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Dooood.Let's get through this one first!

Too cool Fear...great job.

Wasn't Fly Williams from APU?By the way, for the first few years we were in the OVC, we pronouced it...Austin PayWe had no idea it was actually pronouced, well, you know, like it is.And I though Peay was the first governor of Tenn, that's why they named the school after him.Thanks for setting me straight on that one.

Hello Ziplock, The first year that Akron was in the OVC (81-82) the conference consisted of Akron, Austin Peay, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, Morehead, Murray State, Tennessee Tech, Eastern Kentucky, and Youngstown State. It was also Youngstown State's first year in the OVC as well. Western Kentucky left the OVC the following year and joined the Sun Belt Conference even though WKU was one of the founding members of the OVC. Akron left the OVC after the 86-87 season and Youngstown State left the following year. The OVC picked up Tennessee State in the 87-88 season so they were the Zips replacement, I suppose. Middle Tennessee State left the OVC for the Sun Belt after the 99-2000 season but mainly for football reasons as they are now NCAA Div.I in football. The OVC has since picked up Southeast Missouri, Samford, Jacksonville State and Eastern Illinois and I think they did so mainly for football reasons. Austin Peay killed scholarship football several years ago but revived scholarship football this past year and will rejoin OVC play. Jax. State and Eastern Illinois are consistently at or near the bottom of the OVC in basketball virtually every year and SEMO is pretty much a middle of the pack team although they have won one OVC championship. Samford does alright but they play Bob Cousey, 1950's slowball. It's hard to prepare for the Princeton style. Still, they haven't won the OVC and are not going to win it very many times. Murray State and Austin Peay have won the lion's share of the titles over the past 20 years with Murray getting the lion's share of the NCAA bids. With the exception of perhaps Youngstown State, I do not think the OVC was geographically suitable for Akron to have any big rivalries. Even though it is called the OHIO Valley Conference, there are no teams from Ohio in it. If Akron was located in Southern Ohio then that would have brought you much closer geographically to teams such as Morehead and Eastern Kentucky. I was a student at Akron when we switched to the OVC.We were coming out of DII, the Mid Continent Conference.OVC was very impressive brand of basketball. Western and Eastern Kentucky and Murray St. were especially tough at the time.We were outclassed in those early years when Ken Cunningham and Bob Rupert were our coaches.But, as you mentioned, we were the Yankee school (before Youngstown joined) and really couldn't get much of a rivalry started with anyone.I think the proof of that was Youngstown pulling out the year after we did. They really didn't have a reason to stick around anymore.I remember going down to Murfeesboro for the OVC tournament...I think it was 88 or 89...I broke up a fight between this old guy from Eastern Kentucky who thought a guy from Middle said something about his wife....funny seeing these old geezers going at it.

That's actually a quote from Dumb and Dumber. Trust me, I know my rock n' roll. I thought you were kidding on that one Bum....but when we're almost a generation apart...you never know for sure.I see you down there at the games....keep up the good fight!

Toledo 68OU 823 min leftMy OH My!

Is anyone else out of town with no audio?

Akron 35EMU 20timeout...with about 3 min left

Akron 35EMU 16Zips had an 18 to 2 runMiddleton with 10Milum with 9EMU...lots of turnovers

Akron 33EMU 16Cedrick hits from 3...has 10 points already.

Akron 30EMU 166:38

Akron 25EMU 147:35 left 1sttimeout on the floor

Dials for Thaaaaa reeeee2314Zips

Good luck to you!

Akron 20EMU 14

My dad went to Duquesne.We're from there, but moved here when the mills closed....

Akron 17EMU 1411:27 1st half

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sgm is not an F.O.C. (Friend of Charlie)

I take it you're not in NE Ohio

Thanks Trimmy...I take it the game video isn't streamed anywhere?

Do you think members of the Ohio State team (if they have one) are wearing Zips gear?ME87, where you around for when the Engineers blocked up "The Rock" in front of Old Knight Hall?

If anything, I'm concerned for Charlie.Unless the Browns pick up the right people, all they're going to do is ruin another good quarterback.Charlie needs some work...making better decisions, taking care of the ball and stop telegraphing his passes...I know he'll do it....if he gets an OL.He's a hard worker with the right attitude....

From the Kalamazoo GazetteWMU unfazed by `tail-kicking' at Akron Tuesday, January 30, 2007By Graham Couchgcouch@kalamazoogazette.com 388-7773 There weren't any vicious tongue-lashings at Monday's Western Michigan University men's basketball practice. The players didn't run so many sprints that they spewed their lunches into trash cans. Nor did they sulk about their chances the rest of this season. Saturday's 69-36 whipping at the hands of Akron, the Broncos said, was exactly that. It's no reason, they added, to put down their basketballs and give up the sport. ``When you get absolutely beat bad like we did on Saturday, we've got so many important games coming up, that you really have to have a short memory about it, try to take what you can from the game and move on, almost forget about it,'' said sophomore point guard Michael Redell, who had just two points, two assists and four turnovers against the Mid-American Conference East Division-leading Zips. WMU's first chance to show off its forward thinking comes Wednesday night against visiting Buffalo (9-11, 1-6 MAC). Monday, at a reporter's request, the Broncos (9-11, 4-3) spent most of their time explaining Saturday. ``I've been coaching 20 some odd years now, I mean that's not my first tail-kicking,'' WMU coach Steve Hawkins said. ``It's happened before. I hope I coach another 20 years, and it's going to happen again. I've been on the other end of them, too. ``The problem is, as coaches, it's very easy for you to make a mountain out of a molehill when you lose. If you're not careful, if you haven't gone through it, then you can really cause more damage than good.'' The question then is, did the game at Akron reveal a mountain or a molehill? Saturday, Zips forward Romeo Travis called the Broncos ``very slow'' while analyzing the contest. Monday, the Broncos didn't quite agree with the tortoise and hare comparison in reference to their personnel, though, for one game, they didn't disagree with the take on their pace offensively. Hawkins said the film showed a pretty solid defensive effort by WMU, one that was made worthless by its lack of offense. ``We helped them by being slower than we should have been, by running offense a little more methodical than we should have run (it),'' Hawkins said. Said Redell: ``We kind of held onto (the ball) too long, which caused us to take some tougher shots or some bad shots. They were definitely a quick team, but we were, before that game, the No. 1 team scoring-wise in the MAC. We control what we do on offense. More us than them. ... I'm not going to say they can lock us down. The ball does move through the air.'' As much as anything, Hawkins pointed to the off night by WMU's four best scorers -- Joe Reitz (17.7 points per MAC game before Akron; six at Akron), David Kool (13.7; five), Shawntes Gary (12.5; eight) and Redell (11.7; two). ``In a given game, we've had a guy not play real well and the other three or four have,'' Hawkins said. ``We had a day where all four guys, the main four guys offensively that had been scoring for us, all had bad days.'' A 33-point defeat, however, can leave one of the opinion that the difference in teams was more than a bad afternoon by one of them. If the Broncos see Akron again in the MAC Tournament, do they have enough of an arsenal to defeat the Zips on a semi-neutral court in Cleveland? ``I'd like to have the shot,'' said Hawkins, who pointed to Ohio -- which lost at Ball State Saturday after beating Akron -- as an example of the unpredictable nature of the league. ``Some people would say, `Well, geez, you hope you don't face them again.' That's the very wrong answer. You want another shot. You want another shot at Toledo (too). You want another shot at the teams that beat you. ``The effort that we had given before had been good enough in some of these games to win them. It's not going to be enough at Toledo or at Akron to win a game. That tells us where we're at. So we correct it.'' BRACKETBUSTER TV GAMES ANNOUNCED: As expected, WMU was not among the 28 teams picked for the 14 televised games in next month's ESPN BracketBuster. The Broncos will learn later this week which ``mid-major'' program will be visiting University Arena on Feb. 17. Southern Illinois will play Butler in the marquee matchup. Four MAC teams are slated for TV games that weekend, as well: Toledo (vs. Old Dominion); Akron (vs. Austin Peay); Ohio at New Mexico State; and Can't State at George Mason.

I just looked it up.The attendance at the Cleveland State game we were talking about earlier in '86 was 8,168.And since the Bracketbuster was just announced, the 15th largest crowd at the JAR was against the APU Govs, on Feb. 24, 1986...5,511.