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Not having credibility with you is a plus in my book. Anyway you're the one who said "YSU won a championship because they hired the right coach, not because they played in the FCS. Here'sa news flash for you: all the factors that lead to success in the FCS also work at the FBS level." So, they would have won at any level? The same "right coach" won in FBS. All the same factors are the same, according to you. You don't acknowledge BUDGET or AVAILABLE TALENT LEVEL has anything to do with it. So if you can win an FCS title, you can also win an FBS title too, right? Bottom line: I'm looking at this as a FAN. I want to win. I want a chance at the whole thing. You're looking at this as if winning the Mickey Mouse Bowl has all of these benefits to the university somehow. We'll never agree. I see FCS as a league we could never afford to build in, and even if we did, would never be invited to the title game. You see FCS as a way to gain exposure (whatever that's worth) by playing in a junior bowl game that nobody watches. Because the majority of college football fans want to see the best, the top 25, not 106th playing 202nd.

So if YSU had played in IA instaed of IAA theey would have won Ia championships. If ONLY the Aeros had played Major League we would have a World Series in Akron. Dang it!!! Oh man you live in a dream world. YSU won a championship because they played at their level, the level they could afford to play, the level they could recruit at, the level they could compete at. So tell me, what is Akron's football budget? What is Alabama's? Ohio State's? What is your plan to beat these teams?

We're still waiting for two straight winning seasons. Hell two straight Cleveland Browns-type seasons would be nice... I'm pretty sure most people declare we suck now. You have a hard time understanding how YSU won national championships? Or how a non-legacy school will never win one at the D1-A level? Or how Norwayne was the state football champion last year? What part are you having trouble with? I doubt we can help you out, especially when the GoDaddy bowl beckons...

Originally Tony Rizzo (a Fox employee and friends with a lot of STO people) said Fox was going to try to move the Indians to FSO and shut down the station. Yesterday he said everyone at STO is looking for jobs, but he's not sure FSO can fit the Reds and Indians on the same network. If that's true, they might continue MAC coverage and TV shows.

All programs have more exposure via TV in the last 25 years, because of cable TV. Including the Ohio Athletic Conference and D3 playoffs. I'm having Three Dog Night withdrawl. Screw the team shop in the winter, open a couple food stands. LOL

Good. The last thing we need is some yahoo yelling "WHY AREN'T YOU PLAYING THE YANKEES!!!! YOU BUNCH OF UNDERACHIEVERS!!!" And if you found out the food is ten times better there than at the Pro, you won't leave.

Because of he football program?

How can an opinion be wrong? Get over yourself.

But that's just it. The whole basis for staying in D1A is nothing but hypotheticals. IF Akron becomes a MAC powerhouse IF Akron becomes a perennial top 10 program. IF there is an 8 team playoff one day (going against all the people making million$ off the bowl system) IF the 8 team playoff allows someone besides the legacy conference in (going against all of the elitist "legacy" program/conference presidents who run college football) IF the NCAA continues to ignore the attendance requirements and allows half the MAC to remain in I-A That's a LOT of IF's in my book. A lot of dreaming. If I were a gambling man, I would bet on becoming a dominant DI-AA program, playing for playoff spots, winning games, and drawing really nice crowds to the Info.

We're already capable of losing to Toledo...

Yet they have never played in the championship game. My whole point. "Fine, Boise and TCU. You ran the table. Here's your consolation game, cuz there aint no way in hell you "belong" in the title game". OK, 16 instead of 15. Pat yourself on the back. So you agree the selection process is flawed and heavily weighted toward the legacy programs. Which is what you seem to be arguing against. In your opinion is the BCS BS or worth trying to aspire to be a part of?

What division was your high school? If they had won the state championship at that level, would you consider it "mythical" if they weren't Division 1? The OHSAA is restructuring the schools and Wadsworth is about to be dropped from Division 1 to Division 2. I don't hear a lot of crying because the D2 state championship is "meaningless". MOST people would be glad to play schools more our size, and not go up against schools that recruit (sometimes out of state) in the playoffs. How is that even fair? I've never seen more people embrace the Peter Principle in one group.

Bullshit. A team not in a "legacy" conference can run the table and still not sniff a prayer at making the national championship. All you hear is "Strength of Schedule" "But they didn't BEAT anybody". Now let's assume for a minute MInnesota and Utah go 13-0, are they playing in the BCS Championship Game? They're B10/SEC, right? In other words, there are only 10-15 programs eligible to play in that game. Or win a Heisman. This dream of seeing a MAC team playing Boise State in the BCS title game is pure fantasy. IF there were an 8 team playoff someday, with 1 or 2 "at large" seeds, then I'm all in for Division I-A. Maybe when all the Gordon Gee's and SEC Networks of the world are dead and gone. Maybe.

see above. And just because the majority think one way, doesn't necessarily mean it's the best. The majority of TV viewers can't get enough of awful sit-coms and reality shows. And we won't even talk about elections...

In baseball, everyone is "eligible" to play in the World Series. And small market teams do make it, San Francisco and St Louis have won the last three, the last one over Detroit.

So the Aeros are quitters because they play in AA...

Do you really want to see the Shurmur gameplan in Arenaball??? "Well, you know a field goal is almost as good as a touchdown. If you have a couple of them."

Right now. Everyone else gave up trying to talk to you wanna-be elitists.

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Do you really not know the difference between D1-AA and D@, or are you just acting ignorant?

I did say "TV", and a lot of internet suppliers don't carry ESPN3. I had to switch to get it. What do you want to pick apart next?

Anyone else notice the local D3 schools get more TV games than the Zips? Part of the reason is Mount U always plays deep into the championship (hint hint), but even during the regular season I see BW and JC and other schools on the tube more often than the Zips.

I went to Chippewa High School in Doylestown. We were/are Division IV and that's where we belong. And yes it is very exciting playing against other Division IV schools. We have no business pretending to be Massillon or Moeller. And if you asked Mogadore, neither would they.

Interesting question, the best direct comparison is the Sagarin Ratings http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbc12.htm Someone mentioned the MVC (infatuated with North and South Dakota I guess), in the ratings it is a mirror image of the MAC. Which proves the whole MAC belongs in D1A. Look at another conference with regional matchups the Northeast (Duquesne, Robert Morris) Akron would be a top three program. Fact is several MAC schools should drop (according to NCAA attendance standards if not performance) and a new conference could be formed with these programs that are currently playing conference games hundreds or thousands of miles away. Don't tell me fans would rather watch Central Michigan than Youngstown State, Dayton, and Duquesne. The hockey team draws just as well when Duq and Robert Morris and IUP visit as they do for Cincinnati and Ohio and Toledo. You just gotta win. When Bowden stops making rookie mistakes (eating his own clock, calling TO when the other team can't call an audible) I'll get excited about the current staff. I don't know if there could ever be enough marketing to make me excited about the NIT-level bowl games we aspire to someday qualify for.

Well there's certainly no way to follow that up...