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I didn't see anyone reference this from the Plain Dealer.

Scuttlebutt II: Word is, the league's interest in UMass for football is a big leverage stick aimed at the Temple Owls. Temple must decide by the first of the year if it wants to extend its allegiance to the MAC for football, or end it after the 2012 season.

If the decision is to stay, then UMass will be welcomed to partner with the Owls, and (hopefully) the MAC will see fit to (a) get both to sign a long-term deal and (B ) have a seven-figure buyout clause for both if they leave early. The fallout would be another team added to a small MAC post-season bowl pool (three guaranteed) and Bowling Green once again becomes the pawn, moving from the MAC East Division back to the MAC West, where it began when the league first went to divisional play in 1997.

If Temple opts to end its association with the MAC, UMass would be put on the back burner until the league found another team, preferably one interested in all-sports status, which would then put some pressure on the Minutemen to join the league in all sports as well.

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Interesting that this news is let just as the MAC is considering expansion. GP1 will be happy. Dollar General expanding - to annouce 6,000 jobs. Of course that also reminds me of this. By the way, Temple was supposed to announce their intentions of continuing with the MAC by January 1st. Anyone hear anything? Nothing on the MAC web site.

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Interesting that this news is let just as the MAC is considering expansion. GP1 will be happy. Dollar General expanding - to annouce 6,000 jobs. Of course that also reminds me of this. By the way, Temple was supposed to announce their intentions of continuing with the MAC by January 1st. Anyone hear anything? Nothing on the MAC web site.

I tend to get the credit for calling the MAC the Dollar General of conferences, but it is actually the luckiest woman in the world, Mrs. GP1 who said, "Being commissioner of the MAC would be like being VP of Marketing for Dollar General. You could convince people to come to your store once to shop, but once they see the crap you are selling they won't come back." She said that a couple of years ago after the UofA vs. Miami football game that ended in something like a 3-0 score on national tv so all of America could see it. In the current economic situation, it appears Dollar General is doing well....at least better than the MAC. When things turn around though, straight to Target.

In pure economic terms, there has always been a market for bad stores like Dollar General. In my home town 30+ years ago, we had a store call Ben Franklin that was the Dollar General of the day. I'm not sure there ever has been or will there be a market for bad D-1A football. In fact, when Mrs. GP1 compared the MAC to Dollar General, it was probably an insult to Dollar General.

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Interesting that this news is let just as the MAC is considering expansion. GP1 will be happy. Dollar General expanding - to annouce 6,000 jobs. Of course that also reminds me of this. By the way, Temple was supposed to announce their intentions of continuing with the MAC by January 1st. Anyone hear anything? Nothing on the MAC web site.

I tend to get the credit for calling the MAC the Dollar General of conferences, but it is actually the luckiest woman in the world, Mrs. GP1 who said, "Being commissioner of the MAC would be like being VP of Marketing for Dollar General. You could convince people to come to your store once to shop, but once they see the crap you are selling they won't come back."

I never thought of it that way. If thats the case, them Temple won't come back

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By the way, Temple was supposed to announce their intentions of continuing with the MAC by January 1st. Anyone hear anything? Nothing on the MAC web site.

I used to think the ACC would be a good fit for Temple, but with the resurgence of Florida State, VA Tech still being good and UNC coming along, I don't see why they would want to bring down the quality of their league while it is on the upswing.

The Big East needs to decide what to do and soon. Temple might fall back there by accident.

At the end of the day, Temple has a pretty good set up in the MAC. They have everything they need to be a top program in the league and they are in a solid basketball conference. There doesn't seem to be a reason for them to change right now.

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Bad move if it is football only.

If they bring men's soccer and/or men's hoops along with them very good move.

If they go football only with a significant scheduling agreement for soccer and hoops ok move.

Umass is not going to 'step down' in basketball to come to the MAC. In 5 years they might be in the MAC championship game in fball.

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The MAC presidents are meeting tomorrow to finally make a decision on UMass.

And what happened?

The problem with another team in the MAC is someone might have to go. Lets see, who is the weakest team in the MAC...

DUH

Why would another team have to go? UMass makes the football divisions even again.

As for what happened, nobody knows yet. The meeting took place, but no announcement was made. Not even a whisper.

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The MAC presidents are meeting tomorrow to finally make a decision on UMass.

And what happened?

The problem with another team in the MAC is someone might have to go. Lets see, who is the weakest team in the MAC...

DUH

Why would another team have to go? UMass makes the football divisions even again.

As for what happened, nobody knows yet. The meeting took place, but no announcement was made. Not even a whisper.

In doing a little Google, it seems that Temple might leave.

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The MAC presidents are meeting tomorrow to finally make a decision on UMass.

And what happened?

The problem with another team in the MAC is someone might have to go. Lets see, who is the weakest team in the MAC...

DUH

Why would another team have to go? UMass makes the football divisions even again.

As for what happened, nobody knows yet. The meeting took place, but no announcement was made. Not even a whisper.

In doing a little Google, it seems that Temple might leave.

You aren't using the words "flying pigs" among your search terms are you?

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Nice find. Now that UMass will be joining for football, we'll have to wait and see whether the MAC might need to find a Temple replacement to eventually become a 14 team league. It would seem as though a lot hinges on what happens to Villanova's Big East football prospects (see comments to the article).

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If UMass is joining, then the MAC must be confident that Temple won't leave.

I don't like the idea of North-South divisions, however.

Really wouldn't change much from what I can tell.

East - Akron, Buffalo, Can't, Miami, Ohio, Temple, UMass

West - Ball State, BGSU, CMU, EMU, NIU, Toledo, WMU

In a North South allignment it would likely be:

North - NIU, WMU, CMU, EMU, Toledo, BGSU, Buffalo

South - Akron, Can't, Miami, Ball State, Ohio, Temple, UMass

So We would have Ball State and they would get Buffalo, Akron would then have its three rivals (Can't, Miami, and Ohio). If you look at the map, there isn't any other way to do a North South division.

MACLocations.png

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Next time Z-guins stops by our board, it will be interesting to see how he spins this one. Yet another 1-AA program steps up to the 1-A plate, while YSU football is content to try and achieve "tallest midget" status with whomever remains at the kiddie level. But, they complain MAC programs won't come to YSU to play them? UMass just showed them how it's done...on the field, not whining :cry: on a message board.

Fall trips to New England will be fun. I look forward to it.

Is UMass football any good? Probably middle-of-the-pack-MAC if they began playing today.

It will be sad to see them surpass the Zips after 2 seasons at the 1-A level (2012), when we've been at it for 25 years. Don't let it happen, iCoach.

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If UMass is joining, then the MAC must be confident that Temple won't leave.

I don't like the idea of North-South divisions, however.

Really wouldn't change much from what I can tell.

East - Akron, Buffalo, Can't, Miami, Ohio, Temple, UMass

West - Ball State, BGSU, CMU, EMU, NIU, Toledo, WMU

In a North South allignment it would likely be:

North - NIU, WMU, CMU, EMU, Toledo, BGSU, Buffalo

South - Akron, Can't, Miami, Ball State, Ohio, Temple, UMass

So We would have Ball State and they would get Buffalo, Akron would then have its three rivals (Can't, Miami, and Ohio). If you look at the map, there isn't any other way to do a North South division.

MACLocations.png

My understanding is that FB division reconfiguration would be done such that Temple and UMass are NOT in the same division. Having them in the same division would double the excess travel burden for the other teams in the division.

Look for Temple & UMass to be in opposite divisions when it's all played out.

Go Zips!

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How long has it taken Temple to play @ the JAR? They joined in 2005, and I don't recall ever seeing them grace our hallowed court? Thus the "UMass must play 2 MAC schools per year on the road" stipulation doesn't excite me all too much. Zeke will be in his 4th season with the Celtics before we ever see an AirTran flight dropping UMass players off on the CAK tarmac.

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