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I agree. This trip could be the start of what I hope is a long winning streak at the beginning of next season.

Granted. However, going into the game, there was a better chance of msu winning than a mac school beating a Big Ten school. It's about why teams are playing these games. They are playing them for the money, not because there is a chance they might win one. The bcs schools play them because they are easy wins on their way to six wins and a bowl game and a chance at an 8 home game season. I don't see how that is good for college football. I also think a lot of top level bcs teams don't want to play more difficult teams because they might lose.

I was one of those idiots. Because I like college football. I would like to see it changed so that my main experience at one of the games was more than just "feeling good" because my team was playing in a big stadium. How would you change it? See my posts on a 40-60 team division carved out of the existing bcs schools.

I was one of those idiots. Because I like college football. I would like to see it changed so that my main experience at one of the games was more than just "feeling good" because my team was playing in a big stadium.

Not an odd choice at all. Any gameday experience that involves driving your boat to a game is a good one. The same can be done at Tennessee.

I voted Nebraska vs WI as the game that is going to be the best this season. The others don't seem that interesting at this point. Patterson at TCU is to the best coach. Look at where he is, where the program came from and his results. I did vote for the MAC. I like jump around. All other traditions are old and don't require much interaction. Mississippi is the best gameday experience. Anyone straight man who has walked The Grove know what I'm talking about.

Even if I lived in Ohio, I wouldn't go to this game. A day or two at Put-in-Bay would be time and money better spent, but don't tell that to my liver. I could care less about whatever they feel they need to restore at osu. I won't pay to go see what I believe to be a fraud perpetrated upon college football fans. That fraud is the BCS conferences OOC schedules and their playing non-BCS schools in order to pad their wins/pockets. People who pay to go to these games are part of the problem in college football. The schools do it because the fans are stupid enough to purchase tickets to this nonsense. I'd gladly pay to see the Zips play any MAC school or even FIU. I refuse to have my money stolen from me. Go Zips!

It should be called the "Tunnel of guys with nothing to do on a Saturday."

This guy is my all time favorite gunner.

The word "rebuilding" implies they are going to build it back up to what it was before...God help us.

Are you sure it's not Andy Staples or Michael Rosenberg? Now the cat is REALLY out of the bag. The Great GP1 is in fact a shape shifter. I'm all three of these people. Seriously, they are good reads and anyone with an open mind should read them. I said a long time ago now that UofA and schools like UofA need to decide their own future before the bcs schools decide it for them. They need to do it sooner rather than later. If the bcs schools start up their own league or division or whatever, we will be left out in the cold because they won't be looking out for our best interest. Schools/leagues will panic and panic makes bad decisions. I want us to make a change with a clear head.

All ugly memories. Vs DE St., we threw three pick sixes and had a punt blocked in the endzone for a TD. It was brutal....just brutal. 28 points off of TOs. Do the math, without the TOs we win. Brutal...but not the worst.

I guess the cat is out of the bag. My real name is Dan McCarney.

There is plenty of evidence that teams can have quick transitions within two years. It doesn't take two years of transition then more "building" on top of that to win in the mac.

I was going to say that maybe there was a real good fat farm there, but it doesn't look like Mangino wants anything to do with a fat farm.

Do you know how many Zips are playing in the CFL and with what teams?

Both teams weren't very good the other night. I've found that with CFL games, they are really entertaining or they are really bad. On the whole, I really enjoy watching the games when there is no college or NFL. Sort of the same way I enjoy watching the Arena League....any port in a storm I guess.

They investigated and threw the book at USC because USC did not cooperate with them. All a school needs to do is break the rules, self report, adopt a policy that says they won't do it again and they are largely off the hook for serious punishment. The ncaa is going to go easy on osu because they want to go easy on them. They aren't going to find anything else out because they aren't going to look for it. Like I said before, the Big Ten has a lot riding on this season. Nebraska is coming in the league and they are having their first championship game. The ncaa isn't going to let their fourth best league flop around as they ring in a new era. The story can't be about osu and if the ncaa continues to investigate, it becomes about osu's problems and not what they really want to focus on.The ncaa can do whatever it wants to do. There are no laws governing the ncaa so they can make them up as they go along. I actually think we are entering into a time when the ncaa will be handing out less stiff penalties to teams that break rules.Taking scholarships away from osu wouldn't hurt them. Would a coach rather have ous's 65 scholarship players or Minnesota's 85 players? If the ncaa really wanted to hurt them, they would take away a bowl game or two. There is a lot of stink around the osu program. Taking away bowl games keeps the story going for a year or two. The ncaa, big ten and osu all need this story to go away. It is larger than osu. I'm sure schools like LSU and Auburn are watching closely and expecting a light punishment as well.

I don't know how many people remember him, but there was a OLB in the mid-late 80s named Curtis Williams. An inch taller and around the same weight as a frosh. Same high school. Curtis was a very good player (started all four years at Akron) who was recruited by schools like UCLA and some really big names. Played some in the old World League or whatever it was called. There was a possibility of him being a Prop 48 so schools backed off (he ended up not being a Prop 48). Curtis was/is a good friend of mine. Has a Masters Degree from UofA and operates his own business.The new reminds us of the old. I guess that makes me old.I like skinny kids like this who the strength coach can take and make bigger his way. Not a fan of kids who come in with too much baby fat and they need to take the fat off first.

Don't lie. I know lying isn't frowned upon by osu fans, but don't apply that to one of my posts. I never said he had to know everything going on. It's just interesting to me that if this guy sticks around long enough, the crap piles up and there are a bunch of dirty people around him. Birds of a feather flock together.It has to be extremely disheartening for all osu fans to now know how hollow all of the accomplishments of the past ten years are. In many ways Buckzip, I pitty you. You have been made a fool of by one of the great con men of all time. You are in good company though. Almost an entire state was fooled along with you. It's quite sad in many ways.

Do your own research. There is this thing called Google and you can look things up with it.Secondly, put some thought into it. Lucas, MoC, Troy Smith, tatgate. All of these things go on around Tressel, yet he never seems to know anything about it. All the dirt around him and his hands are always clean. He learned well in Youngstown. I don't believe Tressel is a stupid guy so him not knowing about it can't be the answer. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Tressel is a walking Cheech and Chong movie.What really tripped Tressel up in this case was the Federal investigation. ncaa investigators are the Keystone Cops. Easy enough for Tressel to fool. A Federal Prosecutor is a whole other story. Tressel tried to hide the truth for as long as he could in order to win a few more games. He couldn't.

His cheating and his players getting paid at YSU was public knowledge 10 years ago. His relationship with the Pharmor executive was public knowledge. Things like the QB getting paid don't just happen. Especially $10,000 worth of getting paid. I know the former QB said Tressel didn't know, but he also doesn't know what the Pharmor guy and Tressel talked about when they were alone.Fact. He resigned in disgrace a few weeks ago, unless I missed something and he is still the osu coach. He resigned partly because he covered up information he knew about a Federal drug investigation. "Good people" don't do things like that.Fact. He put players on the field he knew would have been ruled not able to play had he provided what he knew to osu and then to the ncaa. He wanted to win more than doing the right thing.I don't believe this nonsense that Tressel was just a "good man who did something wrong". He did what he did because he believed he could get away with it. Woody was a good man who did something wrong against Clemson. Woody was at least an old man who was losing his senses. Tressel has no excuse other than his poor character.Dr. Drew once said that it takes years to cure people of opium addiction. I think it may take that long for lots of people from Ohio to get over Tressel addiction.

I don't like Tressel because I don't like people who portray themselves as pure as the new fallen snow and then turn out to be something else. Decent men like Joe Paterno have lost to this cheater for years now and I don't like the fact that a dishonorable person like Tressel would use cheating to get over on a decent person like Paterno. In a decent society, Tressel would be marched to a town square and have rotten produce thrown at him by the public.He is a cheater. He cheated at YSU paying players while being involved with a corrupt CEO of Pharmor (sp?). He cheated at osu covering up for players who would have not been on the field had he not covered up for their transgressions. He had to resign because of his cheating and lying. Those are only the things we know about. His time at osu is tarnished. His records mean nothing.He is a con man because he got almost an entire state to believe he was as pure as the new fallen snow and then showed himself to be a scumbag. These high school football coaches, who really don't know him as well as they might think, are fools for wearing sweater vests. The guy had to resign in disgrace and should not be "honored" in any way, shape or form. The actions from these coaches should not be looked upon as honorable in any way. These actions are an affront to what high school coaches should be teaching and promoting to their players. The coaches need to act like grown-ups in this case and they are acting like teenagers who don't have the maturity to understand how horrible a person like Tressel really is.If you want to talk scumbag, we can do that as well. See information on him, tat parlor and Federal investigation above.Most coaches who end up like Tressel are either scumbags, con men or cheaters. Tressel is the first coach ever to hit all three marks. I guess congratulations are in order.

No. His testimony with the NCAA shows he lied because he was trying to cover up his players actions at an establishment owned by a man being investigated for Federal drug charges by the Federal government. The tat parlor dealer was later convicted. He lied in his reasoning for why he did it. He said he didn't know what to do. That's BS. As the former Athletic Director at YSU, he would have known exactly what to do. You pick up the phone and call the University legal department and have a sit down with a lawyer. Tressel covered it up because he would have lost a chance at having a successful season.There have been plenty of OSU players picked up for breaking the law, including DUI, while Tressel was the coach. One of the players mentioned in the SI article is Bo Delande. He was picked up for DUI. The kid is a walk on and Tressel didn't give him the boot. Booting a walk on is a good way to send a message to the remainder of the players on the team about DUIs. Tressel chose not to send that message.

I think if you look at the Dispatch article I linked to, the ncaa isn't bothering to look into the more serious charges because they might find something. In order to prove something, one must actually make an attempt at proving that which they charge. It's sort of like a guy stealing a car, using that car to rob a drug store and running someone over driving too fast from the crime scene. After that happens, the local district attorney decides to prosecute the guy only on a speeding charge because looking into the other stuff would be too difficult.If I was Auburn or LSU or any other school who might be in trouble, I'd be happy about this recent report. It shows the ncaa really isn't going to look into the big name schools.The damage has been done to osu. They had to get rid of the guy who was willing to cheat his butt off in order to make osu the best team in the Big Ten. Now that all of this is out in the open, they won't be able to cheat their way to success and it will create a more even playing field in the Big Ten. Tressel will always be remembered as the guy who cheated his way to success and there will always be people thinking twice about the success osu had over the past ten years.Tressel cheated at YSU and won. He cheated at osu and won. Kind of makes you think......Maybe there is something to this cheating.