InTheZone Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Pretty self explanatory. Welcome to Akron Rob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbozeglav Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 At first I was kinda stunned about this thread... But after thinking about it for a bit, Im even more confused. Either you must REALLY hate Ianello or you have no faith in him becoming successful and leaving the program for something better (aka not being fired). The guy hasn't coached 1 real game yet, let alone an entire season, so Id give him the benefit of the doubt. Unless you have reasons to believe he'd be fired... in which case, I'd love to check out your time machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 I love the topic and voted for leaving when another chance presents itself. The history of Akron coaching is it is the "Graveyard of Coaches". The history of the MAC is a coach can win a championship relative quickly if he has the right people and things go his way. Buffalo did it and JD did it at UofA. Coach I, here is my advice. Listen closely because JD didn't take this advice and look what happened to him. Win something quickly and get the Hell out. If you don't win something within the first three years, get the Hell out because this is when the graveyard catches you. Your assistants will start to leave and you won't be able to hire good replacements. Your recruiting starts to fall apart. Leave before getting fired....you're not making that much money compared to the rest of the league so the income shouldn't be that hard to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-mann17 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 See, now this should have been moderated. More self loathing from ITZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 GP1 said: Listen closely because JD didn't take this advice and look what happened to him. Win something quickly and get the Hell out. If you don't win something within the first three years, get the Hell out because this is when the graveyard catches you. Your assistants will start to leave and you won't be able to hire good replacements. Your recruiting starts to fall apart. Leave before getting fired....you're not making that much money compared to the rest of the league so the income shouldn't be that hard to replace. I think you're mostly right. However - JD's recruiting didn't fall apart over his tenure. It actually improved. JD wanted to win quick, and cash in big-time. So took your advice and took a bunch of at-risk athletes (not student athletes). It was a valid theory at the time because the league's best programs were built on non-qualifiers, JUCO's and troubled talent (see early 2000's Toledo & NIU). Unfortunately for him, and Zips fans, all JD's athletes flunked out. He subsequently righted the ship and recruited a better caliber of student athlete. But you can't undo the damage of back-to-back horrific recruiting classes in a single season or two. Not in football. JD reaped what he sewed, and got canned last season. The clock expired. But iCoach will benefit. Kinda like Mack Rhoades benefited from Mike Thomas' work. If iCoach is any good, he'll start winning fairly soon. If he's good enough to leave after 3 seasons...we'll have a pretty magical 3 seasons of Zips football to remember. That's 3X more than the last 25 years combined...so I'd be pretty grateful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 It's hard enough being a Zips fan, I feel bad for the Zips fans that can't be positive from day one when a new coach and system are implemented. Good luck to you guys. I'm excited for the new staff and hope they put an entertaining brand of football on the field for their fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 I hope he emulates the coaches at CMU who have made that program into a consistent winner. If he does that, he deserves to move on and we will get another high upside assistant to replace him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Personally, I have nothing against Coach I. I wish him all the luck in the world. However, he will fail just as Brookhart did .. for the very same reason(s). Coach I has zero head coaching experience at any level. This is a killer. Even Lee Owens had high school head coaching experience. Brookhart, nada. Ianello, nada. Coach I's best chance is to surround himself with the best assistant coaches he can find. Not his buddies, his pals, or the friends of influential people. Go get real, qualified assistant coaches. Even then, silly blunders like refusing to utilize a pass rush (Owens), goofy defenses (Brookhart), keeping bad apples (Owens & Brookhart) will kill your chances. Straight up and down, smash mouth football with talented athletes will get the job down, not trick plays and guess and by golly. Do not wish for luck ... make luck with solid play. And for heaven's sake .. the doghouse should never be longer than thirty seconds. More talent, and Akron never has quite enough talent, goes wasting rotting in some coach's head for trivial matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 GoZips said: However, he will fail just as Brookhart did .. for the very same reason(s). Coach I has zero head coaching experience at any level. This is a killer. If that were a universal truth, why would any AD hire such a coach? Sincerely, Urban Meyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 What a bizarre thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsbandman Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Haha great thread! I'll say four years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UA Fan Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 I choose to ignore the history of Zips football...things are much easier that way. This is the first season of the rest of my Zip-fan life and i.coach is taking us to the Promised Land ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Can anyone name the last football coach at UA who was not fired/forced to resign/contract not renewed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 ZachTheZip said: Can anyone name the last football coach at UA who was not fired/forced to resign/contract not renewed? Gordon Larson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UADavid Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Dr Z said: It's hard enough being a Zips fan, I feel bad for the Zips fans that can't be positive from day one when a new coach and system are implemented. Good luck to you guys. I'm excited for the new staff and hope they put an entertaining brand of football on the field for their fans. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally B Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Not at all!!!!....... god i miss that good ole' NEOhio self depricating humor. I'll put a twist on it! He gives up.... citing lack of institutional support related to burgeoning soccer and riffle team budgets..... and goes back to ND as an assistant again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wally B Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Additional: I wish Ianello all the best but our motto is Fiat Lux (fat luck!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 I voted 5 seasons. Long enough to build a program we can get behind, long enough to show consistency in the moribund and craptacular MAC, long enough to get a great job as a HC at a BCS school. I'm as down as anybody on this program (HELLO TOM, WHEN IS THAT G-D TEAM STORE GOING TO OPEN?????) but I need to feel positive about the program or I'll simply stop paying attention to it. Here's hoping that the text that Ianello sent to Wistrcill immediately after the text about Liz Lemon that inadvertently went to Liz Lemon was one asking about WHEN THE HELL THE TEAM SHOP IS GOING TO BE OPEN. STZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 I voted 6 years, but it is presumably as soon as Mr. Wistrcill leaves for greener pastures. That seems to be the pattern. AD leaves to a bigger school before having time to actually get stuff done, claiming credit for things that happened through his predecessor, and the new guy wants to bring in his own head coach from his own circle of friends. Rinse, repeat. The key here is the AD. If Wistrcill stays long enough to be able to take credit for his work, then hiring Ianello could be counted among his successes. If he leaves, Ianello gets fired for not living up to the new standards of the new AD, even though those standards are the same as we've always had but since he's not from the new AD's list of contacts he doesn't get the extra latitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted April 28, 2010 Report Share Posted April 28, 2010 Why am I the only one concerned that we have a coach who is too stupid to send a simple text? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akron football Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 I agree ,for someone who is supposed to be one of the top recruiters in the country how does that happen. I'm sure he texted a few recruit's in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cms133@uakron.edu Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 GP1 said: Why am I the only one concerned that we have a coach who is too stupid to send a simple text? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 How long will it take for Ianello's replacement to be fired? How long will it take for InfoCision Stadium to crumble and be condemned? How long will it take for Zips fans not to think of asking questions like these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipboy Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 GP1 said: Why am I the only one concerned that we have a coach who is too stupid to send a simple text? I wonder whether it was an "accident" or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted April 29, 2010 Report Share Posted April 29, 2010 zipboy said: GP1 said: Why am I the only one concerned that we have a coach who is too stupid to send a simple text? I wonder whether it was an "accident" or not. Even worse if it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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