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The key selling point is the number of high misdemeanors and even felons who just go home or wherever because the jail is overfull.

Has the university checked out naming rights sponsors and hit up the alumni in an attempt to build their own gym errrrrr single-purpose "arena"? I haven't been contacted yet. They've been trying to get their hands in my pockets since I graduated (almost as much as they were when I was in school) but I haven't heard anything about a new gym yet.

How did the city finance Canal Park? Not that that's really related to this project, since the Canton-Akron Indians threatened to move before Akron announced CP (ala the Indians and the NFL). The Zips can't threaten to move. And the economy is a lot different than it was in 1996. With the design limitations all they have to sell is Zips basketball. Don't hold your breath.

Is it wrong to hope we don't get much publicity, because if we do there will be no place to sit at the retention basin?

Agreed. I see a lot of progress over the mess Rick Rembielak inherited.

Cool, the blockout is lifted.

I have Dish. I'm not going back to Warner just because the MAC signed a lame contract.

2-0 bottom of the 8th

Did anyone else see the 2nd baseman pull his foot off the bag at least a second before he caught the ball? Oh well, extra innings. Wish this was on radio, want to get outside.

Thank you

I'm not impressed. BTW, how are teams selected for the CWS? Does each conference get a bid, like in basketball? Or is it by rankings (popularity) like football?

Is Carlos Santana coaching the Buffalo infield today?

Very cool!!! I saw them play the Cleveland Caps back in the day in Solon.

I hope so, I can get the SEC's network...

Once a douche bag, always a douche bag...

Cool!!! I can get that $&% @$ channel on my TV...

My only memory of Tress at Akron was him nodding off during my graduation. Several times.

There was so much more that this issue was about that the alcohol and tobacco companies didn't mention in their advertising blitz. Enough people saw through those lies and misconceptions, along with the sports fans to get it through. This is a different animal.

People got behind Canal Park, which wasn't for Major League Baseball.

So, the Gateway District doesn't see a large increase in customers when the Indians/Cavs are in town? Likewise South Main when the RubberAeros are in town? The people who migrated from the Flats when it became a war zone went to West 3rd Street, And if that turns into an expensive dangerous hole full of douch bags they will migrate somewhere else. They're not asking for 'more' money for the teams. They're asking that the money the public is responsible for to keep up its structures continue to come from the sin tax, and not from firefighters and cops getting laid off. If the county buys a police car, they have a lot of expense in keeping it on the road. And after so many miles, it needs an overhaul, or replaced. The public just can't vote to stop changing the oil in the cars and replacing batteries. It doesn't work that way. If you take away the revenue to do that maintenance, it has to come from somewhere else.

Like Roosters, Quaker Steak and Lube, to name a couple

Depending on their lease with the city of Canton, that's a possible tennant. That makes 42 dates +/-. Is this building going to be sustained by the taxpayers? Or will it need to break even at some point? If the taxpayers are going to run and maintain it for few thousand Zips and Charge fans, then just having a basketball floor makes sense. Otherwise you have to look at other revenue streams to keep the doors open. A minor league arena football or soccer team is one way of doing that. But if you really want something to sell to the taxpayers, you have to think outside sports. You have to look at what other cities are doing with their structures. And then show the taxpayer that it's not just a gym for the University and the Cavs feeder team. http://wesbancoarena.com/ http://www.erieevents.com/about/tullio_arena.htm http://www.huntingtoncentertoledo.com/ That would be a much easier sell IMO

I don't understand why you would make such an investment in a building of such limited use. You're severely limiting the events you can hold, when you really need to fill dates. And I've shown pictures in other threads of arenas that are multi-purpose which do not affect the sight-lines for basketball. I think people are basing it on the poor design of the quarter century old arena Cleveland State built. Things have changed a lot since then in seating systems. As old as the Gund arena is, I haven't heard any complaints about its design and sight lines at the MAC tournament. It's ignorant to limit the use of the building that much. If you look at newer arenas in similar cities, most of those events use the whole floor space. How are they going to fill at least some of the 350 dates a year with a glorified basketball gym? I wouldn't want that job.

What the people in Cuyahoga County who are against Issue 7 don't get is, the money is going to be paid. Either through the sin tax or from reductions in the public safety forces and other services that will be lost. Voting down Issue 7 does NOT force the owners pay for upkeep and renovations on buildings the public owns.

Closer to home, does anyone remember the area around Canal Park before Canal Park was there? Were there ANY businesses in the area besides adult theaters and boarded up hotels where homeless stayed and "business" was conducted? Now look at it.