Dr Z Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 Jeremy Pargo put down a doozy of a dunk over Steve McNees against Akron, eliciting the game announcers to note that Steve McNees "is not quite a shot-blocker.''Click here to see the rest of the photosSide note: Ken+ gets 3 out of SI's 'Best Undrafted Free Agents Since '94' Quote
bandzip Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 That's the same view I had, except I closed my eyes right before it happened. Quote
Zipmeister Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 I think McNees is showing good hops in the photo. Plus he has positioned himself so that the Gonzaga player had to contort his body severely to make the dunk. Later in life when the guy can't bend over to tie his shoe laces, it will be Steve who did the damage. Quote
MDZip Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 And we got 1/2 second of Air Time in "One Shining Moment" last night. They showed Heyveldt yelling after he dunked with "Akron" quite visible on Nate Linhart. Well, quite visible meaning if you slowed it down to 1/15th speed and looked, otherwise you'd have no clue. Quote
skip-zip Posted April 7, 2009 Report Posted April 7, 2009 Yes, I saw the 1 second clip on One Shining Moment. I guess you have to take whatever publicity you can get.The SI photo of the dunk over McNees is not a good thing. It kinda illustrates a dominance in athleticism, which was the case.....but I think it implies that they toyed with "little Akron", which is not essentially what happened in that game. I know that as a player that you have to make a decision at that split second that the situation happens, and when you're on tv, it's exposed. But, I only wish that in that case we had moved up and engaged the ball handler before he could get up, even if it means that he dishes it to someone else for a dunk. You HAVE to do that in that kind of situation. And it was a defining moment in the final outcome of the game. But the picture certainly shows Steve elevating about...oh...18" inches or so?...not bad. Quote
GP1 Posted April 8, 2009 Report Posted April 8, 2009 I think McNees is showing good hops in the photo. Plus he has positioned himself so that the Gonzaga player had to contort his body severely to make the dunk. Later in life when the guy can't bend over to tie his shoe laces, it will be Steve who did the damage.Who are we kidding here? Wouldn't it just be easier to say that he looks like he has never played against a player with that type of ability before. The guy is gliding by him to make a dunk and he looks like he is bouncing on a trampoline at a childs birthday party. This photo spells nothing but B-A-D for the Zips program. There are three other guys in the photo loafing down the court to get a good look at the dunk. Quote
Zip Watcher Posted April 8, 2009 Report Posted April 8, 2009 Don't know if you saw the whole game .. but there wasn't any loafing done by the Zips vs. Gonzaga .. or pretty much versus any team in the month of March.Fact is, it's near impossible to look good as the lone defender back in a 3 on 1 fast break opportunity. There's nothing McNees could have done better or differently on that play. And it isn't BAD for the program .. it's a single photo from a game that told a much bigger story than the one play shown here.Judging a photo to say loafing illustrates disrespect. Can you now tell velocity from a still photo?Remember, the Zips are .. they didn't get to be that by loafing.Go Zips!!! B) B) Quote
Z.I.P. Posted April 8, 2009 Report Posted April 8, 2009 Don't know if you saw the whole game .. but there wasn't any loafing done by the Zips vs. Gonzaga .. or pretty much versus any team in the month of March.Fact is, it's near impossible to look good as the lone defender back in a 3 on 1 fast break opportunity. There's nothing McNees could have done better or differently on that play. And it isn't BAD for the program .. it's a single photo from a game that told a much bigger story than the one play shown here.Judging a photo to say loafing illustrates disrespect. Can you now tell velocity from a still photo?Remember, the Zips are .. they didn't get to be that by loafing.Go Zips!!! B) B)THANK YOU! Quote
GP1 Posted April 8, 2009 Report Posted April 8, 2009 Don't know if you saw the whole game .. but there wasn't any loafing done by the Zips vs. Gonzaga .. or pretty much versus any team in the month of March.Fact is, it's near impossible to look good as the lone defender back in a 3 on 1 fast break opportunity. There's nothing McNees could have done better or differently on that play. And it isn't BAD for the program .. it's a single photo from a game that told a much bigger story than the one play shown here.Judging a photo to say loafing illustrates disrespect. Can you now tell velocity from a still photo?Remember, the Zips are .. they didn't get to be that by loafing.Go Zips!!! B) B)Your paranoia about anything that might be said about the BB program is amazing. It's almost as if you have a man crush on the guys. The topic is about how the photo looks, not the entire game. The truth of the photo is this. Steve looks silly in the air. Everyone has looked silly before. He is a good player who was caught at the wrong time. Another truth is there are three Zips following the play. Someone who didn't see the game could say they were loafing. We know they weren't, but that is what the picture shows. Quote
Zip Watcher Posted April 8, 2009 Report Posted April 8, 2009 My contention isn't that Steve looks silly or not .. he does look silly. It certainly doesn't look good.My problem with your comments has ONLY to do with you deciding that the other guys are LOAFING. Which is pure folly. Criticize the team all you want, if that's your game .. fine .. but when people want to come in here and question their effort, or their heart .. I'm going to step up and challenge them on that point. That's what you did .. you questioned effort.This team is the 2009 as a result of effort, determination, and hard work. There are other components, certainly .. but the fundamentals of the program are built upon commitment, dedication and effort. And the Zips showed that night in and out down the stretch this season. I know the MAC media coverage sucks, especially for folks out of the area .. and you probably weren't able to see as many of the games in March as you'd have liked .. I get it. But simply because you didn't see effort, doesn't mean it wasn't there.Go Zips! B) B) Quote
skip-zip Posted April 9, 2009 Report Posted April 9, 2009 Fact is, it's near impossible to look good as the lone defender back in a 3 on 1 fast break opportunity. There's nothing McNees could have done better or differently on that play. And it isn't BAD for the program .. it's a single photo from a game that told a much bigger story than the one play shown here.You're joking...right? As I alluded to in my last post, you move up and engage the ball handler, foul him, try to draw a charge, try to get a hand on the ball if he passes, hope he throws it away, etc. Almost ANYTHING trumps letting the ball handler go all the way to the hoop uncontested. I feel bad that a good kid like Steve got caught in such an awkward photo, but I'm sorry to say that those kinds of things were taught to us as 12 years olds in camp, my friend. Quote
Zip Watcher Posted April 9, 2009 Report Posted April 9, 2009 Fact is, it's near impossible to look good as the lone defender back in a 3 on 1 fast break opportunity. There's nothing McNees could have done better or differently on that play. And it isn't BAD for the program .. it's a single photo from a game that told a much bigger story than the one play shown here.You're joking...right? As I alluded to in my last post, you move up and engage the ball handler, foul him, try to draw a charge, try to get a hand on the ball if he passes, hope he throws it away, etc. Almost ANYTHING trumps letting the ball handler go all the way to the hoop uncontested. I feel bad that a good kid like Steve got caught in such an awkward photo, but I'm sorry to say that those kinds of things were taught to us as 12 years olds in camp, my friend.I'm not joking .. friend.I encourage you to watch the play again, and tell me that Steve doesn't:#1 - Move up to engage the ball handler: he did.#2 - Try go get a hand on the ball: he did.Pargo blew by him with a great move that caught Steve in the air. He wasn't moving away from the play, he was defending the ball .. the ball handler beat him soundly with a superior athletic move. Quote
Dave in Green Posted April 9, 2009 Report Posted April 9, 2009 I sure wish I was talented enough to make an accurate, detailed analysis of all the players involved in a full basketball possession from a single still photo. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted April 9, 2009 Report Posted April 9, 2009 McNees got "posterized," there's no other way to put it. I'm sure the guys on the team will give him grief about it for years to come. That said, he played 32 minutes at point guard against a Top 20 team and committed ZERO turnovers. He really stepped up at years end when Humpty was injured. The elevation of his game was perhaps the biggest contributor to the Zips post-Toledo roughshod march though the MAC Tourney.Did he shoot 0-9 in the Gonzaga game? Sure. But there's not much you can do as a shooter but keep on shootin'. His shots were all good looks...he didn't force anything.One of my all time favorite dunks was John Starks driving baseline on Michael Jordan and stuffing it in his face. If you play the game, at some point you're gonna get posterized.If I'm McNees I send Pargo an SI and have him autograph it. Quote
Hilltopper Posted April 9, 2009 Report Posted April 9, 2009 Who said white guys can't jump! There sure is alot of air under Steves feet in that photo. I agree with ZW and CK, with out Steve stepping up his play late in the year, the Zips don't go the big dance. McNees gave everything he had that night, if thats not enough for some its their problem, not his. Quote
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