Akron September opponent's coach in hot water?

[GP1]

Again, no facts on your part. We all know about the tat stuff and him playing inelegible players. This has been out less than a year and you have been calling him a cheater a lot longer than that. Like I said, he made a bad mistake and paid for it. That doesn't make him a scumbag. Public knowledge at YSU, I never heard about it before. Please give me facts about this. I get it you hate the guy. I get it you obviously have a personal beef with him. So be it. I have given you every opportunity here to prove why he is a scumbag and cheat, before tatgate. You have given me nothing. Until you present facts, you are just another hater with nothing to back it up. You should apply at BSPN. They work without facts also.

Do your own research. There is this thing called Google and you can look things up with it.Secondly, put some thought into it. Lucas, MoC, Troy Smith, tatgate. All of these things go on around Tressel, yet he never seems to know anything about it. All the dirt around him and his hands are always clean. He learned well in Youngstown. I don't believe Tressel is a stupid guy so him not knowing about it can't be the answer. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Tressel is a walking Cheech and Chong movie.What really tripped Tressel up in this case was the Federal investigation. ncaa investigators are the Keystone Cops. Easy enough for Tressel to fool. A Federal Prosecutor is a whole other story. Tressel tried to hide the truth for as long as he could in order to win a few more games. He couldn't.

[Doug Snyder]

Again, no facts on your part. We all know about the tat stuff and him playing inelegible players. This has been out less than a year and you have been calling him a cheater a lot longer than that. Like I said, he made a bad mistake and paid for it. That doesn't make him a scumbag. Public knowledge at YSU, I never heard about it before. Please give me facts about this. I get it you hate the guy. I get it you obviously have a personal beef with him. So be it. I have given you every opportunity here to prove why he is a scumbag and cheat, before tatgate. You have given me nothing. Until you present facts, you are just another hater with nothing to back it up. You should apply at BSPN. They work without facts also.

Do your own research. There is this thing called Google and you can look things up with it.Secondly, put some thought into it. Lucas, MoC, Troy Smith, tatgate. All of these things go on around Tressel, yet he never seems to know anything about it. All the dirt around him and his hands are always clean. He learned well in Youngstown. I don't believe Tressel is a stupid guy so him not knowing about it can't be the answer. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Tressel is a walking Cheech and Chong movie.What really tripped Tressel up in this case was the Federal investigation. ncaa investigators are the Keystone Cops. Easy enough for Tressel to fool. A Federal Prosecutor is a whole other story. Tressel tried to hide the truth for as long as he could in order to win a few more games. He couldn't.

OK Let's drop this topic and move on. The Oracle has spoken and we now know all we need to know. Thank you oh mighty GP1

[Buckzip]

Again, no facts on your part. We all know about the tat stuff and him playing inelegible players. This has been out less than a year and you have been calling him a cheater a lot longer than that. Like I said, he made a bad mistake and paid for it. That doesn't make him a scumbag. Public knowledge at YSU, I never heard about it before. Please give me facts about this. I get it you hate the guy. I get it you obviously have a personal beef with him. So be it. I have given you every opportunity here to prove why he is a scumbag and cheat, before tatgate. You have given me nothing. Until you present facts, you are just another hater with nothing to back it up. You should apply at BSPN. They work without facts also.

Do your own research. There is this thing called Google and you can look things up with it.Secondly, put some thought into it. Lucas, MoC, Troy Smith, tatgate. All of these things go on around Tressel, yet he never seems to know anything about it. All the dirt around him and his hands are always clean. He learned well in Youngstown. I don't believe Tressel is a stupid guy so him not knowing about it can't be the answer. Where there is smoke, there is fire. Tressel is a walking Cheech and Chong movie.What really tripped Tressel up in this case was the Federal investigation. ncaa investigators are the Keystone Cops. Easy enough for Tressel to fool. A Federal Prosecutor is a whole other story. Tressel tried to hide the truth for as long as he could in order to win a few more games. He couldn't.

Thanks for proving my point. You have no facts. You just assume that a D1 coach knows everything that goes on with over 100 players on his team. MOC, proved to be nothing. MOC later came out and admitted it. Once the Troy Smith infoa was found out he was suspended, including the Texas game resulting in the OSU loss. Up until me nobody ever questioned you and just believed what you say. Now when asked for proof you fail. Like I said, I have given you every opportunity to prove what you say and all you come up with is rumors, heresay and disproven facts. I get it you hate the guy. Thanks for playing. Have a nice day.

[GP1]

Thanks for proving my point. You have no facts. You just assume that a D1 coach knows everything that goes on with over 100 players on his team. MOC, proved to be nothing. MOC later came out and admitted it. Once the Troy Smith infoa was found out he was suspended, including the Texas game resulting in the OSU loss. Up until me nobody ever questioned you and just believed what you say. Now when asked for proof you fail. Like I said, I have given you every opportunity to prove what you say and all you come up with is rumors, heresay and disproven facts.

Don't lie. I know lying isn't frowned upon by osu fans, but don't apply that to one of my posts. I never said he had to know everything going on. It's just interesting to me that if this guy sticks around long enough, the crap piles up and there are a bunch of dirty people around him. Birds of a feather flock together.It has to be extremely disheartening for all osu fans to now know how hollow all of the accomplishments of the past ten years are. In many ways Buckzip, I pitty you. You have been made a fool of by one of the great con men of all time. You are in good company though. Almost an entire state was fooled along with you. It's quite sad in many ways.

[Zipgrad01]

Here is a great read from January of 2007 that is right in line with your back and forth conversation. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/03/sports/n.../03tressel.html

[Dave in Green]

Boiled down to its most simplistic terms, the NCAA ruling essentially says that responsibility for all of tOSU's indiscretions lies with Jim Tressel, and that the university has not in any way contributed to any of Tressel's transgressions.Juries also found O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony innocent, and many people disagreed with those verdicts. So it's no surprise that many people have doubts about the NCAA's verdict on tOSU.No one really knows what kind of winking and nodding may or may not have gone on between Tressel and tOSU behind the scenes. If we can't know all the facts, we are left to believe what we want to believe.Given all the above, there's absolutely nothing wrong with cynics believing that Tressel did exactly what tOSU encouraged and expected him to do from the day they recruited him as their football coach.And there's absolutely nothing wrong with tOSU fans and supporters getting angry and upset that anyone could be so cynical as to believe the above.And there's absolutely no end to the debate, because no one outside of those who were directly involved really knows what happened.

[Buckzip]

Thanks for proving my point. You have no facts. You just assume that a D1 coach knows everything that goes on with over 100 players on his team. MOC, proved to be nothing. MOC later came out and admitted it. Once the Troy Smith infoa was found out he was suspended, including the Texas game resulting in the OSU loss. Up until me nobody ever questioned you and just believed what you say. Now when asked for proof you fail. Like I said, I have given you every opportunity to prove what you say and all you come up with is rumors, heresay and disproven facts.

Don't lie. I know lying isn't frowned upon by osu fans, but don't apply that to one of my posts. I never said he had to know everything going on. It's just interesting to me that if this guy sticks around long enough, the crap piles up and there are a bunch of dirty people around him. Birds of a feather flock together.It has to be extremely disheartening for all osu fans to now know how hollow all of the accomplishments of the past ten years are. In many ways Buckzip, I pitty you. You have been made a fool of by one of the great con men of all time. You are in good company though. Almost an entire state was fooled along with you. It's quite sad in many ways.

Like I said, you have shown nothing. Keep trying. You keep using hyperbole and spewing misinformation. You stated that I am ok with lying, when in this very thread I said he deserved to be fired for the cover up and lying about it. Fail on your part. You have also stated that I think he is pure, when in this very thread I have stated I don't put him on the pedestal that some OSU fans do. Fail on your part.It really makes me laugh when you constantly ignore every line in a thread where I prove you wrong and then come up with some new line of BS. You just pick and choose what you want to respond to. You really don't see that you are doing that. All I asked was for you to prove to me why he is a cheat and a scumbag like you have claimed for many years now. I gave you every opportunity to prove he was a scumbag and a cheat. You failed miserably. Like I said in another post, you are the only one smart enough to know what a scumbag and cheat he is. The rest of the world, except GP1 and a few other haters here don't know what you know. You must think a lot of yourself. Nobody but the mighty GP1 knows what the man is all about. ROFLMAO at you. I feel sorry for you to be fooled by your own arrogance, paranoia and petty jealousy. You are a very small man. I will say a prayer for you tonight. Keep at it now GP1. Keep trying to convince yourself and others that you have credibility. You have none. You have failed and I am now done with this. Maybe you can get a job at Fox or MSNBC or BSPN. They like people that can say whatever they want hoping that nobody calls them on it. However, when asked to prove their points with facts they change their tune and try to avoid the questions. Perhaps next you will say the man killed puppies and sacrificed babies for wins. Next.

[Buckzip]

Boiled down to its most simplistic terms, the NCAA ruling essentially says that responsibility for all of tOSU's indiscretions lies with Jim Tressel, and that the university has not in any way contributed to any of Tressel's transgressions.Juries also found O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony innocent, and many people disagreed with those verdicts. So it's no surprise that many people have doubts about the NCAA's verdict on tOSU.No one really knows what kind of winking and nodding may or may not have gone on between Tressel and tOSU behind the scenes. If we can't know all the facts, we are left to believe what we want to believe.Given all the above, there's absolutely nothing wrong with cynics believing that Tressel did exactly what tOSU encouraged and expected him to do from the day they recruited him as their football coach.And there's absolutely nothing wrong with tOSU fans and supporters getting angry and upset that anyone could be so cynical as to believe the above.And there's absolutely no end to the debate, because no one outside of those who were directly involved really knows what happened.

All lies. GP1 knows everything...ROFLMAO.

[Doug Snyder]

Boiled down to its most simplistic terms, the NCAA ruling essentially says that responsibility for all of tOSU's indiscretions lies with Jim Tressel, and that the university has not in any way contributed to any of Tressel's transgressions.Juries also found O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony innocent, and many people disagreed with those verdicts. So it's no surprise that many people have doubts about the NCAA's verdict on tOSU.No one really knows what kind of winking and nodding may or may not have gone on between Tressel and tOSU behind the scenes. If we can't know all the facts, we are left to believe what we want to believe.Given all the above, there's absolutely nothing wrong with cynics believing that Tressel did exactly what tOSU encouraged and expected him to do from the day they recruited him as their football coach.And there's absolutely nothing wrong with tOSU fans and supporters getting angry and upset that anyone could be so cynical as to believe the above.And there's absolutely no end to the debate, because no one outside of those who were directly involved really knows what happened.

What you have said is 100% correct. The examples you give are good expect for one thing...we have less information than in those publicized court cases. So there is no real proof that anything more took place. Just speculation. The problem is that one of our board also graduated from OSU. If you take some of the more passionate Zips fans on this board and extrapolate that passion to BuckZip for OSU…you can see where he may find issue with the debate here. He may also be a tad bit sensitive…but others here are just as sensitive about other issues. I don’t know BuckZip. But he did graduate from UofA and I think we should have cut him a little slack and extended a little more understanding. That did not happen…in fact I think he was often baited here by fellow Zips fans. Unfortunately he often took the bait. It would have been far better for him just to ignore everybody and say nothing. In the end…he was vindicated. He said Tressel lied and had to go….and that is what happened. He should have left it at that…and he should have been given some respect and understanding.In the end…it still is a free country and we can say and believe what we want. I just wish we would be a little more thoughtful sometimes.

[Doug Snyder]

Is it Miller time yet???

[Buckzip]

Boiled down to its most simplistic terms, the NCAA ruling essentially says that responsibility for all of tOSU's indiscretions lies with Jim Tressel, and that the university has not in any way contributed to any of Tressel's transgressions.Juries also found O.J. Simpson and Casey Anthony innocent, and many people disagreed with those verdicts. So it's no surprise that many people have doubts about the NCAA's verdict on tOSU.No one really knows what kind of winking and nodding may or may not have gone on between Tressel and tOSU behind the scenes. If we can't know all the facts, we are left to believe what we want to believe.Given all the above, there's absolutely nothing wrong with cynics believing that Tressel did exactly what tOSU encouraged and expected him to do from the day they recruited him as their football coach.And there's absolutely nothing wrong with tOSU fans and supporters getting angry and upset that anyone could be so cynical as to believe the above.And there's absolutely no end to the debate, because no one outside of those who were directly involved really knows what happened.

What you have said is 100% correct. The examples you give are good expect for one thing...we have less information than in those publicized court cases. So there is no real proof that anything more took place. Just speculation. The problem is that one of our board also graduated from OSU. If you take some of the more passionate Zips fans on this board and extrapolate that passion to BuckZip for OSU…you can see where he may find issue with the debate here. He may also be a tad bit sensitive…but others here are just as sensitive about other issues. I don’t know BuckZip. But he did graduate from UofA and I think we should have cut him a little slack and extended a little more understanding. That did not happen…in fact I think he was often baited here by fellow Zips fans. Unfortunately he often took the bait. It would have been far better for him just to ignore everybody and say nothing. In the end…he was vindicated. He said Tressel lied and had to go….and that is what happened. He should have left it at that…and he should have been given some respect and understanding.In the end…it still is a free country and we can say and believe what we want. I just wish we would be a little more thoughtful sometimes.

I would be just as passionate about defending UA if the need was there. I don't get Akron hate on other boards though. They ask me questions about Akron and what can be expected. A lot congratulated Akron on the soccer NC and wish their school was as good as Akron at soccer. The petty crap isn't there. And there are 10000 x more posters there than there are here. Literally. There are 6-7 boards for OSU that all have more traffic than this site.As for debate, this isn't a debate. This thread was started with the sole purpose of bashing OSU. They typical crowd will disagree with that, but all you have to do is read this thread and it is obvious. There was no debate intended or ongoing. This was just 29 pages of let's say how dirty and how much cheating OSU does and how much of a scums their fans and coaches are. That is all this thread was for. Every time one of the rags posted something new it was posted here immediately. Of course most of that has been proven to be BS and you don't hear anyone saying anything about that. This is the site for UA sports. It's very sad that the thread about another schools issues is longer than the threads about UA in the NCAA tourney and soccer NC combined. That is very disturbing to me.I wish I could come here and talk Akron sports without the other BS, but that's part of the game I suppose. As far as taking the bait, that's pretty funny. There are constant OSU bashing posts here. I respond to about 10% of them. I just let the guys spew their hate and laugh at it. Out of 29 pages on this thread I have few responses up until these last 2 pages. There are only a few posters here that always start the crap, but they are the loud minority. I always love the posts from the guy that claims he has a lot of OSU friends and always makes up BS about what they are saying and how they are whining and crying. I laugh every time I read his posts because I know it is 100% fabricated.

[Dr Z]

This thread was started with the sole purpose of bashing OSU.

This thread was started because the first team on our schedule this year (some call them opponents) had off field issues that put the chance of the head coach not being on the field when we played them. The subtitle of the thread changed from "might not" to "will not" when it was for sure. I did this to keep all the discussion in one thread.The thread also includes links predicting the coach getting the boot.The thread also includes the actual copy of the email that was sent from Archie to Tressel that started the whole process.The thread also includes many contributing people's opinion on why they think what the coach did was wrong.The thread also includes the unethical conduct code which OSU was thought to violate, and then cleared of.To say this thread was started for "the sole purpose of bashing OSU" is ignorant.

[Dave in Green]

What ZN.O really needs is a poster who graduated from both UA and Can't, and who could serve as an advocate for the Golden Felons when they are unfairly treated on this Zips fan forum.

[Blue & Gold]

What ZN.O really needs is a poster who graduated from both UA and Can't, and who could serve as an advocate for the Golden Felons when they are unfairly treated on this Zips fan forum.

Well said.

[Buckzip]

This thread was started with the sole purpose of bashing OSU.

This thread was started because the first team on our schedule this year (some call them opponents) had off field issues that put the chance of the head coach not being on the field when we played them. The subtitle of the thread changed from "might not" to "will not" when it was for sure. I did this to keep all the discussion in one thread.The thread also includes links predicting the coach getting the boot.The thread also includes the actual copy of the email that was sent from Archie to Tressel that started the whole process.The thread also includes many contributing people's opinion on why they think what the coach did was wrong.The thread also includes the unethical conduct code which OSU was thought to violate, and then cleared of.To say this thread was started for "the sole purpose of bashing OSU" is ignorant.

Nice try, but even this posts proves it. You just can't see it. You are admitting what this post was for. LOLIf it was simply to talk about our "opponents" coach not being there, it would have pretty much stopped with that. It wouldn't have had all that other garbage.Again, nice try. You know I almost apologized for typing that before I saw your edited post. Good thing I didn't.

[Doug Snyder]

What ZN.O really needs is a poster who graduated from both UA and Can't, and who could serve as an advocate for the Golden Felons when they are unfairly treated on this Zips fan forum.

I am here because I am huge UofA fan. I am starved for information about the Zips athletic programs. What interests me is: who we are recruiting, how Treadwell is doing, insight on Nicely vs Moore and a thoughtful recap/analysis of those who saw a game I was unable to attend. The things I am here for I have little to offer to the debate because I am normally not in the area and no clue as to what is going on...other that what is written in the papers. I did not realize that this site was also for treating other schools unfairly, trashing other schools academic programs (those who do not compete with UofA in sports) and calling fellow Zips "ignorant", "fool", "stupid" and many other personal things because they attended another school and speak up in defense.I know I am old, attended another school and live out of the area....but I root for Can't when they are in the NCAA tournament...it can only enhance the rivalry, MAC and NE Ohio. I root for ALL the area and Ohio schools. And I believe Ohio has a great undergraduate school system…public and private. I will eventually return to Ohio because I want my daughters to go to school here. Great people…good schools and more. Many leave Ohio but few voluntarily return. But I love Ohio and will choose to return.I know there will always be a debate on players, coaches and the type of program we should have and how much money we should be spending. But for me...there is way too much personal bashing and trashing other schools. Even Ex-Zip Charlie Frye gets trashed here.I will have to re-evaluate things because I value your input...maybe this is not for me. As for this thread… BuckZip is wrong. I do not believe it was started to trash OSU. He should just keep quiet and be happy with the knowledge that most athletes would choose OSU if given the chance (except the current soccer program). My nephew did just that after playing 3 years with the Zips.

[Hilltopper]

What ZN.O really needs is a poster who graduated from both UA and Can't, and who could serve as an advocate for the Golden Felons when they are unfairly treated on this Zips fan forum.

This seems a little black and white to me. Somewhere in the middle, I'm sure we can all find the truth.

[johnnyzip84]

What ZN.O really needs is a poster who graduated from both UA and Can't, and who could serve as an advocate for the Golden Felons when they are unfairly treated on this Zips fan forum.

I am here because I am huge UofA fan. I am starved for information about the Zips athletic programs. What interests me is: who we are recruiting, how Treadwell is doing, insight on Nicely vs Moore and a thoughtful recap/analysis of those who saw a game I was unable to attend. The things I am here for I have little to offer to the debate because I am normally not in the area and no clue as to what is going on...other that what is written in the papers. I did not realize that this site was also for treating other schools unfairly, trashing other schools academic programs (those who do not compete with UofA in sports) and calling fellow Zips "ignorant", "fool", "stupid" and many other personal things because they attended another school and speak up in defense.I know I am old, attended another school and live out of the area....but I root for Can't when they are in the NCAA tournament...it can only enhance the rivalry, MAC and NE Ohio. I root for ALL the area and Ohio schools. And I believe Ohio has a great undergraduate school system…public and private. I will eventually return to Ohio because I want my daughters to go to school here. Great people…good schools and more. Many leave Ohio but few voluntarily return. But I love Ohio and will choose to return.I know there will always be a debate on players, coaches and the type of program we should have and how much money we should be spending. But for me...there is way too much personal bashing and trashing other schools. Even Ex-Zip Charlie Frye gets trashed here.I will have to re-evaluate things because I value your input...maybe this is not for me. As for this thread… BuckZip is wrong. I do not believe it was started to trash OSU. He should just keep quiet and be happy with the knowledge that most athletes would choose OSU if given the chance (except the current soccer program). My nephew did just that after playing 3 years with the Zips.

Ooops! I know, you're also a Miami grad but still

[zips4ever2008]

I don't like OSU to begin with but the way the NCAA is handling these investigations and how hard to punish the schools is really irritating me. I actually sent the NCAA an email to voice my concerns but I highly doubt they care and would take the time to respond. I wanted to vent my growing anger towards them and how they handle investigations. It took them how long to find information on USC? They punish USC was loss of schalorships, post season bans, vacated wins and all because of one football and basketball player. If the NCAA ever wants to clean up college football then they have to be consistent with their penalties. You can't harshly punish one school and not the other. Hit these schools hard with what will hurt the most and that is losing schalorships and post season bans. OSU's self inflicted penalties of probation and vacating wins from last year is a joke. You wonder why you get no respect? OSU needs to grow-up. Man up and take responsibility. Accept losing schalorships and facing postseason bans for at least two years. If this kind of thing ever happened to Akron, what do you think the NCAA would do? I would bet they would come down hard. I guess we'll wait to see in August, but if the NCAA doesn't do something drastic to OSU, I don't know how much credibility they would have. I don't want to see OSU go unpunished just because it's OSU. I can see the backlash if that were to happen. All I want is consistency in punishment.

[GP1]

It took them how long to find information on USC? They punish USC was loss of schalorships, post season bans, vacated wins and all because of one football and basketball player. If the NCAA ever wants to clean up college football then they have to be consistent with their penalties. You can't harshly punish one school and not the other.

They investigated and threw the book at USC because USC did not cooperate with them. All a school needs to do is break the rules, self report, adopt a policy that says they won't do it again and they are largely off the hook for serious punishment. The ncaa is going to go easy on osu because they want to go easy on them. They aren't going to find anything else out because they aren't going to look for it. Like I said before, the Big Ten has a lot riding on this season. Nebraska is coming in the league and they are having their first championship game. The ncaa isn't going to let their fourth best league flop around as they ring in a new era. The story can't be about osu and if the ncaa continues to investigate, it becomes about osu's problems and not what they really want to focus on.The ncaa can do whatever it wants to do. There are no laws governing the ncaa so they can make them up as they go along. I actually think we are entering into a time when the ncaa will be handing out less stiff penalties to teams that break rules.Taking scholarships away from osu wouldn't hurt them. Would a coach rather have ous's 65 scholarship players or Minnesota's 85 players? If the ncaa really wanted to hurt them, they would take away a bowl game or two. There is a lot of stink around the osu program. Taking away bowl games keeps the story going for a year or two. The ncaa, big ten and osu all need this story to go away. It is larger than osu. I'm sure schools like LSU and Auburn are watching closely and expecting a light punishment as well.

[Spin]

Spoken like a true Buckeye honk.What's the old saying? Walk a mile in an Ohio mid major fan's moccasins.Steelers fans wonder why we get sick and tired of their arrogance and hyperbole. They've never looked in the mirror.And I'm certain if we looked around Buckeye forums, we'd find somebody making jokes about MeatChicken, making fun of Akron and Toledo, blah blah blah.

[Spin]

Taking scholarships away from osu wouldn't hurt them. Would a coach rather have ous's 65 scholarship players or Minnesota's 85 players? If the ncaa really wanted to hurt them, they would take away a bowl game or two.

Don't be silly. Everyone makes $$,$$$,$$$.cc when the Buckeyes are n a bowl game... It would take a lot for them to cut off that gravy train.

[Dr Z]

The ncaa is going to go easy on osu because they want to go easy on them. They aren't going to find anything else out because they aren't going to look for it.

Outside The Lines addresses this issue this morning. Pat Forde and Bruce Hooley speculate on the upcoming Columbus State penalties.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I had gained a lot of respect for BuckZip as he kept quiet on ZN.o regarding this topic. Then Trimmy10 typed one of the all-time ill-conceived lines in the history of the board -- "Where is BuckZip for some perspective when you need it?"

The flood gates opened, and BuckZip hasn't shut up, defending his Buckeyes on the Zips message board ever since. Thanks for issuing the carte blanche, Trimmy.

The facts are as big and fat as any K.e.n.t. cheerleader. There's no debate. The Ohio State football program was run by a hypocrite liar cheat. That's all the perspective you need.

Go Zips! Beat The Dirt Bag's Remnants on September 3rd!

[GP1]

The ncaa is going to go easy on osu because they want to go easy on them. They aren't going to find anything else out because they aren't going to look for it.

Outside The Lines addresses this issue this morning. Pat Forde and Bruce Hooley speculate on the upcoming Columbus State penalties.

Thanks for the links. Having trouble with the swimming through the sea of crap that is twitter and the Pat Forde posts. Bruce Hooley doesn't seem to have anything new. If you can offer more help, it would be appreciated.

As far as the OTL report, nothing new there. It all goes back to what the ncaa wants to investigate. They are done investigating and giving penalties because that is what they want to do. tOSU AND the Big Ten is going to be protected by the ncaa. I don't see how the ncaa can go any other way. The professor from OU is correct. I would have loved for the reporter, or any reporter, to ask someone like him to comment on whether or not the ncaa will come down light to protect the Big Ten in a very important season.

One of the most interesting points about what makes Tressel so corrupt is his purposeful lack of curiosity about what was going on around him. If you never ask questions, you never know. Pete Carroll did the same thing at USC. Both saw problems and did nothing to look into those problems. That is a form of corruption. It is a form of dishonesty without creating an evidence trail that would make him proved to be dishonest.

The culture Tressel created was interesting as well. There are two ways to look at the whole "God and family" fraud he spewed. One way, the way tosu defenders look at it, is "God and family" is a way to create teamwork and a group of people who want to help each other out to win games. That's all well and good. Another way to look at it, and it is possible to fall into both categories, is when someone in the family does something wrong, we won't do anything that might hurt them or the family. Keep your mouth shut and keep it in the family. This is how the mafia looks at things. Tressel learned well in Youngstown. We'll use the "God and family" idea to both win games and keep everyone out of trouble. In a lot of ways, the culture Tressel created was very successful. The rule breaking was pretty severe and tosu had a hand in the rule breaking establishing early on that it was ok to sign autographs for money.

Lastly, right on the money CK. Tressel was a con man and he conned almost an entire state.