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I actually didn't think the Zips played that bad of defense when they were able to get set defensively. BGSU settled for and connected on a lot of 10-15 foot midrange jumpers. Some highly questionable fouls in the 1st half on Big Dog and Kwan impacted how aggressive either could play defensively, especially since Hughes was pretty much out. Certainly there is still room for improvement. I'm going to guess, or at least hope, that the slow start had something to do with the 12 or so days they had off. We turned the ball over 16-17 times and 5 out of our 1st 7 possessions were turnovers.

Then if you want to use that as a metric then you have to concede at the very least the OSU team that went onto win the national championship deserved to be there. You refuse to do that. I feel the committee has gone 12/12 as you can't predict how a game that hasn't been played yet will play out. You can only go off of what each team has done up to the selection point. You haven't disputed any of the other teams that have made It besides the 2 Buckeye teams and since your all important hindsight metric shows that the 2014-2015 Buckeyes were deserving, that means the committee is 11/12. Looks like they are doing a pretty good job. That's what I've been arguing.

We really need to cut back on our turnovers. I believe our first 5 possessions consisted of 4 turnovers to 1 shot attempt.

We really need to cut back on our turnovers. I believe our first 5 possessions consisted of 4 turnovers to 1 shot attempt.

I went to ESPN to check out other MAC scores at the start of half-time. It was accurate. Might want to consider using that.

37-35 at the half. 3 of the 4 fouls on Big Dog and Kwan IMO weren't fouls. That foul on Kwan when the rebounder fell into him was atrocious.

How OSU performed in the playoff is irrelevant as that data point wasn't available to the selection committee at the time of the selection. I do find it funny you use OSU terrible performance as justification for why they shouldn't have been picked this year, but disregard them winning it in 2015 as justification for them being selected that year. You can't have it both ways. I've posted large paragraphs on many different topics if you want to go back through my post history you can see that for yourself. I've also seen you belittle OSU more times than I can count and this topic I'm fairly certain is the only time I can ever remember responding to your criticism. I've seen you, Buckzip and others go at it, but I've pretty much stayed out of it. I consider myself to be an objective fan, or at least I try to be. If in some parallel universe Kent State had a season where they deserved to be in CFP or be an at-large team in March Madness, I'd make my opinion known. If there is a year where Akron does well enough to be in the conversation for CFP or an at-large for March Madness but their resume comes up a tad short IMO, I'd state that opinion as well. I do think Akron got hosed having to play a road game at OSU for the NIT, but that is an entirely different issue.

I actually think the Minnesota job is a pretty attractive opening. Its a program that actually has some talent, plays in a weak division, is a large state school in a decently populated state that features 1 FBS team, and has excellent facilities. They are certainly better than Iowa State, Kansas, Purdue, Cincy, and have a much higher ceiling than a Houston. The right coach can turn them around just like Dantonio turned around MSU.

Appreciate the heads up. I'd give you a like, but I'm out of them today.

Thanks! I actually bought a fire stick and a friend is loading it for me. Knew I'd have access to televised games. Wasn't aware I'd have access to ESPN3.

No, I'm defending the selection committee's selections as I have agreed with them. You have solely been targeting 1 school, which is why I have defended it. I'm on record as saying an 11-1 OSU from the 2015-2016 college football season wasn't 1 of the 4 most deserving and the committee made the right decision to leave them out. What I have found to be consistent is your inability to be objective when it comes to anything OSU related. If I actually cared enough I could go back through your posts on this forum and find at least 50 posts of you ragging on OSU in just the last year alone. You've probably made reference to an ancient Cardale Jones tweet 10-20 times alone. OSU could go 14-1 and lose in the national championship game and you will come up with some tin foil hat excuse for why they shouldn't have been there. Edit: Actually even worse OSU had a season where they DID go 14-1 and won the national championship and you are still arguing they weren't one of the 4 best teams therefore shouldn't have been in the playoffs. Do you honestly believe yourself or are you just trolling?

Of course Akron waits until after I completely cut my cable, therefore have no access to ESPN3, before moving away from those online streams.

One of these guys might develop into being a pro bowler, but personally I feel this is a pretty weak QB class with no clear cut stud at the top. For any of these guys to succeed I feel they need to be put in a position where they are surrounded by talent and aren't asked to carry the offensive load at a young age. As a Browns fan I'd rather just see them take the best play available with their 6 top 100 picks. Worry about a QB, if it is still a need, the following year when they hopefully have an improved offensive line and some of their young playmakers have developed. The talent pool should hopefully be better than too.

Hopefully we can pull a decent crowd tonight with it being the start of MAC play and Dambrot being in a position to set the Zips all-time wins mark.

The committee's objective is to put the 4 most deserving teams into the playoffs, I feel it is has done that even though you might not think it has. The committee has never come out and said that only conference champs can make it or that early season losses don't matter. Many things go into their decision. The prior 2 years the 4 most deserving teams were the 4 conference champs that made it. This year a non conference declared champ was declared more deserving than 2 other conference champs. An opinion that the vast majority of fans and experts agreed with. Even if we went off of computer numbers and took the human element out of it, OSU would have been declared more deserving than Penn State. That's a point that you have still failed to recognize. We are in year 3 of the selection committee. That's an extremely small sample size. Of course new situations will present themselves.

I actually have agreed with all 12 teams to date that the selection committee has picked. Of course different people weigh certain criteria differently. A 4 team playoff will never achieve what you are hoping that it would. Houston was probably the only G5 team that had any chance of making the playoffs this year and they would have had to run the table and get a lot of help to do it. An 8 team playoff is what it would probably take to open the door up to a WMU. I'd actually support an 8 team playoff, but nothing more than that.

It's pretty obvious this is going to go back and forth. The real divide is one side feels the entire season should matter while the other side feels only conference play should matter. Neither side will change the other sides opinion. I will say I didn't hear anyone claim the system was rigged last year when an 11-1 OSU team was left out of the playoffs... I actually agree with the committee decision for OSU to not be selected last year, but last year there were 4 more deserving teams. This year there weren't. Edit: Can someone clarify so I can understand? Is the playoff committee only rigged in years in which OSU is admitted in, but it's not rigged in years they are left out? I ask because the last 3 years OSU has gone 12-1, 11-1, and 11-1 in the regular season, but according to you guys that should equate to 0 playoff appearances.

And what about Washington who was the team Penn State was actually competing with for that 4th spot?

Those sanctions prevented them from being bowl eligible for 2 years and with the mass exit of transfers plus scholarship penalties they are just now getting back to what they were. The previous 2 seasons when they were permitted to going back to bowls their records were 7-6, and 7-6. No 7-6 team is going to get picked for prominent bowl games. Penn State is also the team that lost TWO games. All the teams ahead of them are P5 teams that lost 1 or fewer games. Had Penn State lost 1 fewer game they'd have made the playoffs simple as that. I'm going to provide you a groundbreaking fact. The regular season consists of TWELVE games (shocking I know) with a potential 13th game for a conference championship. It is not a 9 week season or whatever timeframe you want to make up to fit your agenda. The fact Penn State was the highest rated 2 loss team shows the committee was high on them.

Are you serious? Penn State is a huge name in the college football world. Certainly bigger than that of Clemson and Washington. OSU like it or not was always going to get in because their resume clearly showed they deserved it. If Penn State jumped any of the 1 loss teams it would have been Washington as they played a very weak schedule and were the 4th seed.

What I feel is so great is they keep saying OSU only got in because of its name failing to realize OSU had the 3 seed. Penn State, unlike 4th seeded Washington, is a legit blue blood. They would have attracted more eyeballs and money than Washington. There is no disputing that fact.

The vast majority of teams had 2 or more losses by the time OSU lost their 1st game and the ones that only had 1 loss didn't have wins as good as Wisconsin or Oklahoma. Saturdays results are irrelevant. That data point wasn't available to the selection committee at the time of selection as the event hadn't occurred yet. As I've said before even the old BCS rankings had OSU at #2 at the end of the season. It wasn't just the selection committee high on them, but pretty much every reputable computer poll as well.

You can't use that kind of logic here. You also forgot to mention conference schedules aren't balanced. OSU crossover games that went into their 8-1 division record featured Wisconsin, Nebraska, and Northwesten. Penn State got doormat Purdue, Iowa, and Minnesota.

It was only a 5 point game up until the final minute when Creighton started to foul. Nova was the better team, but Creighton still looked pretty good.