Quickzips Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 This team has no idea how to handle adversity on the road. We saw it in Buffalo when they folded for the last 6 minutes of the first half and we saw it again today when they absolutely crapped their pants in the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half. This team is absolutely unprepared to go on the road and play big games because, guess what, they HAVEN'T gone on the road, at all. You can win all the games in the friendly confines of the JAR that you want, but if you want to take that next big step you have to come out on the road and be able to perform better than that crap. Absolutely embarrasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsfan13 Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 I totally agree. The last two road games have been completely embarrassing. Is it me or was everyone absolutely ice cold when it came to shooting today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 I totally agree. The last two road games have been completely embarrassing. Is it me or was everyone absolutely ice cold when it came to shooting today?Not sure what your shooting percentage was, but C. Mc was 3 for 5 for Akron and Henry Ala was 3 for 3 for the opponents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip37 Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 I talked to Dan Peters, as of yesterday, no one has knocked on his door and stepped up to do the scheduling. Hummmmm, I wondsr why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted January 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 I talked to Dan Peters, as of yesterday, no one has knocked on his door and stepped up to do the scheduling. Hummmmm, I wondsr why?DAN PETERS JOB IS TO SCHEDULE. Zipsnations job is to critique this program. One major critique of this program is it's unwillingness to go on the road, even just a little bit and it's inability to step up when they do. If Dan Peters job is too difficult for him, maybe he needs to find a different job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 This team has no idea how to handle adversity on the road. We saw it in Buffalo when they folded for the last 6 minutes of the first half and we saw it again today when they absolutely crapped their pants in the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half. This team is absolutely unprepared to go on the road and play big games because, guess what, they HAVEN'T gone on the road, at all. You can win all the games in the friendly confines of the JAR that you want, but if you want to take that next big step you have to come out on the road and be able to perform better than that crap. Absolutely embarrasing.I also agree. I was listening to 850 yesterday and they were talking about OSUcks' scheduling. They mentioned how Pete Carroll at USC became known for playing anyone anywhere. Gonzaga is kind of the same way. I think we need to start playing meaningful schools (not YSU's or St. Francis's) on the road. I've said this all along: to be an NCAA tourney team, you have to schedule like one. We'll get Can't at our place. GO ZIPS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 23, 2010 Report Share Posted January 23, 2010 ..... I've said this all along: to be an NCAA tourney team, you have to schedule like one.For the Zips to be an NCAA tourney team, they have to win the MAC tourney, just like last year, weak schedule and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 ..... I've said this all along: to be an NCAA tourney team, you have to schedule like one.For the Zips to be an NCAA tourney team, they have to win the MAC tourney, just like last year, weak schedule and all.If you're content with leaving the MAC 'ship as our only way in, and then going one and out because we play MAC teams all year, and sub-MAC teams before that, then good for you. That's not enough for me, and it sure as hell isn't good enough for anyone in that locker room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I don't even care about the NCAA's, I would just like to go on the road for once and not get embarrased. Not watch our team crap down their legs for 8 minutes every game. Not watch us turn the ball over making stupid mistakes. Not watch us score 4 points in 9 minutes of play. Quite frankly, if this team gets to the NCAA's it is going to be a one and done again if we don't learn how to play away from the JAR. Mark my words. This team going on the road is BAD news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zip Watcher Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 You do realize the Zips have won on the road in conference, already, don't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickzips Posted January 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 You do realize the Zips have won on the road in conference, already, don't you?Barely, and against a team that has won 1 game in conference so far this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 As I always say, MAC East road wins are bonuses. And although OU stinks, we already have a bonus win under our belts. If we can pull out a road win again in the 2nd series of games against the East, we'll end up at 7-3 in our East games this year, and that'll be about what we could have expected, in my opinion. My concern is how badly we've played on the road against Buffalo and Can't. Without going back and looking at scores, I think it's been awhile since teams in our own league beat the crap out of us like that, espeically in two games just a week apart. We'll see how things go, but the lack of good road experience could be a factor. In addition, I think that possibly some teams in our league improved a little more than we did between last March and today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zip37 Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 Quick-- barely is as good as a blow-out, wins is wins is wins is wins...!Now if you want to talk about getting out coached, then I'll listen. Geno motivated his team more than KD did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I hate losing to the felons, but is this really something to hang our heads on? Win all our home games and split the roadies and we'll be right in the mix. We won the tournament as a 5 seed and lost it as a 1 seed so how much does seeding really matter? It's going to come down to how we're playing in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I hate losing to the felons, but is this really something to hang our heads on? Win all our home games and split the roadies and we'll be right in the mix. We won the tournament as a 5 seed and lost it as a 1 seed so how much does seeding really matter? It's going to come down to how we're playing in March.More specifically, the MAC champ will be decided on how you play in just a couple of games. If you recall, we were not playing well at the end of last season, with the losses to NIU, Valpo, Can't, and the home loss to BG....all coming in the last couple of weeks of the season.That's my entire issue. If the philosophy is that we play the entire season to warm up for an anything-can-happen MAC tournament, which puts us in a position to get a low seed, and an almost certain first-round loss, then I disagree with that philosophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 I don't think that it has too much to do with the number of road games, but more with the intensity of the crowd. If we had played St. Francis or UIC on the road instead of at home, would it really have prepared the team for what they saw against Can't or Buffalo, with the biggest crowds of the year for both those games? Would playing at more BCS teams have done it? I doubt it because the crowds there are uninterested in playing Akron so you don't get that intensity.The real problem is the lack of will. This is where losing Nate Linhart hurts the most. He was able to win games through sheer force of will. His desire to win spread to his teammates and made them more focused. Who do we have on the team right now that does that? It should be the seniors, but Chris McKnight doesn't have it and Conyers was never able to develop it because he hardly saw the floor until this season. So it's up to the underclassmen to become the leaders.My challenge is to Zeke and the underclassmen. Nate Linhart was a very quiet person, but his competitive drive was unmatched. He led by example, by getting the most floorburns and simply playing to win. This is what you need to become. Lead by example. When you're on the court or on the bench or in practice, you need to show the will to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 This team has no idea how to handle adversity on the road. We saw it in Buffalo when they folded for the last 6 minutes of the first half and we saw it again today when they absolutely crapped their pants in the first 8 minutes of the 2nd half. This team is absolutely unprepared to go on the road and play big games because, guess what, they HAVEN'T gone on the road, at all. You can win all the games in the friendly confines of the JAR that you want, but if you want to take that next big step you have to come out on the road and be able to perform better than that crap. Absolutely embarrasing.Agree.But when does this get corrected? Four games now where we are playing decent ball, only to go scoreless for long stretches.. I understand it happens to everyone...even the number one team in the nation. UT was putting it to UConn, only to get outscored 15-0 and lose big.I didn't see the Buffalo game, but yesterday's second half play is a real concern. Not only did we go scoreless, the players acted as if they haven't played together before. Turnovers, bad shots, too much dribbling and when Zeke was in, the decision making on whether to take the shot or pass to Zeke was terrible..Still cannot develop a go to guy to take and make a shot that will stop the run. KD called timeout down 12 and our play continued to be awful and the deficit grew to 20. Make a couple shots and get the deficit to 6 or 8 and maybe we have a different ballgame. We are offensively challenged as a team, unless the threes are going in.Making four three pointers in a game will probably never be enough...to win.Someone, please post an ABP on Brett McKnight's offense...we need his scoring.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 24, 2010 Report Share Posted January 24, 2010 The real problem is the lack of will. This is where losing Nate Linhart hurts the most. He was able to win games through sheer force of will. His desire to win spread to his teammates and made them more focused.Save the drama for your mamma.What was the Zips record after 17 games last season, with the great Nate Linhart bravely leading the way? Desire and leadership coarsing through his veins...the stuff legends were made of....(see, I can be dramatic too)...I'll tell you - it was 9-8. Focus on the facts - The Zips crapped down their leg plenty of times last season...just like this season. The epic scoring droughts are not something that just recently appeared. It is becoming an annual event, like Groundhog's Day.And before Mr. Super Nate Linhart Fan gets his panties in a bunch - Linhart was a solid player. I know that. My point is exactly as stated above. It is laughable to blame any big 2009-10 loss on the absence of Nate Linhart. Unless, of course, you want to give credit for every 2009-10 win to the fact that he's gone, and his absence has allowed this group of players to blossom.If Brett McKnight goes 16 points...2 points...18 points...4 points...we're going to go win...lose...win...lose. Nate Linhart has as much to do with it as Jami Bosley or Dru Joyce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I hate losing to the felons, but is this really something to hang our heads on?YES...losing to Can't is always a reason to hang your head. Especially when it was EMBARRASSING!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 My challenge is to Zeke and the underclassmen. Nate Linhart was a very quiet person, but his competitive drive was unmatched. He led by example, by getting the most floorburns and simply playing to win. This is what you need to become. Lead by example. When you're on the court or on the bench or in practice, you need to show the will to win.I dont know how you expect Zeke to step up when he's riding the bench in an important game that he was playing well in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 My challenge is to Zeke and the underclassmen. Nate Linhart was a very quiet person, but his competitive drive was unmatched. He led by example, by getting the most floorburns and simply playing to win. This is what you need to become. Lead by example. When you're on the court or on the bench or in practice, you need to show the will to win.I dont know how you expect Zeke to step up when he's riding the bench in an important game that he was playing well in.Dambrot's interview after the game indicated that he's ready to play Zeke more often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 The problem with having Linhart playing this year would be that he'd be on the floor for more than 30 minutes a game, which means that Conyers would be on the floor less than 10 minutes a game.To me, Conyers is exerting every bit as much will this season going after all those rebounds, scoring those points and shutting down opposing players as Linhart did last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Is there a name for the offense that Dambrot plays? I'm not being funny. Hipshire (motion). Huggins (cut & fill). Dr Z (pick and roll) Dambrot?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Is there a name for the offense that Dambrot plays? I'm not being funny. Hipshire (motion). Huggins (cut & fill). Dr Z (pick and roll) Dambrot?....I thought Dambrot ran a motion offense.It's that or a 3-3-drive (as in, shooting the 3 is the first two choices, the last one is to drive the lane). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Is there a name for the offense that Dambrot plays? I'm not being funny. Hipshire (motion). Huggins (cut & fill). Dr Z (pick and roll) Dambrot?....I thought Dambrot ran a motion offense. I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to basketball offensive schemes, but doesn't the motion offense involve a lot of screens? I don't see many screens now a days. I remember Andrick setting tons of screens in Hipshire's motion offense. Anybody else have more explanation to educate me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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