletic Directors to discuss the future of the MAC as a I-AA conference (it would not hurt basketball). The ADs wouldn't do it because it would look bad on their resumes, but that's what they should do.Sorry to be so negative, but I did not see much positive in MAC football this season. All trends point to it getting worse.Have a nice day everyone.Well put, GP1! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted January 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The MAC is bad and getting worse. The week night games are not helping the quality of product on the field. Most schools have too small of a fan base to really compete. The league looks foolish in bowl games and any bowl committee not looking into getting out of their affiliation with the MAC would be a committee full of crazy people (with the exception of the Motor City Bowl). Scheduling is at best poor as the schools do nothing but allow themselves to be practice games for BCS conference schools. Our conference champion lost by 50+ to Clemson which plays in an average conference (ACC) that they could not even win their division.Today is a sad day for the MAC. I would go as far as to say CMU could not beat App. State, which leads me to a point I hate to make......The MAC is a I-AA conference and the commissioner should call an immediate meeting of all MAC Athletic Directors to discuss the future of the MAC as a I-AA conference (it would not hurt basketball). The ADs wouldn't do it because it would look bad on their resumes, but that's what they should do.Sorry to be so negative, but I did not see much positive in MAC football this season. All trends point to it getting worse.Have a nice day everyone.That's the truth. Maybe we're in over our heads in football. March madness is way better than the bowls. I wouldn't mind putting more emphasis on basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The MAC is bad and getting worse. The week night games are not helping the quality of product on the field. Most schools have too small of a fan base to really compete. The league looks foolish in bowl games and any bowl committee not looking into getting out of their affiliation with the MAC would be a committee full of crazy people (with the exception of the Motor City Bowl). Scheduling is at best poor as the schools do nothing but allow themselves to be practice games for BCS conference schools. Our conference champion lost by 50+ to Clemson which plays in an average conference (ACC) that they could not even win their division.Today is a sad day for the MAC. I would go as far as to say CMU could not beat App. State, which leads me to a point I hate to make......The MAC is a I-AA conference and the commissioner should call an immediate meeting of all MAC Athletic Directors to discuss the future of the MAC as a I-AA conference (it would not hurt basketball). The ADs wouldn't do it because it would look bad on their resumes, but that's what they should do.Sorry to be so negative, but I did not see much positive in MAC football this season. All trends point to it getting worse.Have a nice day everyone.Well put, GP1!Thanks!I could have gone on all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 The MAC is bad and getting worse. The week night games are not helping the quality of product on the field. Most schools have too small of a fan base to really compete. The league looks foolish in bowl games and any bowl committee not looking into getting out of their affiliation with the MAC would be a committee full of crazy people (with the exception of the Motor City Bowl). Scheduling is at best poor as the schools do nothing but allow themselves to be practice games for BCS conference schools. Our conference champion lost by 50+ to Clemson which plays in an average conference (ACC) that they could not even win their division.Today is a sad day for the MAC. I would go as far as to say CMU could not beat App. State, which leads me to a point I hate to make......The MAC is a I-AA conference and the commissioner should call an immediate meeting of all MAC Athletic Directors to discuss the future of the MAC as a I-AA conference (it would not hurt basketball). The ADs wouldn't do it because it would look bad on their resumes, but that's what they should do.Sorry to be so negative, but I did not see much positive in MAC football this season. All trends point to it getting worse.Have a nice day everyone.That's the truth. Maybe we're in over our heads in football. March madness is way better than the bowls. I wouldn't mind putting more emphasis on basketball.Thanks.I could write the exact same post about MAC basketball.I love the bowls, but we have only made one. I love MM, but we never make it. We're always "building" to get there though. That's all MAC schools do is build for the future. Big on building, little in results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apalmison Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 I agree with most of the discussion so far. I'll add this - the failure to capitalize on successes. Not just for Akron, but conference-wide. Wasn't it just a few years ago the MAC had 3 ranked teams at one point? Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it BG, Miami, and Toledo - - all Ohio schools. In a recruiting hot-bed like Ohio (that I put up there with CA, FL, and TX), those teams at least should have been able to build off of that success. But, as has been said here many teams, there has been no dominant team in the MAC for some time now. It's going to take a lot for our reputation to recover as a conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 7, 2008 Report Share Posted January 7, 2008 Well, with a new stadium coming, I think it's safe to say that our U is dedicated to growing the football program. So, the idea of being a Xavier or Dayton, where we concentrate on basketball, is pretty much off the board.With that said, obviously our destiny lies in our ability to maybe dominate the MAC. If we do that and attract some higher attendance, we can get out, like Marshall. If not, we're in for the long haul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno aka Menace Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Can someone help me out here, I always considered us like a Central Florida, 1. They have a large market in Orlando / We have Akron,Canton,Cleveland2. They struggled in the MAC so do we3. They have to compete with FSU, Miami, Florida, and now USF, FAU, FIU, FamU etc. / We have OSU and Cinci and the MAC4. They are a public school / we are a public school5. They got a new stadium / we have one on the wayHopefully we will have the same success, because they are clearly on their way up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziptrumpet87 Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Can someone help me out here, I always considered us like a Central Florida, 1. They have a large market in Orlando / We have Akron,Canton,Cleveland2. They struggled in the MAC so do we3. They have to compete with FSU, Miami, Florida, and now USF, FAU, FIU, FamU etc. / We have OSU and Cinci and the MAC4. They are a public school / we are a public school5. They got a new stadium / we have one on the wayHopefully we will have the same success, because they are clearly on their way up.some other things to consider:FL population is increasing, OH is decreasing.FL tuition is inexpensive (my son is leaning towards UCF over all Ohio schools due to cost), OH tuition is more expensiveFL weather is usually nice in the fall, OH is unpredictable and often cold and rainy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flipthezip Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 That is about all we have in common with UCF. They are the 7th largest university(47K+) in the country and have a pretty selective enrollment. They accept less than 50% of their applicants.Average freshman SAT 1200, ACT 26, GPA 3.7Tuition is very reasonable for in state students and establishing Florida residency is pretty easy- 1 year. Lots of jobs in Orlando to get you thru that 1st year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 8, 2008 Report Share Posted January 8, 2008 Sports PickleThe Sports Pickle has some fun at the expense of the MAC.....and Purdue for that matter. Toward the bottom right of the front page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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