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Once a douche bag, always a douche bag...

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My only memory of Tress at Akron was him nodding off during my graduation. Several times.

There was so much more that this issue was about that the alcohol and tobacco companies didn't mention in their advertising blitz. Enough people saw through those lies and misconceptions, along with the sports fans to get it through. This is a different animal.

People got behind Canal Park, which wasn't for Major League Baseball.

So, the Gateway District doesn't see a large increase in customers when the Indians/Cavs are in town? Likewise South Main when the RubberAeros are in town? The people who migrated from the Flats when it became a war zone went to West 3rd Street, And if that turns into an expensive dangerous hole full of douch bags they will migrate somewhere else. They're not asking for 'more' money for the teams. They're asking that the money the public is responsible for to keep up its structures continue to come from the sin tax, and not from firefighters and cops getting laid off. If the county buys a police car, they have a lot of expense in keeping it on the road. And after so many miles, it needs an overhaul, or replaced. The public just can't vote to stop changing the oil in the cars and replacing batteries. It doesn't work that way. If you take away the revenue to do that maintenance, it has to come from somewhere else.

Like Roosters, Quaker Steak and Lube, to name a couple

Depending on their lease with the city of Canton, that's a possible tennant. That makes 42 dates +/-. Is this building going to be sustained by the taxpayers? Or will it need to break even at some point? If the taxpayers are going to run and maintain it for few thousand Zips and Charge fans, then just having a basketball floor makes sense. Otherwise you have to look at other revenue streams to keep the doors open. A minor league arena football or soccer team is one way of doing that. But if you really want something to sell to the taxpayers, you have to think outside sports. You have to look at what other cities are doing with their structures. And then show the taxpayer that it's not just a gym for the University and the Cavs feeder team. http://wesbancoarena.com/ http://www.erieevents.com/about/tullio_arena.htm http://www.huntingtoncentertoledo.com/ That would be a much easier sell IMO

I don't understand why you would make such an investment in a building of such limited use. You're severely limiting the events you can hold, when you really need to fill dates. And I've shown pictures in other threads of arenas that are multi-purpose which do not affect the sight-lines for basketball. I think people are basing it on the poor design of the quarter century old arena Cleveland State built. Things have changed a lot since then in seating systems. As old as the Gund arena is, I haven't heard any complaints about its design and sight lines at the MAC tournament. It's ignorant to limit the use of the building that much. If you look at newer arenas in similar cities, most of those events use the whole floor space. How are they going to fill at least some of the 350 dates a year with a glorified basketball gym? I wouldn't want that job.

What the people in Cuyahoga County who are against Issue 7 don't get is, the money is going to be paid. Either through the sin tax or from reductions in the public safety forces and other services that will be lost. Voting down Issue 7 does NOT force the owners pay for upkeep and renovations on buildings the public owns.

Closer to home, does anyone remember the area around Canal Park before Canal Park was there? Were there ANY businesses in the area besides adult theaters and boarded up hotels where homeless stayed and "business" was conducted? Now look at it.

Nice crowd yesterday, I overheard a couple guys who never considered going to a ballgame until the SpringFest. I see the advantages of being on-campus, and really think even a small upgrade would help get people out. Get rid of the stands that look like they salvaged them from South High School when it closed, put in some decent bleachers behind the plate and where the current ones are. Maybe some chair-backs in the top row of the stands behind the plate. Leave the hill along the 3rd base line for folding chairs and picnic blankets. Adding the concession stand and real restrooms with the new soccer stadium really helps. It sure beats the old port-a-jon on a hot day. It wouldn't be D1 standards, but it would be nice. it's just tough to sit there getting splinters in your bottom, looking at what the U has done for the softball program.

When is the spring game?

Why are they playing less games at Canal Park? That's the perfect solution to a lot of the problems, the only bad thing about it is students can't catch a few innings between classes (does anyone do that since I graduated in 2012?). But I guess we're lucky to even have a baseball program. Ask Cleveland State.

Great idea. THIS is how you work around Proposition Title IX and all paying athletes of non revenue producing sports. And they're not employees.

The fact that Mount Union plays football tells me that if there are only a couple dozen FBS programs that aren't hemorrhaging money, the budgets are completely out of control. Mount Union recruits. Within its means. Mount Union travels. Within its means. Mount Union doesn't require 80,000 people to buy highly expensive tickets to sustain. Mount Union doesn't have to whore itself out to a Big Ten team to sustain. The money problems in college football programs are within. Trying to keep up with the Jones'. If this video doesn't make you sick... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/nca...rtsillustrated/

Holy crap that would tarnish his image more than tatgate. Outside of trailer parks and small cities along the river, of course.

Exactly. The Canton-Akron Indians are the perfect local example.

People like Steve French, Joe Dunn, and Tom Linder? I look forward to hearing your call to them next time Steve is on.

Agreed, SOS is pure BS. Not only is it not fair to anyone outside the darling conferences, it also brings in every chance for favoritism and politics that have made D1A football a joke (in my mind) since the bowls and then the BCS systems meant dollar signs. Look no further than when TCU and Boise had their golden season, there was no way in hell the powers-that-be were going to let them even sniff the championship game. SOS, legacy conference, all that other bullshit was shoveled at us. I'm not saying that either could have won, but I knew right then what I suspected all along. We need an 8 team playoff. Conference champions from the boy's club conferences, and two at-large spots for the other conferences, and Notre Dame if they happen to win 11 or 12 games. Make it a REAL championship. Not a popularity contest, And don't give me no crap about the poor student athletes. The boys on D3 do just fine with their playoffs and their grades, and they're working toward real degrees. If TCU or Boise or Akron had a strong national fanbase and "travelled well" they/we would be in the boy's club too. If you're not in the boy's club errrr "legacy programs", you're crap.

That was a joke but think about it. All of the events he wants to hold are arena events. He has a much better chance of having an arena football team (and having it survive) than a minor league real football team (if there was a viable league). If it were professionally done, would the U put the basketball games there instead of the gym? Think about it. The university and the city get a new arena without years of whining about who's going to pay for it. The downtown site fans can't whine that it's on campus. The campus site fans can't whine that it's downtown. And he gets a solid anchor for the place. Purely a joke. But it makes a hell of a lot more sense than rebuilding the Bowl.

Maybe he'll tear it down and build an arena there.

Well, they are trying to attract the young demographic. This is probably what Banner thinks that means...

According to 1350's Big Show, Tress is interviewing with the Browns this weekend. IDK how he would relate to NFL players, or how his system would work in the NFL. He would move the needle with the lost fanbase though. But that is a very bad job if you want security. A prez and owner with an itchy trigger finger, and a roster with no QB or RB. I don't think Tress makes that move, depending on how his future looks at the U and how bad he really wants to coach and rebuild his rep. I don't think that's a good fit for either. So obviously, it'll happen.

I wish I had come across these geniuses before they blew their wad on the Rubber Bowl. Icould have come up with an equally viable scheme. If the USFL was going to work out (no way it could, even before the legal trouble) it would have been the anchor for the whole project. Now there is none. They were looking for other leagues, but minor league football has pretty much dried up. Unless you're talking about arena football, and even that is not what it once was. Unless they find events to anchor this project, I don't see it working out.