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That is accurate. Maybe I don't agree about Bowden having to go if 2017 is as bad as 2016,but IMO I don't attribute the horrible season this year only to injuries..Certainly that was a significant contributor. But,MOST programs have injuries to key players throughout and don't necessarily fall off 'the deep end'. Offensively,the injury to Woodson, at whatever degree of seriousness it might have been was significant. He appeared to be a SERVICEABLE QB given the receiving talent he had to throw to. While he improved over last season,he still doesn't impress me as a QB who can carry a program himself. He has to have help. Bowden gave it to him on the receiving side but IMO didn't do much for the run game. That was sorely needed once the QB situation again became muddled. One of my concerns with this coaching staff is that except maybe for the first season,they have not really been able to recruit enough decent QB's to keep that position stabilized if someone doesn't perform or gets hurt. On top of that offensively,it seems they are not flexible enough to successfully adjust when players get hurt or don't perform. Again,the 'backups that Bowden recruited were not capable(He whiffed on Chapman). And,Goodman just wasn't prepared to be a QB. Never did see Hoyer did we? I believe at least some of the offensive issues this year fall back on the coaching staff. One positive,I thought under the circumstances the O-Line played pretty decently. Defensively,this team was a mess from the jump. Yes,it lost significant talent. But,its also obvious that recruiting has not been at the level necessary to avoid the huge drop offs we saw this season. At this point Bowden and Amato should have developed enough in reserve so that the 'next man up' performed more competently. I am also not convinced that Amato was able/willing to adjust sufficiently to put the talent he had in the best position to be successful. Finally,when we look at the teams the Zips beat this year,they were really weak. Marshall turned out to be bad. They beat Miami early,thankfully or that may have been different. They beat BSU which might have been their 'best' win. But they managed to lose to two of the MAC bottom feeders this year when a couple of wins would have kept them in it. The East was there for the taking. What happens next season. I have seen posters here call for Milwee to be fired. I have seen people discuss how good another freshman Kato Nelson is going to be at QB. Another QB with no experience taking control of the offense? There needs to be some rethink on recruiting objectives. And,there needs to be a rethink on how to adjust when that becomes necessary. Re-up those season tix!

Unlike me defending the Browns coaches and front office, as it's kind of hard to say definitively one way or the other not even through year 1 of a 4 year plan, (certainly beats past regimes that had no plans and just tried to super glue and rubber band a team together), Bowden has kind of been around long enough (5 years and 2nd longest tenured MAC coach) that I feel it is fair to make judgements on what he has and hasn't accomplished. 2012 - 1-11 (0-8) 2013 - 5-7 (4-4) 2014 - 5-7 (3-5) 2015 - 8-5 (5-3) 2016 - 5-7 (3-5) After 5 years our best season was finishing 7th in the MAC and we have made only 1 bowl game. IMO we HAVE to win the bare minimum of 7 regular season games or Bowden needs to go, no excuses. He's had plenty of time to filter out coach I's trash. EMU was just in as bad of shape as we were and Creighton has turned them around in 3 years.

https://m.facebook.com/greg.shook pictures from Thanks4giving all star game A good one of 6 Akron commits

smh. Its darn near 2017. How is there not some form of livestream for every D1 football/basketball game.

Well said. I hope coach Bowden can get this progrum on top.

Bless Jawon Chisholm. I was blessed to watch him step out of bounds for four years while he won something like six games. We we are blessed to have a coaching staff that holds a player out who wants to play, but showed over the last six weeks that his shoulder ranged between hobbled and unusable. And lastly, bless Marques Hayes and Marcus Whattley, former Zips, who are proud of their alma mater and sending UA some great kids for next season. Have a blessed Thanksgiving!

I agree that injuries suck but that's reality. The Zips have been very fortunate the last few years to dodge the injury bug that has bitten so many MAC squads. Injuries really hurt when your depth sucks. Depth sucks when recruiting isn't up to snuff.

Disagree. There is a difference. Counting down means time is controlled by game clock. Counting up allows for extra time at the Referee's discretion. It is NOT the same 45 minutes.