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Thanx, that'll come in handy...

It's just incredible how year after year, Caleb keeps the talent coming in.

Dude, you need to lay off and find a life. Seriously, this man crush you have on me, its not healthy.

If you attract 4 new students and make them buy a bunch of books they don't need, you made up your cost right there...

Here's my impressions of you. You seem to be highly educated, and intelligent. Although some characteristics (like spelling and tact) are missing. Never mind the fact that sarcasm blows right over your head and out the window. You may have an important position with the U. From your posts, I gather you are in Accounting or Political Economics. Something prudish. Not Law though. Wrong set of debate skills for Law. On the lighter side I picture a small man with gray/white hair, bad comb-over, Clark K.E.N.T. glasses, black high-water pants, white dress shirt complete with pocket protector, ZNO.org on one browser, thesaurus.com on another. Instant Messenger open but there are no friends. Bottle of Maalox and half-empty bag of taste-free rice cakes on the desk. Am I close?

And your pretending that your retorts arn't filled with insults are even more priceless. Thank you as well, ass hole! If my pointing out your every back and forth waivering, and every response you ignored as insults, you have very very thin skin. I'd call you a sore loser but that might completely ruin your psyche... Or if I compared you to the nerd on the playground who answers everything you say with "I know you are but what am I?" Same elementary mentality. You might even resort to FOUR letter words. Then we'd ALL be impressed!!!! Being called "ass hole" by you is a compliment.

Sounds like a Phil Savage reply.

I may restart my dynasty, as from what I understand the Info will be in the game this year. Actually I have Zips artwork for Madden 08 on PC, along with other schools. I may switch over to that as it seems easier to get around in, has AutoPass, and it's a heck of a lot easier to enter player's names.

And for the record, I don't hate GP. Don't always agree with him, but certainly don't hate him. I have a lot of respect for his debate abilities. For the most part.

Thanks Jake, I needed a good laugh this week. Someone who can't make a point without throwing an insult calling someone else "juvenile" is priceless.

I hope you don't have anything to do with the University of Akron because I don't want to be associated with someone who has to resort to name calling to get his point across, and then lying when called out on it. You have written post after post criticizing Akron's campus, how beautiful Can't's is, and how we should bow down and ask for forgiveness to the bronze squirrel for ever criticizing it. Then you come back and say you never said anything about Akron, that it's the best urban campus in the nation. Then in the next post you rip it apart again. So not only are you childish, you're also a liar. And you call me juvenile. And, one more time, Polsky is not part of the main campus. Here's a shocker, Wayne College isn't either. Because Wayne's building doesn't fit with the buildings on main campus means Akron shouldn't own it, by your way of thinking. It's a different setting, genius. Definition of "Landmark" In modern usage, a landmark includes anything that is easily recognizable, such as a monument, building, or other structure. In American English it is the main term used to designate places that might be of interest to tourists due to notable physical features or historical significance. It's easily recognizable by anyone who knows Akron from their left hand, and it has historical significance as a major retail store for almost a century. Again, if you don't know crap about Akron, have no fond memories of Polsky's, then it doesn't have any historical significance to you. You. Not a vast number of Akron area natives. You. And to tell you the truth, we couldn't care less what you think. Debating whether Akron needs a downtown presence, a "community college", an inner city regional campus, just doesn't sound like fun. I've had enough name calling and story changing for one thread. Just take your lies and your failed attempts at insults and go back to Can't State or whatever rock you crawled out from under.

Coaches use stats and probabilities CONSTANTLY during a game to make decisions. They just don't know it. Third and 8. What's the probability our running game can get us eight yards? What's the probability our passing game can get is eight yards? Who is our better 3rd down back? Which receiver is the better possession-type receiver? Who do we want him matched up with in the secondary? What are the completion percentages to the right, midfield, left? Player evaluations, they look at 40 yard times, 60 yard times, vertical jump, broad jump, 3 cone time, bench press. They've been looking at school grades and IQ since Paul Brown started using them. With quarterbacks, they look at release times, arm strength, accuracy. All numbers. So Coach Bill had a numbers geek in the background crunching out numbers to help make those decisions. Not a bad idea if you ask me. Maybe it was that dork who finally convinced him that running Metcalf up the middle 50 times for 60 total yards wasn't working... Fear of stats doesn't make them go away...

I think it's a great way to prevent May Day from ever happenning again. Seriously, it looks like a great event for the traditional student, to celebrate the end of the school year. A lot better than burning furniture (and houses) and rolling police cars. If I could have stuck around I would have. But I saw enough softball to last me a lifetime (has BGSU ever HEARD of simple fundamentals?). The baseball game was still 2 hours away. And I spent enough idle time on that campus this year... It looks like a really fun event, for the current traditional student. But there's nothing there any time of the year to bring back alimni, to bring in the non-traditional student, and their family, the commuter student.

I usually don't either. But some days you just deal with one too many ignorant people...

But if you ask anybody in statistics, they will admit that you can work the statistics to say anything you want them to.

It'll never happen. Because then the BCS would have to justify all the political crap it does...

How long before LeBron injures his elbow and ruins the whole championship run. I bet the Indians lose 150 games this year. Oh woe is us!!!

"Are you delusional and paranoid or are you just an immature, antagonistic troll?" "one creepy scank" "lazy fat asses" "an escapee from a local mental institution" "What a frigging BAFOON!" "The Center for Counseling (which by the way, a few on here desperately need to visit)" "like the little brat you are" Are you still in the third grade? Because that's the latest in life that one thinks another is intelligent for using such debate tactics. "I am by far the most knowledgeable of the UA campus. You are obviously ignorant of that as well." Chest thumping too, I'm impressed!!! We've moved up to 5th grade now. Maybe you are knowledgeable, but your insults and put downs just give the impression that you're really childish... "Oh come on, I'm as big a rival against K.E.N.T. as much as the next guy, but you've got to be kidding when you put down their beautiful campus. They have a great looking campus. Its rural setting gives it a huge advantage." "On the contrary, most of the buildings are surrounded by acres of grass and trees. It is a classic rural and beautiful campus" Here you assume that everybody wants to attend a "rural" campus.That everybody's idea of a perfect educational setting matches yours. Sorry to deflate your ego a little, but that is simply not true. And to be accurate, Can't is not a rural campus, it's a small town campus. Big difference. .. "There is no way one can legitimately claim that the UA campus requires them to walk a long way from a parking facility to the center of campus. UA is not that big of a campus when you compare it to others like K.E.N.T. " Walk with me one day with the load of books and equipment and uniforms I carry. In high winds and subzero weather. "While UA has a nice campus, it is still a dinky little campus". So, you say we shouldn't criticize Can't, then criticize Akron over and over again for having everything in one place. Again you are assuming everybody wants to attend a campus with "beautiful parks and trees and statues of squirrels" between where you are and where you're going. There are several advantages to having everything right there, I gave a couple that you ignored... But stopping by the ballpark and catching a few innings of baseball, soccer practice, or working out between classes is very relaxing IMO. If you're in a highly stressful program it's a definite plus. Then, you jump on the Roo Express. "The Roo Express is hardly necessary and only exists as a marketing ploy and spin." You obviously don't take into account the spread out residential areas, Polsky building, Quaker Square, the lively bars and restaurants you claim UA doesn't have, the entertainment downtown (professional baseball, concerts, festivals, art), and everywhere else. Not the least has been mentioned by someone else, urban life does bring with it security concerns. True, Akron fans and students don't have to crowd into a bus to go to football games, but during the week the Roo Express is a highly used link. And you thought nobody would notice how you skated around my reply to: "I was a grad student there and most of the buildings are not butted up against main roads." That five lane state highway is just a mirage... "Engaging in silly accusations about the K.E.N.T. campus makes Akron people and UA look small and petty." Never mind the fact you just spent all day doing just that. "and the same goes for the stupid looking Polsky Building." You do realize the Polsky Building is local landmark, and serves a much different purpose than the main campus does. "So, stop showing your blatant ignorance of how the competitive process works." Oh I completely understand how the competitive process works. I do want Akron's campus to improve and become the best in the state, best in the world. But I don't want it to be like Can't. If I liked Can't's atmosphere, I would have gone to Can't. You're comparing apples to oranges, trying to make an inner city campus look like a cow-town college. We need to look at Cleveland State, Youngstown State, Toledo, Ohio State, Pittsburgh. That's our comparison, other urban campuses. Not Can't. You need to get past the fact that Akron students had a choice between the two, and chose Akron. Can't students had a choice and chose Can't. Not everybody thinks like you, or acts like you (thank God). Not everybody shares your vision of what a college campus should be like. If we dislike the rural setting, actually a small town setting if you wanted to be accurate, as much as you seem to loath the urban setting, well that's just our opinion. And all the insults and chest thumping in the world isn't going to change that.

I get your obvious pride in Cant State, that's probably admirable among Cant alimni. But when you come into a Zip forum, don't take anything anyone says seriously if you don't agree, and have to resort to blatant insults to hide your ignorance of U of A's campus, any reply is a waste of our time.

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You guys must have two different visions of what a campus should look like. I see Can't's buildings butted up to main roads, separated by parking lots, and I see a less blighted less urban Cleveland State. I see Akron's walking corridors, park settings, everything self contained, IMO it's more relaxed. Granted the long walk from the perimeter parking to a classroom in the center of campus can be a real pain in subzero wind chill conditions. But stopping by the ballpark and catching a few innings of baseball, soccer practice, or working out between classes is very relaxing IMO. If you're in a highly stressful program it's a definite plus. That's just my impressions of Can't, from going to games and going to fire school there awhile back. Maybe they're off base, but you know how first impressions can be...

My point is, we leave money on the table when a Saturday night game sells out on Tuesday morning. We need more CAPACITY. Then, address the woeful merchandise program. The people I sat with in the MAC and the NCAA were affluent people. They were soccer fans. They wore jerseys (for other teams of course) and talked about ManU and all that. And the ones who could get tickets before the sell-out sat on the frozen ground. I know there's only two college sports that break even, at precious few schools if you knew the truth. But this is a different situation here. We had the only profitable indoor soccer team. The only profitable arena football team. And we know what happened to those leagues. I saw the Cleveland Caps break USL attendance records, before the league mandated they play on grass, and lead a nomadic existance begging for high schools to let them use the stadium a couple times a season. The first of two financially successful USL teams the league botched. The Aeros broke attendance records and is often the best selling minor league merchandise. This market could be the exception. If for no other reason, giving these fans a comfortable seat and humane restrooms would go a long way to breaking the stigma Buchtel High has. I applaud the much needed upgrades. But we're screwing ourselves if we don't have more seats when it's all said and done. IMHO.

Maybe they should add up all of the money they left on the table last year when all of those games sold out on Tuesday because of inadequate seating. Imagine how many tickets they could have sold if they had twice as many seats. Or more. For crying out loud I've seen 19,000 fans at indoor soccer games before, some paying for SRO. Not to mention the very weak inventory of Zips wear they have for sale in their used Winnebago trailer, they park next to the portable outhouse. How much money did they leave on the table just in those games (OSU, MAC tourney, and NCAA tourney)? What a bass ackward bunch of clowns. Build a 30,000 seat football stadium for a team that has a hard time drawing 3,000, and put a national powerhouse soccer program (smack dab in the middle of a soccer hotbed) on a crap field with less seats than a local high school football program draws for JV games. End of rant. Thanks for letting me vent.

I'm not convinced that the difference in level of competition is that big a problem to split Div 1A into 2 or more sub-divisions. If you look at other sports with performance disparities, like Formula One racing or Major League baseball, a disadvantaged team (Virgin/Baltimore Orioles) has to play against the richest teams (McLaren and Ferrari/Yankees and Red Sox) day in and day out. The disparity between a MAC team and a top 40 team may be bigger, BUT they don't HAVE to play tOSC or USC unless they want to ($$$$$). They can play all of their games against schools with the same relative level (conference games) or much worse (non-con games in basketball). IMHO all that moving down a subdivision would do is attach an even bigger "minor league" stigma to Akron sports, and take away revenue. To look at it another way, why should the NCAA give Akron a handicap, since it can't build a competitive program? For a school it's size and also bing in a football hotbed, the right person should be able to make this program into something exciting. Akron has 30,000 students, give or take. And that number goes up faster than the parking decks can. Boise State has 18,900. TCU 8,700. Oregon 37,000. Nebraska 22,000. There's only one reason Akron hasn't been able to follow in their footsteps (or a closer example, Cincinnati). And it has nothing to do with the Top 40 schools being 20 times bigger... Good discussion.