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Toledo and Kent played tough schedules...but Toledos win streak is a mirage. So many of those wins are against directionals. Kent had some late bad late season losses. That being said, one reason I'm not too stressed is that the Zips weren't at large worthy. Toledo and Kent may be but they won't get it. I think Kent has the higher kenpom rating. They aren't even talked about and Toledo is marked for a 13th seed. Got to be 9 or 10 level.

Zero.

Trust me...i will criticize as warranted. but, he's certainly had some real duds from the transfer portal. nice personality players aren't always going to make it unfortunately. but I think this is topic for Clark's next thread. No whining here. No entitlement.

it's tough in the MAC. Same final 4 as last year. I would disagree that Groce was out-coached by Senderoff. Senderoff had the guys this year. The problem he has now is that Toledo also has the missing pieces that Akron needed this year.

My guess if the feds pursue this, the State prosecutors will leave him alone. There's nothing to gain by going after him twice for essentially the same crime.

why don't you give it a rest until say...tomorrow.

Of all the MAC tournament losses over the years, this one probably hurt the least. Same final four as last year. I guess we will now wait and see what players have a conversation with God and ask us to respect their decision.

Tough to repeat. I will take joy in that either PCCC or Toledo will be bawling their eyes out tomorrow night. Don't see either of them sitting on any bubbles. they are the best two teams this year.

Amen. Even if you are a decent donor you get relegated to cheap seats...but they have a system they have to use which in a way is fair. The ticket offerings were limited on seat geek this year. but i noticed yesterday you can sort of sit wherever you want.

Groce is such a fan of Hankerson.

Brian Walsh makes one shot in 2012 where would Groce be today? That's every game.

Coach Groce has met expectations with the team he has. If he and this team can win two more, it wouldn't be a miracle but would certainly be surprising considering the talent they will be up against. Clarke and Tribble need to get to the line or make a few buckets.

Words you will never here the Brimfield Tech coach utter: "Obviously I thought we did a lot of good things tonight," Zips coach John Groce told reporters in Cleveland. "I thought it was a reflection of our preparation. These guys are just such a special group. We took two days off after Friday's game [against Kent State] and they came back and you could just look in their eyes and tell their care factor was high."

You just know that's how it's going to turn out.

What an awful afternoon of basketball.

A 20 win legend. When he left, the program was stagnant. Wasn't going to get better. Hopefully, this thread will down and move down the que and not be resurrected many more times.

Ha. Just said that to someone. Toledo hasn't been challenged in a while.

Taking page out of Zips play book from 2022.

Zips fans need to get here and give NIU a fan base.

Fun MAC tourney memory. Then ran into Groce in the finals. What a crowd

Like Groce praising Mike Huger.

Indeed. Time to get this show on the road. Zips are certainly the underdogs.

Buffalo had two chances to win and missed both times. Ugh.

buffalo hanging with toledo women ... for now. 42-40at half. Buffalo 61% from 3.

two players on mac first team! As for Toledo, all the accolades and the win streak...all will come crashing down around them.