kreed5120

I think watch parties for NCAA tournament, bowl games, or MAC championship games Akron makes would be terrific ideas. If they can rent it out to bring in some side money by hosting concerts, video game tournaments, or whatever I'm fine with that too. They either haven't tried renting it out or there just hasn't been a demand for it.

I don't watch all 41 games, not even close to that many. I also can say I don't watch the Food Network. I'd probably actually watch more games if there were fewer as I'd view it more as appointment TV. I agree there was a point in the past where there were too few bowl games. I just feel there has been an over correction and making a bowl game has lost a lot of its value. A 5-7 team making the postseason is by no means a decent season. They reward mediocrity and in some cases less. What I'd like is up the win requirement from 6 to 7 and reduce the number of games to ~30. Under said scenario that Zips team would have still made a bowl game,. They just wouldn't have been playing Utah State. Edit: Perhaps as a fan I view things differently from you all. I would just take winning the MAC or even MAC East over winning a bowl game.

Nice of you to try to insinuate what I'm thinking... Nothing you said has anything to do with what I'm saying. I stated Utah State was a 6-7 team because that's indeed what they finished the season being. Math can be hard but if a team enters a game 6-6 and loses, they are now 6-7. Had they beat us I'd say we lost to a 7-6 team. My gripe with the bowl system is completely unrelated to Zips football. Once upon a time making a bowl was a great reward. Now making a bowl game should be bare minimum expectation as over 60% of teams make bowls. We literally have 5-7 teams making bowl games these days. I complain about the NBA playoff system too for the same reason, its too inclusive. At the end of the day competing and winning in the MAC is more important to me than beating some random 6-6 (as you put it) non P5 team in some obscure bowl. I'll take beating the Toledo's and Western Michigan's any day of the week over beating Utah State. For the record I did enjoy beating Utah State. I just enjoyed beating WMU more.

Okay, that one slipped my mind. I agree that win was better.

In my eyes this was our best win under Bowden. We beat a 6-7 Utah State team in a glorified exhibition. This WMU team is a much better team in my eyes and puts us in a place to actually contend for a MAC Championship.

We were starring at a 7-8 win season last year before we lost to Buffalo and Bowling Green. If this game taught us anything lets not circle wins and losses until the games are played. Upsetting a quality team like WMU doesn't mean a whole lot if we turn around and lose to a terrible team like Kent later in the season. Lets just take it one game at a time.

I missed the game as I had plans. Looking at the box score I see we were out gained nearly 2 to 1, were the more penalized team, and allowed WMU to convert a high % of their 3rd and 4th downs. Despite all this we still managed to find a way to win on the road against a pretty good team. Bravo! I need to find a replay somewhere. Go Zips!

I've already stated if we had a product good enough to watch, more people would show up. IDK who you're arguing with?

Based off the camera quality I'd guess this commercial was made before I was born so nope I don't remember.

I want the 20 minutes back that I spent reading this.

The biggest surprise is probably Buffalo. Even in their losses they were very competitive. Its early but teams are performing a bit as expected.

Apples to oranges comparison. Big schools don't plow all their resources into men's soccer like they do football and to a lesser extent men's basketball.Our football program will NEVER compete for national titles.

The JAR is always a little more packed when the Zips are receiving AP votes and national recognition compared to when it isn't. The program never did enough in March to get the community to buy-in. Consistently being a 9-11 win football team won't fill Infocision, which was built a little too big IMO, but getting to a real 15k attendance average would totally be feasible.

IDK why I bother going to this thread. Its always the same old same old. Have a product worth watching and people will show up.

Yes, and they are #17 in the nation in rushing yards facing an Akron team that hasn't shown the ability to stop the run. I wouldn't count on the Zips stuffing their running game. WMU IMO is just flat out the better team. Luckily for us the better team doesn't always win. The great equalizer is turnovers where I feel Akron needs to be +2-3 to be in a position to win this late.The fact you mention WMU doesn't turn the ball over much only decreases Akron's chances of winning.

I'm not buying the Zips being able to slow down the WMU ground game. The Zips IMO will need to find ways of creating turnovers to have any chance of stealing this game.

Attendance requirement is irrelevant TBH. Averaging 15k fans at the ticket prices Akron charges isn't some magical break even number in terms of revenue meeting expenses. Its already well documented that schools that don't meet the 15k fans fudge the numbers so that's no barrier whatsoever. The barrier is whether schools feel the deficit a program runs will be offset by advertising, alumni relations, college atmosphere, etc. that college athletics brings to the University.

Its exactly how it works. The deterrent isn't the attendance requirements, its the fact that a poorly supported program will lose schools several million dollars.

Bowl games actually lose us money. I'm still all for bowl games but don't be mistaken thinking they bring us closer to the black.

Trying to get a little too fancy there. With the ball at the 1 and a timeout left they would have had enough time to run 3, maybe 4, straight QB sneaks. I'd take my odds with that.

Ticket sales the 1st 2 games were padded. Those tickets the University buys aren't really hurting them financially. They are both the payor and payee in said scenario. It would be like if I decided to change my oil and changed myself $25 dollars to do it. I still own that $25 but it was just moved to another account. Would it be great to have a football program that financially supported itself? Certainly, but at only $60 for season tickets and $15 for single game, the University would need to average much more than 15k per game to break even on football. That attendance is an arbitrary number provided my NCAA. The real number that matters is how much external revenue the program generates less the cost of running the program.

Clueless newcomer. We might be able to hit 10k before the University and whatever sponsors buy tickets to meet NCAA guidelines.

The wager was on which team will finish with more wins. Hilltopper and I had WMU. You, @LZIp, and @blue & gold (I don't know why it won't let me tag you) had Akron.

I'm not one to really care for uniforms and such, but I will admit we have some of the best uniforms in all of college football.