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IIRC, the Rooney's were the only owners who voted against the Browns leaving. I hate the Steelers, but have to respect the family.

We must have been. 2 Buffalo players are on that list and their game is going on right now. The list came out yesterday.

^^^ Just to be clear, that is his rating for week 11 (vs Miami). I would imagine he makes next week's team as well for his effort vs OU.

Whether true or not, I would imagine those thoughts come from Illinois fans, where maybe that would get "exposed" when you are playing in a top 2 conference in the country, but we're talkin' about the MAC here! Will be interesting to see how Groce's replacement at IL does this season.

There's an old adage..."if you have two QBs then you have no QBs." I mean I really do think we have 2 QBs, but play the QB the team will best respond to/gives you the best chance to win. Messing around with rotations and what not just takes away from the effectiveness the best one can provide.

People still love their dollar beer and free stuff though as far as I know

Boooo......... I guess if there is a silver lining its that we are the only nationally televised game. I wonder what they are showing on ESPN2? https://twitter.com/MACSports/status/931202216660275200

Oh please, enough with the coded BS. "A move he never really wanted to make." If you know something different than what the general population knows (which if there is, I highly doubt it to be as big of an issue as some are making it out to be), then spill the beans. It isn't confidential information unless a NDA was signed by Keith for whatever reason...which I HIGHLY doubt.

Oh..and how cOUld I forget abOUt typing like this.

I think for both us and them, it has a lot to do with competitiveness. While we do have a lackluster history in D-1 football, we now look at Kent as what *should* be an automatic win on the schedule and they look at Miami the same I'd imagine. We've also had some pretty epic match ups on the hardwood, and we both seem to have more of an online presence than Kent and Miami...so that makes it easier to get into it more I think. I get more enjoyment out of beating Ohio as well, because I know a lot of OU fans and they're obnoxious. "OU OH YEAH" is god dang annoying. It's something a person with the IQ of potato would constantly scream.

Do you go to the games?

Do you go to the games?

Apparently you didn't watch the NIU/WMU game last night, 2 programs that have had much more success in recent years than the Zips probably ever will.

Should have been an offsides call. These announcers really struggled to grasp what the offense did on that play.

Targeting rule explained: I haven't gotten to Davis' hit yet in the replay, but Camara's hit was indeed targeting. I would lean towards the call on Davis being correct as well. https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/9/2/16218244/targeting-rule-ncaa-rulebook-helmet-crown-head-to-head-defenseless

I just skimmed back through and thought the same thing, interesting in the least. I also realized I forgot to do my game by game prediction -_-

You guys are obviously getting this somewhere, but i have not seen anything. I checked the schedule for next Tuesday and the games we are competing with are BG/EMU and Miami/Ball St. I see no reason why we shouldn't get that ESPN2 slot (if there is one available).

This game scares me. Our rival with a MAC-C bid, and even possibly a bowl bid on the line, as I'm not ready to say we are guaranteed for anything with the current numbers presented in the bowl watch thread. Numerous cases of let downs after big wins this season in College Football. OSU vs Iowa, Toledo vs Ohio, and heck maybe even Ohio vs us come to mind right away. Last night was the time to celebrate but now its time to concentrate on Kent. They would love nothing more than to potentially ruin our season and take the Wagon Wheel back. We better be ready to bring it. Get focused and kick ass! It's 12:40..........

^^Kato said that there are RPO's in the playbook that were called (at least last night). I don't recall any that I really noticed, but I do remember that the apparent absence of those last week was brought up as a complaint towards the OC.

Our attendance issues obviously aren't something we should be content with, but I do agree.

I mean either one should be able to win the game, but Nelson. Nelson has proved he can play and Woody blew it for himself. Tough luck but hopefully a life learning moment for him.

One last thing...I enjoyed myself last night probably more than I ever have at a Zips game. Some of these people trashing attendance on social media are Zips fans I believe. Put your money where your mouth is and show up yourself or go pound salt.

Let's hope last night will change his mind. I REALLY would love for us to land him. I saw a Barberton contingent there, couldn't tell if he was with them or not.

Whew......Finally posting my thoughts as I got home near midnight last night. Burning this first hour of work to read over this thread is worth it. I'll have to make some time at lunch to read the mental breakdown over on bobcatattack Where to start: Kato obviously played great. He was cerebral running the O. Night and day compared to last week. What a huge and gutsy run to seal the game with that final first down. I am excited for him for the future. The offensive line played great as well. I hardly noticed any pressure at all on Kato during his drop backs and I don't believe he was sacked at all. I've always been a fan of Woody, but I am done with him, and it has nothing to do with Kato's performance last night. If you are a senior QB and F up during the last 3 weeks of the season when your team is fighting for its best overall record in history/MAC Championship/Bowl bid, and your F up is SO bad that you are not suspended 1 week, but multiple weeks, I just have no respect for you and cannot defend you. I would have to imagine the AD/Coaching staff is done with him as well, as if it wasn't a 1 week suspension I would imagine it will be for the rest of the season. It's a shame he threw it all away. Defense scared the hell out of me in the first quarter. Couldn't stop OU at all. But we tightened up some in the 2nd and then really seemed to shut OU down in the 2nd half, even down to starters. Speaking of being down 2 starters... Featherstone AND George played phenomenal games. PHENOMENAL. Both of these guys are back up safeties remember. I said early in the season that we had 2 starting caliber players ready to take over at they've shown that. I didn't think the Davis and Camara targeting penalties were legit, but they don't show replays at the stadium. Seems they were rightfully called based on this thread. Davis wasn't playing great anyways, and he really needs to get that under control. Special teams was horrid. I feel like OU could have blocked our punt every time if they wanted. It was always close. Our kickoff coverage left a lot to be desired and the botched extra point almost cost us. I don't hold it against Featherstone much as he is the back up punt returner, but dang he made me nervous. Coney is much more sure handed and smooth, but it looked like he had a collarbone issue to me and is probably out the rest of the season, maybe he can make it back for the bowl game. I thought the offense looked a little different with Kato back there this week. Spiced up in a good way with some motions and what not. I saw some complaint about the 3 and out drive with just under 6 minutes to go deep in their territory. You absolutely have to run your normal O there up 3 with 6 mins left when they have 3 timeouts. It just didn't work out there. Dailey struggled.....I'm not sure if all 3 of his DPI's should have really been called. The refs seemed to be calling it really tight against us. Something to note though is that he was left on an island. Featherstone seemed up close to the line (presumably to help with the run game) more often than not, leaving George as the only deep safety. I'm not one to complain about refs much........but geez oh weez was that horrible. Just awful management of the flow of the game and we got ZERO calls, and every ticky-tack call went against us. Trying to discredit these wins to "luck" really pisses me off. We've had plenty of crap go against us these past 2 seasons and I know you all wouldn't be giving Bowden the benefit of the doubt if we were losing close games. You know...like against Troy. Our team has been winning these games on the field. Give them credit. Go Zips! Kent State still sucks! No let down.... Win the MAC!! Oh one last thing....the @Zipmeister is alive!

What if for some odd reason the Zips don't get invited to a bowl game @Balsy ? What if the Zips go 6-6 and then win their bowl game @kreed5120 ?