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I don't know how many people remember him, but there was a OLB in the mid-late 80s named Curtis Williams. An inch taller and around the same weight as a frosh. Same high school. Curtis was a very good player (started all four years at Akron) who was recruited by schools like UCLA and some really big names. Played some in the old World League or whatever it was called. There was a possibility of him being a Prop 48 so schools backed off (he ended up not being a Prop 48). Curtis was/is a good friend of mine. Has a Masters Degree from UofA and operates his own business.The new reminds us of the old. I guess that makes me old.I like skinny kids like this who the strength coach can take and make bigger his way. Not a fan of kids who come in with too much baby fat and they need to take the fat off first.

Don't lie. I know lying isn't frowned upon by osu fans, but don't apply that to one of my posts. I never said he had to know everything going on. It's just interesting to me that if this guy sticks around long enough, the crap piles up and there are a bunch of dirty people around him. Birds of a feather flock together.It has to be extremely disheartening for all osu fans to now know how hollow all of the accomplishments of the past ten years are. In many ways Buckzip, I pitty you. You have been made a fool of by one of the great con men of all time. You are in good company though. Almost an entire state was fooled along with you. It's quite sad in many ways.

Do your own research. There is this thing called Google and you can look things up with it.Secondly, put some thought into it. Lucas, MoC, Troy Smith, tatgate. All of these things go on around Tressel, yet he never seems to know anything about it. All the dirt around him and his hands are always clean. He learned well in Youngstown. I don't believe Tressel is a stupid guy so him not knowing about it can't be the answer. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Tressel is a walking Cheech and Chong movie.What really tripped Tressel up in this case was the Federal investigation. ncaa investigators are the Keystone Cops. Easy enough for Tressel to fool. A Federal Prosecutor is a whole other story. Tressel tried to hide the truth for as long as he could in order to win a few more games. He couldn't.

His cheating and his players getting paid at YSU was public knowledge 10 years ago. His relationship with the Pharmor executive was public knowledge. Things like the QB getting paid don't just happen. Especially $10,000 worth of getting paid. I know the former QB said Tressel didn't know, but he also doesn't know what the Pharmor guy and Tressel talked about when they were alone.Fact. He resigned in disgrace a few weeks ago, unless I missed something and he is still the osu coach. He resigned partly because he covered up information he knew about a Federal drug investigation. "Good people" don't do things like that.Fact. He put players on the field he knew would have been ruled not able to play had he provided what he knew to osu and then to the ncaa. He wanted to win more than doing the right thing.I don't believe this nonsense that Tressel was just a "good man who did something wrong". He did what he did because he believed he could get away with it. Woody was a good man who did something wrong against Clemson. Woody was at least an old man who was losing his senses. Tressel has no excuse other than his poor character.Dr. Drew once said that it takes years to cure people of opium addiction. I think it may take that long for lots of people from Ohio to get over Tressel addiction.

I don't like Tressel because I don't like people who portray themselves as pure as the new fallen snow and then turn out to be something else. Decent men like Joe Paterno have lost to this cheater for years now and I don't like the fact that a dishonorable person like Tressel would use cheating to get over on a decent person like Paterno. In a decent society, Tressel would be marched to a town square and have rotten produce thrown at him by the public.He is a cheater. He cheated at YSU paying players while being involved with a corrupt CEO of Pharmor (sp?). He cheated at osu covering up for players who would have not been on the field had he not covered up for their transgressions. He had to resign because of his cheating and lying. Those are only the things we know about. His time at osu is tarnished. His records mean nothing.He is a con man because he got almost an entire state to believe he was as pure as the new fallen snow and then showed himself to be a scumbag. These high school football coaches, who really don't know him as well as they might think, are fools for wearing sweater vests. The guy had to resign in disgrace and should not be "honored" in any way, shape or form. The actions from these coaches should not be looked upon as honorable in any way. These actions are an affront to what high school coaches should be teaching and promoting to their players. The coaches need to act like grown-ups in this case and they are acting like teenagers who don't have the maturity to understand how horrible a person like Tressel really is.If you want to talk scumbag, we can do that as well. See information on him, tat parlor and Federal investigation above.Most coaches who end up like Tressel are either scumbags, con men or cheaters. Tressel is the first coach ever to hit all three marks. I guess congratulations are in order.

No. His testimony with the NCAA shows he lied because he was trying to cover up his players actions at an establishment owned by a man being investigated for Federal drug charges by the Federal government. The tat parlor dealer was later convicted. He lied in his reasoning for why he did it. He said he didn't know what to do. That's BS. As the former Athletic Director at YSU, he would have known exactly what to do. You pick up the phone and call the University legal department and have a sit down with a lawyer. Tressel covered it up because he would have lost a chance at having a successful season.There have been plenty of OSU players picked up for breaking the law, including DUI, while Tressel was the coach. One of the players mentioned in the SI article is Bo Delande. He was picked up for DUI. The kid is a walk on and Tressel didn't give him the boot. Booting a walk on is a good way to send a message to the remainder of the players on the team about DUIs. Tressel chose not to send that message.

I think if you look at the Dispatch article I linked to, the ncaa isn't bothering to look into the more serious charges because they might find something. In order to prove something, one must actually make an attempt at proving that which they charge. It's sort of like a guy stealing a car, using that car to rob a drug store and running someone over driving too fast from the crime scene. After that happens, the local district attorney decides to prosecute the guy only on a speeding charge because looking into the other stuff would be too difficult.If I was Auburn or LSU or any other school who might be in trouble, I'd be happy about this recent report. It shows the ncaa really isn't going to look into the big name schools.The damage has been done to osu. They had to get rid of the guy who was willing to cheat his butt off in order to make osu the best team in the Big Ten. Now that all of this is out in the open, they won't be able to cheat their way to success and it will create a more even playing field in the Big Ten. Tressel will always be remembered as the guy who cheated his way to success and there will always be people thinking twice about the success osu had over the past ten years.Tressel cheated at YSU and won. He cheated at osu and won. Kind of makes you think......Maybe there is something to this cheating.

ArticleAbove is an article. People can decide for themselves whether or not the ncaa's investigation is thorough.I think the ncaa is going to end the investigation here for a couple of reasons:1. The Big Ten needs a big splash this season with Nebraska coming in. The story going into the first Big Ten Championship can't be about a team on probation not being able to play in the game. The NCAA knows it and I'm sure the Big Ten is putting a lot of pressure on the ncaa about this issue. I would if I worked at the Big Ten. The Big Ten has a ton riding on this season and everyone knows it.2. OSU becoming irrelevant makes the Big Ten as irrelevant as the ACC in college football. The Big Ten needs osu to be good just like the ACC needs Florida State to be good. The ncaa knows this and will do what they have to do to protect osu.3. The real problems at osu, the con man Tressel and Pryor, are now gone and any blame can be cast upon those two since they have no forum now to defend themselves. Those two are also not required to testify in front of the ncaa now that they are no longer in college athletics.4. If you read the note above on what constitutes lack of control, osu followed the rules. The trick in college athletics is to break the rules and then install some bureaucracy over the broken rules to make it look like the school is trying to correct the problem. Repeat cycle. osu does a good job of breaking rules and then making it look like they are trying to do something to stop breaking the rules. osu and their supporters don't really want to stop cheating...if they did, there wouldn't be so much interest in Urban Meyer. osu is a dirty program and doesn't mind the dirt as long as they can appear to clean it up with the right coach (a good looking white guy people from Ohio want to be conned by).5. Lastly and most importantly, the ncaa is going to stop the investigation now because if they dig any deeper, the are going to find what they already know is out there.The ncaa investigation is not thorough for a lot of reasons. Mostly, they don't want to dig deeper. None of them are good reasons unless you are osu and the Big Ten. The Big Ten will benefit just as much, if not more, than osu when the ncaa turns a blind eye to the infractions. In this landmark indecision, the ncaa will take the bcs one step closer to having it's own division and it's own set of rules.

LinkJabari plays for Calgary. They lost a close one last night. If you have NFL Network you could have saw it. No catches but gets to play quite a bit. Two very bad teams.

Can moderators maybe do something with this guy? He doesn't seem to get it at all.LOL..Yeah, ban me because I made a joke. I made a 3 word post and then the mob decided to attack and carry it on for multiple posts.. What do you think looks worse to a potential recruit, the 3 word post joke, or the ridiculous attack that followed?On other board jokes like that are made constantly and are usually added to. Here the insecurity takes over. More proof of the insecurity here. Wow.We are Akron. I am proud of that and you should be too. Sorry you have to be so defensive. I wasn't the one that posted on the thread last year about how I won't go to any games and support the team like so many posters here did. I live in Georgia and I always plan my trips home around the Akron homes schedule so I can go to at least 2 games a year. Yet I am attacked non stop here. Any recruit should want to come here. Young rebuilding team with great facilities. As the soccer team proves, if we have a winner, support will be there. We are in a hotbead for recruiting. The future is bright here. Stop being so damn defensive and have some fun with it.I'm done here now. Let the attacks over a joke continue. word

I don't know about the English Premier League. It will be what it is and it will be something we will have to get used to watching. I blame it on Eastern Michigan University.

Some of you need to understand something. We may have no choice in the matter. It may not be us dropping. It may be us getting dropped by the BCS level schools wheny they start their own division.There are a limited number of schools with a limited number of scholarships at the BCS level. If a player wants to play college football and all of the scholarships are taken up at the BCS level, he'll have to go somewhere. Our division would be the next best thing. It's already happening.With all that is going on in college football, change is needed. Either we make the change with like schools or we get handed the change. Better to make your own change than allowing someone to make changes for you.

Two points:1. We don't compete at the top level right now. We call ourselves D-1A, but we really aren't. My 20 inch penis agrees.2. They will just ask the taxpayers to pick up the tab...and they will. We are currently killing ourselves by other means.Lastly, I'll say it for the 1,000th time. It isn't being sent to another level. We won't go back to I-AA and will be at a higher level than YSU. It will be a level between bcs and I-AA. We need to live in the world of reality.

Now, now Z.I.P., I didn't say high school football. I said they should create a division where we and schools like us can better compete against one another.

I was thinking about this last night. I'd have to look up the number of I-A teams and the number of bowl games, but I'm not feeling that motivated today. It seems to me that half of all I-A teams make a bowl game. At the rate teams are going on probation, there could bea chance the NCAA would have to revise rules to allow sub.500 teams to go to a bowl.The move to another division isn't far off. I don't see how it will do anything other than help college football. Ohio high school football has six divisions and a playoff in each. Good competition is created at each division and the playoffs are fun. If Ohio can have six divisions for high school, I think the United States can have five divisions for college football. When I was in high school in the mid 80s, there were only something like five divisions and we were in the middle division. We didn't petition the state to move up to the highest division because we couldn't for one thing and we couldn't compete even if we could. The OHSAA did us a favor by making a division for us. The NCAA would be doing schools in conferences like the mac a favor by making them play in another division. The mac has been in business since the 1940s. It is obvious at this point MAClike conferences can't save themselves so the ncaa has to step in and save them.

A player coming to Akron needs to understand two things:1. Winning at Akron hasn't been easy.2. Turning this program into a winner will be difficult but it can be done quickly.If a kid can come to Akron with his eyes wide open about the challenges and is willing to accept those challenges, we have a good starting point. The kid who primarily wants the new stadium, the new workout facility, etc. is not what we need. Players coming to Akron right now have a chance at making a historic impact on a college football program in two years if they can do what it takes once they get here to make it a winner. I think that is a darn good reason for a kid to come to Akron.I would hope that when our coaches recruit, they would be this honest. The kind of player we would want would accept a great challenge like this. A mac program can have a two year turn around. Finding the right kids willing to accept the chanllenge is the key. Let's stop building and start winning.

Just as negative about the mac as I've always been. The league sucks. We suck. Everything about the mac sucks. There is no reason to believe we can't be the corn kernel atop the pile of crap that is the mac.

I've heard/read a lot of Zip fans say/write this, and I have even thought it myself. BUT a quick turnover, 3 and out, some kind of score on them should take all that "pent up energy" away from them. Momentum is crazy in football. He!!, it might even work in our favor if something positive happens for us early, they might start questioning themselves if they can win without the vest and the suspended kids. Granted, there is probably about a single digit percentage of this happening, but it could.I like where you are going with this DrZ. Maybe on the other side of the ball from tous there will be a team that got their teeth kicked in the year before and is sick of hearing about it and thinking about it. Maybe the Zips will come out MORE fired up than tosu.

I blame that more on the Athletic Department than the coach. Personally, I'm not interested in getting to know any coach. I just want to watch the games and see some winning.One of the assumptions being made on this board is the coach is going to do everything this year exactly the same as last year. I don't think he will...If he does, he should be fired. If he does some things differently and players execute better, there is no reason why this team can't win at least four games. It's the MAC for crying out loud.It's July. I'd like to hold on to some hope for a couple more months.

Last year I said it would be impossible to go 0-12 because of how bad the mac is. I was right. Granted, we came in right under the gun, but we still won a game.I don't believe we will lose to a I-AA team two years in a row as it would be like losing 12 games. With teams like EMU and Buffalo, we SHOULD have two more wins. Throw in Can't State as they are what they are. CMU isn't what they used to be. Maybe we catch that Florida team asleep on a trip to Akron. Anything can happen. At a the very least, we should win four. A little confidence and momentum and we win more. At the end of the day, everything is up to the coaches and players. All of this is possible, they just need to get the job done. The mac is terrible and we should take advantage of that fact. I'm not ready to write off another season mid July.

If we can't beat VMI, we'll lose 11 again.

Different players. Different circumstances. Different year.The northeast Ohio sports fan's mantra for 40+ years. As I said before, I will believe it when I see it.Hope springs eternal. Like I said, I reserve the right to change my mind later.

Different players. Different circumstances. Different year.

I reserve the right to change my mind later. This score is close though.OSU will not put up 55 on us. They could put more than 35 up, but I don't think they will. The loss of Pryor is going to hurt their offense badly, especially against top level teams. OSU is replacing a lot of players this season and that will show itself the first couple of games. Maybe we can get a couple of turnover to go our way. Combine that with the guys out because of the NCAA, the game become more competitive.Right now, I look for a 28-14 score. I don't see us being in the game in a meaningful way. A further prediction will be at least ten fans of either school will fall asleep from boredom. One half of these fans will hurt themselves as a result of the fall.There are so many questions about this team. We'll learn more about them the second game against Temple than we will against OSU. Temple is a more meaningful game than OSU. We need to come out ready to play and get our first MAC win of the season. I don't just mean compete well against Temple, I mean win the game. We'll be playing at home, at night and the crowd should be good. Anything can happen in the MAC. Temple may only be the second game of the season, but if there is such a thing as a must win, this is it.I learned from Bill Cowher that the most dangerous team is one with confidence and momentum. If we can beat Temple and VMI going into EMU, we can beat a bad program and come home for three straight. If we are 1-3 going into EMU, anything can happen because there is no confidence or momentum. Lose at EMU and we have a huge problem again. If we start out the season 1-4 with zero D-1A wins, look out...it will be a long season.

You'll never make it to the game. Kangaroos are very immobile in the snow with the giant feet and all. He will be falling down the whole way.