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Well if he is doing a great job then we have horrible talent on the OL. But I concede that may be the case. I also feel we need to upgrade at running back, but they weren't the reason our run game failed this year. There was no blocking for them to have a place to run. That was blatantly clear as you sat in the stands and watched our lineman get pushed back.

I think it further illustrates that Keith is a good coach who has turned around the Dukes. It also says he is a good coach who did not want to be at Akron. I'm OK with that because I don't want anyone who doesn't want to be here. Good luck at Duquesne. I like the coach we now have.

I would like to get excited about this area of the team too. It seems we have better talent coming in. But I am not sold that we have the best OL coach who can develop that talent. Last year and the year before we had a veteran OL and the results were poor. We never learned to run block and our pass blocking went downhill when we were in obvious passing situations against good, not great teams. You expect players to get better during the course of the season. Both years we got worse. I know our coach is the youngest on the team but he has to produce. Bowden seems to support his coaches no matter what. To improve the team, and the coaching staff, he has to make hard, but necessary changes. The three areas that are glaring are offensive line, offensive coordinator and special teams. All coaches should be gone. We will be better because the talent is improving. Coaching has to improve too and then we will grow even faster.

Lil, can I help you?

Well said. I wish Keith well except whenever we play. How he left was not the right way, but he's gone and I believe we are better off for it. Still I appreciate all he did for us while here. He accomplished more than anyone thought could be done at our university.

I'm ready to marry her too!

I"ve always said that Milwee can shut down our O better than any DC.

I wish. But stranger things have happened. Keep the positive Thoughts coming. We need them and it can happen.

Creative playacting is all on Milwee. Executing those plays is all on the players. Both have had period of poor performance.

Are you sure you are much better looking? Your son sets a pretty high standard. Glad your family is on board with our Zip family. Your son has great potential here. We have to play better football, but we have come so far that sometimes we lose sight of the growth we've made and will continue. Count on it. Now if you want to see a really good looking man you need to get my picture

Some observations on our progrum, not necessarily the game: TB earned an extension of at least 2, and probably 3, years. Wilson wants stability and TB gives him that. TB, to his credit, has recruited better than ever and we now have youth and depth. All due to him. We are not playing good football. We are winning, but I doubt we have the fundamentals to beat the really good teams like Toledo. Milwee is still, and has been, a substandard OC. Our special teams suck and they won't get much better until TB gets them a new coach. I can't figure out our OL. I feel they are inferior. Is it talent or is it coaching or is it a combination of the two? TB does not coach, he manages the team. He delegates to his OC, DC and special teams coach. That is not a value judgement. It is just a statement of fact. If he can win that way it tickles me plum to death. Kato is clearly our QB. I have not been a TB supporter, but I very much respect the man because he made this hard decision which told TW that you must put the team first and TW's actions did not do that. Toledo will probably beat the hell out of us in Detroit. I will be taking 10 people there to support the Zips despite this. Miracles do happen. Recruiting and our future look very good. Good Lord! I never get tired of beating Kent. Well done Zips. The better team won. 7-5 feels real good. Find a way to win in Detroit.

I do too. I'd like to see a former Zip ace rebuild our program.

LZ, I do go to the games. In fact it is harder for me than most Zip fans because I live in Columbus. I've also been to BG and Toledo for away games. Like all Zip fans on this board I want higher attendance and I do my part.

Better be ready to laugh a lot then. No way do we get 15K. At best 10K will show up. Attendance will be reported to be higher but actual fans in the stands will be below 10K.

If I were king I would give him two more years. Those two coupled with the one he has left should reduce recruits concern over how long he will be here. I said reduce and not eliminate because we rewinding despite the coaching, not because of it. We win now because the staff has been getting better at recruiting and it is starting to show in both performance and depth. Still we have huge problems with special teams, our OL is poor, Milwee is questionable and discipline is an issue. All that being said, if Williams gives TB three additional years I won't lose sleep over it. One game doesn't make a season, but I've got to hand it to TB, he won a big one last night. Congratulations and destroy Kent.

Thank you. incredible pics.

Sometimes things do not make sense but your emotions don't care. I went to our game with Toledo and later watched OU vs Toledo. I could not believe how much better OU was than Toledo, who I was in awe of. But they were. If both teams tonight play up to their potential, we get beat. I think Ohio has more quality than this board gives them. But you never know until the game is played so use those emotions to bring us a W.

Ohio is very strong this year and we aren't. I see little chance of us winning this game regardless of who our QB is. My whole feeling is that they are a better team. They have better talent and are better coached. i want us to win, but i don't see it happening. To me those of us who feel we are going to win are basing their prediction on emotion and not fact. Over time and over the course of a battle emotion rarely beats talent. Please prove me wrong Zips, altho I won't lose any sleep over this coaching staff being fired.

Skip, I rarely disagree with you, but I do now. Ohio State lost two starting QB's while winning a national championship. That's the level of team play that we should aspire to.

If our team can't find a way to win with the starting QB suspended then we don't have a team period. No one person makes a team a winner. There's no "moral police" here unless you feel the coaches are because they are the ones who suspended him. I said anyone who puts the team second doesn't deserve to be on the team. The coaches seem to agree. We are a losing program, see our past records. Saying we need one person to turn it around only points to a desperate situation and, yes, a bad culture. With a bad culture you will never play good football, which we haven't since last year's Marshall game.

I have a contrary opinion. I agree that the coaches feel Woody is our best QB. But Woody did something, although unstated, that probably put the best interests of the team as an afterthought. If that is the decision of a senior 3 year starter then to me he is no longer our best QB and Kato should get the nod from here on out. For once forget about what we need this week or the last few games and start making decisions that will elevate our culture and the performance of Akron football for years to come. Stop acting like we are desperate for a savior at QB. Send the message no man is above the team. Do that and the team will find a way to win. Next man up. Our team needs discipline and unfortunately Bowden does not demand it. It's time that changes, even if he is on the way out. We deserve better.

" Our best back went down they both are from the same town !! Sands and Kato in the backfield ??‍♂️? , our WR need to stop watching the show and get open it's that simple I'm not a daddy ball dude I speak the real I trained my son he's past first I made him that way his head stays up he reads the defense and takes what's given his mechanics are the best in #CFB hell even some #NFL QBs our OC needs to open his mind and playbook this kid can do #ANYTHING WITH THAT ?Defense or Offense he's a Winner #GodsGotHisFeet? !!! We will soon see I'm sending #Help (.) he needs some WRs that wanna go to the next level ??‍♂️ but as far as QB give him protection he'll pick the #1 NFL team apart the #MAC is super slow fresh off a knee surgery I say we win more than the #MAC next year we build A defense Get some more skills to compete we Got ourselves some #Ring this ? ain't new to my son it's called ? it don't change we do .... and we did #Win if he starts next week and has all the time to get that #Chemistry so we can catch some damn balls ??‍♂️ 2 drop TDs and a missed FG #Mistakes that can be fixed so to me we didn't get the #Victory but we definitely #Won because now the world knows who's on the #Bench ?" This is God-awful diarrhea of a delusional dad. Keep him away from his son, our team and the lockerroom. Parents screw up their kids more than any coach ever does. I am not a Bowden fan, but I hope Terry keeps this guy away from the team. We've got enough problems w/o helicopter parents making it worse.

Mods, it's about time you filtered this crap out. This is a Zip sports forum. The other crap needs to be handled via PM's. Help us out here. Your opinion regarding Zip sports is welcome. Do the venting of other opinions away from this medium. Too many egos are on display lately.

Took it too. It will be interesting to see the results. Thanks Zach.

Very good points. However we do it the OL must improve its run blocking to win more games. If these starting five can run block then our coaching has got to find a way to unleash their potential. So far we have under-performed to the point of being pathetic. If the linemen have any pride then the coaches have got to let them show what they can do. I believe they can do much. much better.