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He's not even the best now. Baker Mayfield had better numbers this year. Looking at another Browns QB, what could Otto Graham have accomplished if he had today's training and nutrition, could play 16 regular season games a year, and made enough money to stay in the league more than 10 years? Championship games played in prestine conditions? Would he be better suited to today's game than the 40's and 50's? What about Johnny Unitas had those conditions? So many "what ifs", so many changes in the game, it all comes down to opinion. And opinion is often formed by what was seen most recently (or at all).

Is Eric going to see the floor this season?

If I passed him on campus or in town my first impression is that he is a basketball coach. You know what they say about first impressions. LOL

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A club sport is started, coached, operated, and played by students. It's not a sanctioned sport. That doesn't mean that they can't be a whole lot of fun. I went to a lot of club hockey games when the team was well organized and played a regular schedule. Attendance at those games rivaled a lot of the official sports at the university. It was a great time. But there are limits on what the university can do to support them.

Seriously? This is the coach who's better than Terry Bowden? I don't get it. These guys seem underwhelmed as well

A couple of bad calls... Disappointed but still proud of our Zips.

These TV hacks are so far us MSU's ass they can't barely mention there's another team out there. Even up 4-0...

Kind of strange watching "Zips Football with Terry Bowden" Same opening that they used all season. Once the show started, David Skoczen and Joe Dunn referred to the show as "Zips Football Weekly". Then they just mentioned the team looking for a new coach, never mentioned his name.

I'll be there. If there's any seats left, I get out of work at 7:30ish in Canton.

Texas is another hotspot for high school football. Most places in the country draw less fans and students to varsity football games than some of the JV games in the hot spots. We might not get a lot of recruits from Texas (although we were getting quite a few from Florida another hot spot), getting good players from Ohio gets their family and friends to the games. They have support. They can go home on holidays and on weekends in the off season.

We need another experienced college head coach. It was the experienced Bowden who rescued the program from the disaster the inexperienced iCoach left us with. We need anopther experienced college head coach to take it from here. How many rookie head coaches have we lived through between the Zips and the Browns over the decades?

We can talk about population all week, but the simple fact is football is THE sport in Ohio high schools, especially northeast Ohio. It's a northeast Ohio hotbed. The best athletes play football in high school. In other parts of the country, that isn't true.

Mike McCarthy is unemployed now.

...a sad ending to a successful coaching career. 175–114–2

How long does Vince Kehres' have left on his contract?

...and this one mercifully ends. Last one out turn out the lights.

At least we're not sitting in the freezing rain watching this.

We've seen more of him than we have seen Kato upright.

Another helmet-to-helmet hit. I'd be happy to never play in an SEC stadium again.

Well that's a new way to screw up...

They're doing their job as SEC homers (I MEAN) refs.

Seriously? The targeting penalty was overturned? Welcome to SECland...

It's not too early to speculate. It's a discussion forum, where we talk about our favorite teams. I'm about 50/50 whether we're looking at new coaches. If it was just injuries, I'd say those are the breaks. But the debacle where players didn't want to be there, not giving a comete effort, lining up on the wrong side of the field. That is a coaching issue and someone has to go...