Akron September opponent's coach in hot water?

[FBJunkie]

no TP, no #1 WR, no Tressel...hmm looks like we are getting as good of a chance as ever.

[GoZips]

You folks have all missed the point(s).

ALL the sanctions imposed on tOSU have come from the AD. The NCAA has not had any hand

in determining punishment up to this time. The NCAA doe not tip toe around and set up the best deal

for the offenders. Rarely does the NCAA, "ok, boys, you hit yourself hard enough in the face with the

hammer", let culprits off this easy.

As for this being minor, (cough, cough), players suspended for five games (nearly half a season), the

head coach stepping aside (for two patsies) for two games and a personal docking of a quarter million

dollars of his pay does not even come close to punishment for a (sic) minor infraction. Who the hell

are you trying to kid? tOSU is smacking themselves in the face with the hammer in hopes that the

dreaded NCAA lets them off with just this damage. More likely is that we are looking at a tOSU iceberg.

Mr. Rogers, er, the sweater, has a long and colorful history of cheating. Tossing words like character

and integrity around describing him is a blatant insult to all men of real character.

The reputational damage done to tOSU will take years to repair. But, alas, football gin mills really

do not give a damn so long as the money keeps pouring in. tOSU sheep, er, faithful will turn a blind

eye and continue to fork over all the shekels needed to keep tOSU in the green.

Suggestion: Let the Pig Ten (burp) choose which FOUR conference games the sweater has to be not

involved with. That is a punishment that will send shock waves through the faithful.

Oh, for you that doubt it: I personally loath tOSU.

[Dr Z]

no TP, no #1 WR, no Tressel...hmm looks like we are getting as good of a chance as ever.

2001 was our best chance. We were a missed interception that turned into a TD away from pulling off that upset. I don't think we have as many NFL players on this team as we did on the 2001 team.

Give Tressel the Boot --From Columbus campus newspaper

Don't Buy Tressel's Explanation

Let's be honest: No one but the most scarlet-and-gray blinded diehard could possibly buy the explanation being given by the coach and his employer for an inexplicable lack of judgment that will cost him at least two games and $250,000. It's thinner than the Buckeyes' depth chart for their first five games next season.

Bad Stuff Follows Tressel Around?

And then there is history, which is easy to bring up in this case. Two years ago the Columbus Dispatch reported that Ohio State had reported 375 NCAA violations from 2000-09, the most of 69 schools surveyed by the newspaper. Tressel was hired in 2001 at Ohio State shortly after the Youngstown State program he oversaw was penalized. The NCAA said his quarterback Ray Isaac was paid in excess of $10,000 by a member of the school's board of trustees. Don't forget the Maurice Clarett fiasco or Troy Smith having to sit out two games after taking $500 from a booster. Either a lot of bad stuff follows Tressel around or there is definitely a pattern here.

OSU Doesn't Care About Rules, Just The Golden Goose

When presented with the nugget that essentially undermines everything the school says it stands for, Tressel said, "I don't think less of myself at this moment." Why should he? He's bank, and he knows it. And Gee, the man who once disbanded Vanderbilt's athletic department because it wasn't in keeping with what the role of athletics should be at a university, said when asked if he ever thought about firing Tressel, "No, are you kidding me? Let me be very clear. I'm just hoping the coach doesn't dismiss me." And that's the power of the truth when confronted by the truth about power. Ohio State no longer cares that you realize that it's just another amoral jock foundry. Hell, it's a wonder Gee didn't just raise his middle finger at the audience and say, "Here you go. Fire this."

Tressel Tarnishes Columbus

"The reputation of a thousand years may be determined by the conduct of one hour." Ohio State coach Jim Tressel included that Japanese proverb on Page 193 of his book, "The Winners Manual For The Game of Life." Eight pages later, there's this nugget from Henry Wadsworth Longfellow: "It takes less time to do the right thing than to explain why you did it wrong." In 10 years as the Buckeyes' coach, Tressel has often showed us his teams can't win big games. On Tuesday night, Tressel showed us he can't win the big news conferences, either.

[GoZips]

Give Tressel the Boot --From Columbus campus newspaper

You think I was talking out my hairy arse when I stated that the typical tOSU fan would fall on the sword?

Read The Lantern and especially the posted comments, which by the way are growing rapidly.

The posters want the article writer sacked; not Mr. Rogers. They do not care about cheating so long

as it benefits them with wins. Integrity be damned; vote for the Vest.

[Dr Z]

OSU has released the emails

[cornbread]

Being from Columbus, maybe I am being too easy on The Vest, but I think it is easier for wholesome people to mess up when it comes to bad things.

Kind of like a college football version of Jerry Lundegaard.

Excellent opportunity for Akron to Twist the Knife this September.

[johnnyzip84]

The Beacon's Jason Lloyd isn't buying it. There's no way this story ends here. I'd say it's quite likely that Tressel has coached his last game in Columbus.

[mes102]

I don't want to sound like sour grapes, but this doesn't surprise me. I remember what he did towards the recruitment of Erick Howard. I don't want a guy that won't stay to his commitment like Howard did, but Tressel didn't help.

If my memory serves me correctly, didn't Howard sign his Letter of Intent with the Zips? and then didn't Howard state that Treseel was still telling him he can go to a junior college and then play for Ohio State. He backed out of it, and did just that. Isn't it a violation to recruit/talk persuasively to a player that already signed their letter of intent?

[Captain Kangaroo]

I don't want to sound like sour grapes, but this doesn't surprise me. I remember what he did towards the recruitment of Erick Howard. I don't want a guy that won't stay to his commitment like Howard did, but Tressel didn't help.

If my memory serves me correctly, didn't Howard sign his Letter of Intent with the Zips? and then didn't Howard state that Treseel was still telling him he can go to a junior college and then play for Ohio State. He backed out of it, and did just that. Isn't it a violation to recruit/talk persuasively to a player that already signed their letter of intent?

You are correct. But no coach in Ohio would have the balls to call Tressel out.

[Captain Kangaroo]

The Beacon's Jason Lloyd isn't buying it. There's no way this story ends here. I'd say it's quite likely that Tressel has coached his last game in Columbus.

Best column I've read from the Beacon in a long, long time. Jason Lloyd won't be in Akron for long...dude's got mad skills.

[UAZip0510]

I love that, every time there's a scandal, everyone becomes ignorant to what anyone who has ever been close to a major D1 athletic program knows - EVERY school does this. Tressel was wrong in this case, but it's silly to think he's the only coach that does this. He's just the latest one to get caught. I'd be willing to bet that 95% of schools break rules and have unreported violations every single year, including our own head coach.

I'm not saying he wasn't wrong. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. But I'm tired of the holier-than-thou fluff pieces like Jason Lloyd's. They all do it. ALL of them. Tressel's biggest mistake was getting caught.

[Captain Kangaroo]

I love that, every time there's a scandal, everyone becomes ignorant to what anyone who has ever been close to a major D1 athletic program knows - EVERY school does this. Tressel was wrong in this case, but it's silly to think he's the only coach that does this. He's just the latest one to get caught. I'd be willing to bet that 95% of schools break rules and have unreported violations every single year, including our own head coach.

I'm not saying he wasn't wrong. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. But I'm tired of the holier-than-thou fluff pieces like Jason Lloyd's. They all do it. ALL of them. Tressel's biggest mistake was getting caught.

Rationalize all you want...Tressel is a sham. A liar. A cheat.

He's Jimmy Swaggart...Jim Baker...insert whatever other phony baloney religious charlatan you want. He's exposed big time, baby. It is fact.

I guarantee he doesn't end up at BYU after he's fired.

[GP1]

Best column I've read from the Beacon in a long, long time.

Holy cow is that a good article. I'm shocked someone from Ohio wrote it. Read the comments...OSU fans are killing the guy for telling the truth.

[GP1]

As for whoever it was that said this is great reporting, I disagree wholeheartedly. They are basing an entire story on one anonymous source. There was an anonymous source three days before "The Decision" that said LeBron was coming back to Cleveland...we saw how that worked out. There is zero evidence, and until evidence comes up, Tressel is innocent until proven guilty.

I was the one who said it was great reporting....and I was right.

Care to respond?

[UAZip0510]

As for whoever it was that said this is great reporting, I disagree wholeheartedly. They are basing an entire story on one anonymous source. There was an anonymous source three days before "The Decision" that said LeBron was coming back to Cleveland...we saw how that worked out. There is zero evidence, and until evidence comes up, Tressel is innocent until proven guilty.

I was the one who said it was great reporting....and I was right.

Care to respond?

Yep, I do. He cited one anonymous source (the cardinal rule of reporting is you have at least two), didn't tell the whole story (like including the actual evidence), and only gave Ohio State/Tressel three HOURS to respond to the report before being published.

Bush. League.

[UAZip0510]

I love that, every time there's a scandal, everyone becomes ignorant to what anyone who has ever been close to a major D1 athletic program knows - EVERY school does this. Tressel was wrong in this case, but it's silly to think he's the only coach that does this. He's just the latest one to get caught. I'd be willing to bet that 95% of schools break rules and have unreported violations every single year, including our own head coach.

I'm not saying he wasn't wrong. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. But I'm tired of the holier-than-thou fluff pieces like Jason Lloyd's. They all do it. ALL of them. Tressel's biggest mistake was getting caught.

Rationalize all you want...Tressel is a sham. A liar. A cheat.

He's Jimmy Swaggart...Jim Baker...insert whatever other phony baloney religious charlatan you want. He's exposed big time, baby. It is fact.

I guarantee he doesn't end up at BYU after he's fired.

For someone who claims to know it all, I'd expect you to know a bit more about the reality of collegiate athletics. If you don't think Akron and every other D1 program breaks rules and covers up violations all the time, you're either in denial or just blind.

[GoZips]

I love that, every time there's a scandal, everyone becomes ignorant to what anyone who has ever been close to a major D1 athletic program knows - EVERY school does this. Tressel was wrong in this case, but it's silly to think he's the only coach that does this. He's just the latest one to get caught. I'd be willing to bet that 95% of schools break rules and have unreported violations every single year, including our own head coach.

I'm not saying he wasn't wrong. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. But I'm tired of the holier-than-thou fluff pieces like Jason Lloyd's. They all do it. ALL of them. Tressel's biggest mistake was getting caught.

Rationalize all you want...Tressel is a sham. A liar. A cheat.

He's Jimmy Swaggart...Jim Baker...insert whatever other phony baloney religious charlatan you want. He's exposed big time, baby. It is fact.

I guarantee he doesn't end up at BYU after he's fired.

A huge PLUS ONE on this one.

Hey, UAZip0510, please bleach your tOSU sweat shirt until its pink so we know who you are

when you attend Zips events. Oh, you don't attend Akron sports?

[GoZips]

The Sporting News article sheds some light. Not good news for Mr. Rogers.

Sporting News Article

I do not think that either AD Smith or President Gee are going to fall on the sword for the Vest.

[UAZip0510]

I love that, every time there's a scandal, everyone becomes ignorant to what anyone who has ever been close to a major D1 athletic program knows - EVERY school does this. Tressel was wrong in this case, but it's silly to think he's the only coach that does this. He's just the latest one to get caught. I'd be willing to bet that 95% of schools break rules and have unreported violations every single year, including our own head coach.

I'm not saying he wasn't wrong. I'm not saying he shouldn't be punished. But I'm tired of the holier-than-thou fluff pieces like Jason Lloyd's. They all do it. ALL of them. Tressel's biggest mistake was getting caught.

Rationalize all you want...Tressel is a sham. A liar. A cheat.

He's Jimmy Swaggart...Jim Baker...insert whatever other phony baloney religious charlatan you want. He's exposed big time, baby. It is fact.

I guarantee he doesn't end up at BYU after he's fired.

A huge PLUS ONE on this one.

Hey, UAZip0510, please bleach your tOSU sweat shirt until its pink so we know who you are

when you attend Zips events. Oh, you don't attend Akron sports?

That makes sense...I argue that every D1 football program breaks rules and that means I am an OSU homer and that I don't attend Akron sporting events. Good logic.

I was a "rowdy" before there was the AK-Rowdies. I have about 15 of those crappy "Zips Zone" t-shirts from all of the games I sat down low at the JAR. I've watched Butchie Washington and Charlie Frye, Brandon Payne's 1000 yard season, and a heartbreaker in the final game at the Rubber Bowl. I remember when Bryan Hipsher was a rotation player, when Nate Schindewolf was our "star" player, when Steve Swiech was the 2nd coming, and was part of the greatest UA-Can't prank ever - the "Stark State" fiasco.

I also remember some great moments, like Getsty-to-Hixon, going to my first bowl game in Detroit, watching Akron beat Buffalo for the MAC Title in Cleveland, and screaming at the TV as Akron's soccer team tried to hold on for the National Title.

I do like Ohio State - I have a few family members that went there that got me into it - but it doesn't come close to my love for the Akron Zips. I've been to one Ohio State game in my life - against Akron - and remember other media members giving me a hard time for wearing an Akron polo in their press box and for pumping my fist after a Zips TD.

Argue against my points...say I don't know what I talk about...but don't try acting like you know me, and don't EVER question my love of the Akron Zips.

[Lee Adams]

Great posts DrZ!!!

For those of you too young to remember anything other than ESPN, this is called "sports journalism". Good reporting.

There is one thing I find most interesting about these stories. Why was OSU contacted by a local US Attorney? The government has no standing over the NCAA, so how did the US Attorney know anything was going on? Why did the US Attorney know about what was going on? Who was the US Attorney investigating? Was the owner of the tat parlor under some sort of investigation? Was one of the players under investigation for a crime? US Attorneys don't just walk around cities looking into tat parlors to see who is getting one. Getting a tat is not a crime. Selling that junk they sold for tats is not a crime so what was the US Attorney doing? Tressel breaking his contract is not a crime that I know of and if it was, the State Police would investigate it and not a US Attorney.

Something is very odd with this story and the focus seems to be in the wrong place. Maybe there is nothing there, but how the information came out was very strange as should be looked into by the media.

it was on TV and in the papers. It was in connection with a drug invest. on 2 active players.

[Dave in Green]

The Yahoo! Sports story was the result of a two-month investigation. The story quotes an unidentified source on key issues, but does not say that was the only source. Yahoo! Sports obviously did their homework in a very professional manner, as evidenced by the fact that they nailed the facts before anyone else. Every sports news organization in America will vouch for the fact that Yahoo! Sports did exactly what a good news organization is supposed to do.

[UAZip0510]

The Yahoo! Sports story was the result of a two-month investigation. The story quotes an unidentified source on key issues, but does not say that was the only source. Yahoo! Sports obviously did their homework in a very professional manner, as evidenced by the fact that they nailed the facts before anyone else. Every sports news organization in America will vouch for the fact that Yahoo! Sports did exactly what a good news organization is supposed to do.

In looking at the further evidence that was released today that wasn't in the initial report, they did do their research...I was certainly wrong on that. I stand by my opinion that Tressel/OSU should have been given longer than 3 hours to respond before the story was published...that's just one of those unwritten journalism rules. Nonetheless, I was wrong about the work they did in uncovering this...seems as if they did their homework.

[GoZips]

I do like Ohio State - I have a few family members that went there that got me into it - but it doesn't come close to my love for the Akron Zips. I've been to one Ohio State game in my life - against Akron - and remember other media members giving me a hard time for wearing an Akron polo in their press box and for pumping my fist after a Zips TD.

Argue against my points...say I don't know what I talk about...but don't try acting like you know me, and don't EVER question my love of the Akron Zips.

I do question your love of the Zips. Every thing you have written concerning this issue is up their butt

suck job for the Suckeyes. You need to read what you wrote. You do NOT write like you give a damn

about Akron. All your arguments are those of a Suckeye lover. So, move to Cowlumbus or grow

some nads and turn blue.

Argue your points? Why? It is the same lame set of excuses the students at Cow State are lambasting

the writer of the article in The Lantern with. The issue at hand is not about what any other program

has ever done. It is solely about what tOSU and Mr. Rogers did.

Go ahead. Defend the Vest. You will not because you cannot. He is guilty as sin and is not likely

to even be associated with tOSU when they play Akron in September. When you grow up and have

children of your own; you go ahead and accept their arguments "everyone is doing it".

[UAZip0510]

I do like Ohio State - I have a few family members that went there that got me into it - but it doesn't come close to my love for the Akron Zips. I've been to one Ohio State game in my life - against Akron - and remember other media members giving me a hard time for wearing an Akron polo in their press box and for pumping my fist after a Zips TD.

Argue against my points...say I don't know what I talk about...but don't try acting like you know me, and don't EVER question my love of the Akron Zips.

I do question your love of the Zips. Every thing you have written concerning this issue is up their butt

suck job for the Suckeyes. You need to read what you wrote. You do NOT write like you give a damn

about Akron. All your arguments are those of a Suckeye lover. So, move to Cowlumbus or grow

some nads and turn blue.

Argue your points? Why? It is the same lame set of excuses the students at Cow State are lambasting

the writer of the article in The Lantern with. The issue at hand is not about what any other program

has ever done. It is solely about what tOSU and Mr. Rogers did.

Go ahead. Defend the Vest. You will not because you cannot. He is guilty as sin and is not likely

to even be associated with tOSU when they play Akron in September. When you grow up and have

children of your own; you go ahead and accept their arguments "everyone is doing it".

Alright man...I can see what I'm dealing with here - we have the rare combination of the "I'm 100% right-but-I-won't-back-it-up-with-any-logic-or-arguments" guy, mixed with the "if-you-ever-defend-Ohio State-you-must-hate-the-Zips" guy. Quite the combination lol.

Have a good one buddy...

[Dave in Green]

The Yahoo! Sports story was the result of a two-month investigation. The story quotes an unidentified source on key issues, but does not say that was the only source. Yahoo! Sports obviously did their homework in a very professional manner, as evidenced by the fact that they nailed the facts before anyone else. Every sports news organization in America will vouch for the fact that Yahoo! Sports did exactly what a good news organization is supposed to do.

In looking at the further evidence that was released today that wasn't in the initial report, they did do their research...I was certainly wrong on that. I stand by my opinion that Tressel/OSU should have been given longer than 3 hours to respond before the story was published...that's just one of those unwritten journalism rules. Nonetheless, I was wrong about the work they did in uncovering this...seems as if they did their homework.

When a news organization is sitting on top of a story that's about to break, they are only obliged to give someone enough time to respond before their own deadline. You don't hold a story waiting for a call that might not come when other news organizations are out there trying to scoop you. In today's environment, where everyone is linked together with real-time instantaneous communication, three hours is a reasonable time to respond to a request for comment on a breaking story.