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With the backs and TEs we had, I don't think the 4-5 WR spreads made the most sense. Just, Ben would have been good enough in that role. Alas, here we are.

Oh, so they got serious about their program and leveraged the assets they do have. Ah, ok. That makes sense.

The issue here is more Joe's recruiting than Joe's coaching. I think he did maximize Finley...but yeah Finley wasn't it. Still think he'd be fun in a "4300 yard 44 TD 33 INT" way in a Mumme air raid. Frustrating with all the picks, but fun. Why did I not put two and two together that Ben Finley's brother was the short-time NFL backup Ryan?

That's pretty much it. Yeah, Akron's a tough job. No one's pretending it's easy. Joe isn't the type of coach that has any chance of thriving at this sort of tough job. Carney...just might be the type who can thrive at a Kent-type job. As an aside, how about a Chris Creighton at EMU (EMU being the actual type of job that many here think Akron is), who is 61-82 at a school whose last three coaches (and related interims) were 39-125. While his record isn't exactly stellar, if a guy can get EMU to five bowl games in 12 years...under current rules, between 1987 (their actual last bowl) and when Creighton arrived in 2014, they'd have had 3 or 4 bowl appearances (they had four years with an eligible record, but two FCS wins in 2011 would disqualify them without a waiver). If Eastern Michigan can go bowling about half the time...Akron should be able to reach that goal. But it will take work and the correct next hire when Joe leaves. That, traditionally, will be the tough part of this equation.

Your point isn't wrong. I just want to emphasize this item here. I don't know what the AD and the department did differently for the Kent game. But it worked. And I hope dearly they do a bunch more of it going into next year, because with actual Saturday games, they could actually get a real crowd for a couple of them (provided the team is at least competent, which was definitely hit and miss this year).

I don't know what Goodrich's plans are with football, but it doesn't feel that this would be. New logo wouldn't be awful, though, the A is incredibly uninspiring. Maybe Goodrich could also work on getting some Akron gear that's available for purchase anywhere that people might want to buy, too... The marketing and crowd they did get for the Wagon Wheel game last week gives me hope that they are finally starting to get serious about the program...and if they are going to at least even get a little closer on the budget BS...maybe you just ride it with everyone and see what happens. Guess I shouldn't be angry at that; it does make sense.

Yes, he has to leave on his own. It's just...kinda feels like he's going to do that.

This is also pretty fair. It's OK to be better at just being the offensive coordinator and keeping your head down.

This is probably the most correct take.

I totally understand this thought process. Obviously, I don't agree. But it's a very well-reasoned argument.

We keep Joe for six more years we might even see a bowl game. Nah, no thanks, I'm ready to try again.

Take the win. Hopefully it helps Joe get that OC job under James Franklin. Thanks for trying, but we've had enough.

Or perhaps the worst interception throw we've ever seen.

Save the best for last I guess

If it gets him to Virginia Tech to be the OC, let them keep talking.