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An All-MAC player who decided to transfer here to not be a starter would be quite the surprise.........I'd bet a lot against it.

Chris' final stats: He got into two more games before the season ended: JT's final numbers: Brubaker

Yeah now I can make it!

Let's get a coach who is entertaining, and can get attention in a state where it is really hard to get out of the shadow of the 800 lb gorilla in Columbus. Deion Sanders is currently in FCS at Jackson State, but I bet he'd make the jump to FBS. No shortage of attention there, although the team's discipline issues probably wouldn't be fixed. I like the idea of skilled assistants, and you wouldn't even have to leave the state to get Marcus Freeman (Cincinnati's Defensive Coordinator). Clark Lea (Notre Dame DC) also stands out in my mind. If you want a HC who is a previous OC, then Tony Elliott (Clemson) is top. Former HCs I'd want to interview include Bob Stoops or Chris Peterson. Bob's Y-town connection could prove a strength, especially if Tressel will put in a good word for us.

If Akron was to cut the football program the time to have done it was before Infocision was built. I've ran the numbers many times here and don't fill like digging up those old posts, but between the guarantee games, MAC tv money, sponsorships, CFP money allocation, etc. the football program pretty much pays for itself on an operational standpoint. That said, I still find it absurd a 1-11 FBS coach still commands a 600k salary.

Ok, I did at Akron lol, maybe I misunderstood what your looking for. I thought you wanted an explanation of title nine & affect on the athletic program. Just out of curiosity if we didn’t have football how many programs get eliminated? Idk but if it was strictly financial there wouldn’t be any programs, the football program is the only one that can sustain them all. There is a lot in that statement and I’m not going on for days. I assume we all get it. All these points have been made throughout this topic and don’t need repeated but your question and answer gave the impression you know nothing about title 9 and affect on athletic programs. It really hurts a lot of schools. I hate stooping to your level but take a class on comprehension, I said to make the football program profitable. Didn’t say it was but it has potential, most of the other sports have no chance to sustain themselves & rely on the football team getting throttled in money games & the little ESPN contract to play mid week in November I was always taught when someone attacks a person personally they have no argument, try and make your point without the jab

Not necessarily. I have seen true leaders select people for their diversity of ideas, opinions, etc., and not because they will say "yes" to whatever the leader wants. I understand your concern, though. The UA Board of Trustees has rubber stamped most anything that the UA President brings them with seemingly little to no debate or consideration of their own. Group think is the Akron way! Btw, IMO coaches who surround themselves solely with assistants who have played for them do themselves a disservice.

I'd personally rather give Arth more time to grow and adjust as well as his players more time to gain experience and develop in lieu of settling for the hope of "lightning in a bottle". My thoughts may change as the season progresses however! I do agree this is not an attractive job at all, and we don't have the money to make anyone ignore the stink.

Walton won’t be a starter. This team will be versatile there’s a big line up I think we’ll see a little bit with Aziz and Freeman imagine trying to score in the paint against those 2. Castaneda will be our starting PG though I’m hearing Clarke will play less than he did last season.

We need a coach that can recruit. Period. Irons is a player. He can almost singlehandedly win football games. Dollard was a player. He could almost singlehandedly will football games. Mathison, while not at their level, is a player. After that...all our present players are essentially interchangeable. There's no other Arth-recruited talent on our roster that ANY other MAC program would want, let alone a P5 program. Yeah, you can see flashes of potential here and there from a DB or WR...but we are flat-out woefully short on talent. The proof: 0-4 MAC teams that lost to Duquesne curb-stomp us on our home field. You want linemen that are big, strong and agile. Our lines are small, slow and unathletic. Ditto the linebackers. It isn't will, or scheme, or conditioning that gets us pushed around the field. We're just smaller and less talented than all our opponents. Arth made the decision to build the program predominately with youth. It has hurt. Bowden had the same choice when he arrived, and liberally supplemented his classes with transfers. He once said (paraphrased) - "If we only recruit freshmen, we'll get killed and I'll just be recruiting the next coach's kids. AD's don't wait 5 years for you to win now-a-days." Can't argue with that. Transfers like Williams, Marcus, Davis, Coe and Natson were the types of impact P5 transfers we needed to start winning games at Akron. However, he also recruited NFL talent like Gilbert, Kyron Brown and Jatavis Brown out of high school. Maybe Council lands in the NFL too? I predicted 1 win when this season began. Irons' play made me hopeful we could possibly see two...but it's not going to happen. Lee Owens was a marginal coach (see him sitting at 2-2 at Ashland right now). But with a decaying off campus stadium and zero facilities he recruited the likes of Frye, Hixon, Blackburn, Payne, Hendry, Dwight Smith, Matt Cherry and many other solid, fun-to-watch players. Several landed in the NFL. Bowden once said - "We need to find a way to win at Akron." He also said - "Sometimes the local HS programs know you too well. Kids from Florida don't know Akron from Kent or BG, so that's where we need to recruit until we get better." It's true. I see zero value in making local recruiting a major emphasis right now. Of all the players I listed above as NFL caliber...how many were from Akron? Hendry was from North Canton. That's it. There is a way to win at Akron. It starts with identifying and recruiting talent. Period. Then lather, rinse, and repeat. There's no other option.

Mountaineers draw in MAC opener against Akron | Men's Soccer | thedaonline.com Methinks Zips will meet Mountaineers again this season.