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I wasn't responding to you. My response was to Balsy. I do think it is no coincidence however that his 2 best seasons at Auburn were his 1st 2 years when he was coaching some other coaches recruits. Edit: Like I've said I'd love for Bowden to prove me wrong and hopefully he will. I just have my doubts.

If you want to give Terry Bowden a pass, which is fair, for year 1 at Akron then you must also acknowledge that Bowden benefited year 1 at Auburn (the year he won SEC COY) from the talent that was left there for him by the previous coach. His success at Auburn must be why he was fired midway through his 6th season. I don't think he is a terrible coach, but also don't think he would get the notoriety he does if not for his last name. If Akron actually starts to contend in the MAC I'll be the 1st to apologize and admit that I was wrong. In fact Terry please prove me wrong. The MAC isn't like the B1G where the odds are so heavily stacked against a Maryland or Rutgers that they really have no chance of competing. A great coach can come in and build a contender in a few years. Fleck who you so vehemently hate turned an 1-11 team to a 13-1 team in a matter of 3 seasons.

We can agree to disagree Captain. Tommy and Terry have been head coach for a combined 23 seasons (FBS) and have 1 conference championship to show for it. There is certainly no arguing the fact without Bobby's success at FSU the Bowden family wouldn't be treated like college football royalty.

I think I'll pass. I actually expect us to cover this game assuming the line stays at -3. We are due for a quality shooting night and we seem to struggle against teams with size, which CMU doesn't have. CMU seems to struggle against size, which is something we do have depending on what lineup we roll out. I don't feel they are capable of beating us in a halfcourt game and that is what I think we will make it.

Relevant Edit: I actually expect us to be a 2-3 point favorite.

Are you trying to tell me they haven't used their dads legacy to bolster their career? In fact I've heard Terry say he uses the Bowden name to gain a footing in Florida recruiting. I wonder why the Bowden name is so big in that state? Can you please answer that for me?

You forgot the part where his kids road his coattail to achieve mild success themselves.

I'd almost have to assume they'd bring the 3 man to double team as Big Dog would have no trouble passing out of a double team against a 5'9 guard, which could open up Ivey cutting to the basket. WMU does have some size on their bench in the form of 6'11 Luke Meyer and 6'10 Darohn Scott, however, forcing them to sit 1 or both of their starting post players to match our size plays into our favor.

What amazes me is I believe Fleck went from making $800k to making $3.5M and people are questions his integrity. What person wouldn't leave their current job, no matter how much they loved it, if someone offered to ~4.5X their salary.

They are just really undersized and not just with their 2 5'9 guards. Their top 2 minute earners in the post come in at 6'6 and 6'8. They need their shots to be falling in order to stay competitive.

I feel the marginal cost the school spends to go to a bowl game is worth it, particularly if you land in a higher profile bowl like WMU did this year. A school like Akron couldn't afford 4 hours worth of commercials on ESPN. The real cost is what schools spend on stadiums, athlete villages, IPF, coaches, etc to be in a position to go to a bowl in the 1st place. Those are the areas that schools bleed money.

You mean Bowden had success with someone elses recruits while Miles put 11+ seasons in at LSU with LSU never finishing with fewer than 8 wins during his tenure? I think that is the consistent success you talked about wanting to get out of Akron. Not the 3 5-7 seasons and 1 6th place MAC finish we received that resulted in an 8-5 record. Age is Miles biggest deterrant. There really isn't a market out there for 63 year old coaches. Still doesn't change the fact he is a much more accomplished and a far better coach than Bowden.

Are you really trying to compare someone that had a proven track record of success in the toughest conference in America to Rob Ianello who was a WR coach before becoming Akron's head coach? WMU has a 13-1 season and an access bowl appearance to show for it. I'd trade 10 Potato Bowl trophies for that. Minnesota might have taken their coach, but nobody can take away the excitement their fan base had this season. I'd throw $100 down that Akron will never make an Access Bowl appearance with Bowden as our coach. Anyone care to accept that wager?

He's had 1 winning season (a year in which we still finished 6th in the MAC) compared to 4 losing ones so I don't get why people around here want to label him as a Patron Saint. The MAC East was the worst I can ever remember it being and we still couldn't make it to 6 wins. Miles I feel is one of the best recruiters in the game. We saw what Fleck achieved this season at WMU by having the MAC's #1 recruiting class 3 years in a row.

No, their stadium capacity is 30,200 and 26,146 was the announced attendance for that game.

If it was as easy as swapping out Bowden for Miles, I'd do it in a second. Like others said we don't don't have the money to buy out Bowden and even if we did have a vacancy, I'd venture to guess we'd have to pay Miles significantly more than what we are paying Bowden.

I honestly didn't see a matchup problem. We held WMU to under 60 points playing some great D that final ~10 minutes. Outside of Antino forcing a few shots, I thought we mostly got quality looks. Ivey air balled a 3 with the nearest defender 7-8 feet away. Noah couldn't have possibly been anymore open on 2-3 of the ones he missed. Some nights they just don't fall. We lost to an equally as bad Miami team last year by 13 points on a night we couldn't buy a shot. We should be thankful we had our poor shooting night against a team we could manage to overcome instead of someone that would make us pay for it. We don't normally have bad shooting nights at home, but it was bound to happen at some point.

Akron shot under 25% from 3 and still escaped with the win. Finding ways to win when you're having a poor shooting night is what good teams do.

What I saw was we were 3/14 from 3 on mostly good looks and had quite a few turnovers and we are still tied. Still doesn't change the fact that I feel this team has a really high ceiling. It just hasn't reached it's full potential. Hopefully its there come March.

This is like the 3rd email I've received about it. The 1st one thanked me for being a STH and told me as a "gift" I'd be getting this mug that I could pick up at the Marshall game. Since then I've received 2 more emails pushing the date back.

Meanwhile me waiting for my Zips mug that I was initially promised to get at the Marshall game.

Not saying Fleck isn't flamboyant because he is, but I feel it is natural in college athletics for the coach to be the face of the organization. Dambrot defects attention as much as any coach I know, but I'd still label him the face of Zips basketball. In a world where players only stay 3-4 years (or in the case of basketball potentially as little as 1) and start maybe 2 of those years, it is easy to see why that's the case.

If someone offers you 3 1st rounders or 2 1st rounders and a 2nd for what amounts to a DE, I don't see how you don't take it. I don't see any team offering that unless a QB emerges from this class that they are high on. It's also why I think we'll stay at #1 unless some team offers us a deal we can't refuse. The Eagles pick we'll probably trade.

Please view my earlier post.

Sign me up for that 3* DT from Cleveland. Attracting 3* players in our own backyard is what we need to start doing if we ever hope to take that next step.