Akron September opponent's coach in hot water?

[Blue & Gold]

didn't Ball State have a shot at a BCS game a few years back? all you have to do is win out, no matter your schedule. Doesn't seem like that would require a big investment if you're in the MAC. Just schedule easy non-conference games and go undefeated for a chance at a BCS game every year.

Right here is one (THE?) reason that when I read the threads about moving the the Big East, I generally have the "careful what you wish for," thought. I'd rather stay in the MAC and dominate this conference every year. We'd have consistent, perhaps annual, Top 25 rankings, even if no real chance at winning the national championship. But that's fine w/ me. My grand vision for Akron football is lower-eschelon Top 25. And we'd be packing the Info & everyone would know who/where Akron is (even though I guess LBJ's already accomplished this one).

Become the Boise State of the MAC.

Boise State translated their success into moving to a better conference.

Akron needs to get to C-USA if your "grand vision" is to happen.

I don't have anything against C-USA, except for greater travel time/expense. But we don't need C-USA for lower-tier Top 25 rankings. We just need to win out in the MAC.

[Doug Snyder]

didn't Ball State have a shot at a BCS game a few years back? all you have to do is win out, no matter your schedule. Doesn't seem like that would require a big investment if you're in the MAC. Just schedule easy non-conference games and go undefeated for a chance at a BCS game every year.

Right here is one (THE?) reason that when I read the threads about moving the the Big East, I generally have the "careful what you wish for," thought. I'd rather stay in the MAC and dominate this conference every year. We'd have consistent, perhaps annual, Top 25 rankings, even if no real chance at winning the national championship. But that's fine w/ me. My grand vision for Akron football is lower-eschelon Top 25. And we'd be packing the Info & everyone would know who/where Akron is (even though I guess LBJ's already accomplished this one).

Become the Boise State of the MAC.

Boise State translated their success into moving to a better conference.

Akron needs to get to C-USA if your "grand vision" is to happen.

I don't have anything against C-USA, except for greater travel time/expense. But we don't need C-USA for lower-tier Top 25 rankings. We just need to win out in the MAC.

Exactly !!! MAC # 10 & 23 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_NCAA_Div...football_season

[Dr Z]

Former Ohio State coach Jim Tressel visited the Steelers' facility Thursday and watched practice. Tressel was a guest of director of football operations Kevin Colber

Browns camp, Steelers camp, looks like someone is lining up his next job. Wonder how that resume reads?

Nailed it!

[Doug Snyder]

Former Ohio State coach Jim Tressel visited the Steelers' facility Thursday and watched practice. Tressel was a guest of director of football operations Kevin Colber

Browns camp, Steelers camp, looks like someone is lining up his next job. Wonder how that resume reads?

Nailed it!

Tressel is a very intelligent guy. He would be unhirable for any real positions with at least a 5 game suspension ahead of him. But take a simple "consulting" job watching video and he can burn off that suspension this year. No doubt....the coaches look out for each other.

[akzipper]

didn't Ball State have a shot at a BCS game a few years back? all you have to do is win out, no matter your schedule. Doesn't seem like that would require a big investment if you're in the MAC. Just schedule easy non-conference games and go undefeated for a chance at a BCS game every year.

Right here is one (THE?) reason that when I read the threads about moving the the Big East, I generally have the "careful what you wish for," thought. I'd rather stay in the MAC and dominate this conference every year. We'd have consistent, perhaps annual, Top 25 rankings, even if no real chance at winning the national championship. But that's fine w/ me. My grand vision for Akron football is lower-eschelon Top 25. And we'd be packing the Info & everyone would know who/where Akron is (even though I guess LBJ's already accomplished this one).

Become the Boise State of the MAC.

Boise State translated their success into moving to a better conference.

Akron needs to get to C-USA if your "grand vision" is to happen.

I don't have anything against C-USA, except for greater travel time/expense. But we don't need C-USA for lower-tier Top 25 rankings. We just need to win out in the MAC.

I'd be happy if we could win more than one game in the MAC honestly...

[Dr Z]

Tressel is a very intelligent guy.

History suggests otherwise.

[skip-zip]

Tressel is a very intelligent guy.

History suggests otherwise.

+ 1,000,000

[GP1]

He would be unhirable for any real positions with at least a 5 game suspension ahead of him.

Kind of makes me wonder whether or not Roger Goodell will suspend Tressel for the first five games of the season like he did Pryor...

[GP1]

Tressel is a very intelligent guy.

History suggests otherwise.

My brother works out with a Federal judge in Columbus before work every day. When all of this happened, he told my brother, "Tressel must be the most stupid SOB (he said the words, but since this is a family friendly board well go with SOB) in the world."

Tressel was as smart as he wanted to be. One can be willfully stupid. Tressel knew what was going on around him for years and decided to not look into things to keep the appearance of his hands being clean and the saintly sweater vest wearing guy. More than anything, that is what makes him such a phony.

[Dr Z]

He would be unhirable for any real positions with at least a 5 game suspension ahead of him.

Kind of makes me wonder whether or not Roger Goodell will suspend Tressel for the first five games of the season like he did Pryor...

True. The thing that rubs me the wrong way, is that Jim has never really come out an apologized for what he did. I'm not talking about that sham pseudo-apology. He doesn't seem sorry for what he did, or even act like he was wrong. It makes me think that he doesn't believe what he did was wrong. I can forgive anyone, as long as they acknowledge what they did, why it was wrong, and show remorse for what they did. If what he is doing is some suggestion of some lawyer or something, than he is getting bad advice. He still walks around with an arrogance like he is christ-like. His disciple disgust me as well. IF for so some dumb reason, this University was ignorant enough to hire him, I would probably stop being a fan.

[GP1]

He still walks around with an arrogance like he is christ-like. His disciple disgust me as well.

Well said. Most people with a sense of honor would take their $3 million and go away for a year. Tressel hasn't seen a microphone he could stay away from.

My guess is he wants to cash in on this. He'll say what he wants to say in a book in a year or two so he can try to rewrite history. There will be a state full of dupes who buy it and put money in his pocket.

[Lee Adams]

Tressel is a very intelligent guy.

History suggests otherwise.

Intelligent but maybe not honest.

[GP1]

Did anyone hear osu's next coach, Urban Meyer, just give his views on breaking the rules when he said they should tell the player to stop taking gifts, etc....for a while. Not forever, but for a while. One rule breaker replaces another.

[Doug Snyder]

Did anyone hear osu's next coach, Urban Meyer, just give his views on breaking the rules when he said they should tell the player to stop taking gifts, etc....for a while. Not forever, but for a while. One rule breaker replaces another.

I don't think you heard him right. I think he was saying to stop with the charity and other events for a while and just focus on the players.

[Buckzip]

Did anyone hear osu's next coach, Urban Meyer, just give his views on breaking the rules when he said they should tell the player to stop taking gifts, etc....for a while. Not forever, but for a while. One rule breaker replaces another.

I don't think you heard him right. I think he was saying to stop with the charity and other events for a while and just focus on the players.

That is exactly what he said.

[GP1]

Did anyone hear osu's next coach, Urban Meyer, just give his views on breaking the rules when he said they should tell the player to stop taking gifts, etc....for a while. Not forever, but for a while. One rule breaker replaces another.

I don't think you heard him right. I think he was saying to stop with the charity and other events for a while and just focus on the players.

Does anyone have a recording of the game? It happened late third quarter or in the fourth. If I remember right, it was about taking gift bags. tOSU players shouldn't stop doing charity events as it is important for them to support charity. They should stop breaking ncaa rules while at charity events.

[Buckzip]

Did anyone hear osu's next coach, Urban Meyer, just give his views on breaking the rules when he said they should tell the player to stop taking gifts, etc....for a while. Not forever, but for a while. One rule breaker replaces another.

I don't think you heard him right. I think he was saying to stop with the charity and other events for a while and just focus on the players.

Does anyone have a recording of the game? It happened late third quarter or in the fourth. If I remember right, it was about taking gift bags. tOSU players shouldn't stop doing charity events as it is important for them to support charity. They should stop breaking ncaa rules while at charity events.

A free mouse pad and a free t-shirt. Something they probably threw away when they got home.

I have been to things like this before and when I am leaving I am handed something. I have never thought about it.

But I am sure 18 year odl kids do. They actually told the coach right after a meeting where they were told this was against the rules. They should have just hid it like 95% of the rest of the schools do.

[GP1]

A free mouse pad and a free t-shirt. Something they probably threw away when they got home.

But I am sure 18 year odl kids do. They actually told the coach right after a meeting where they were told this was against the rules. They should have just hid it like 95% of the rest of the schools do.

I don't believe for one second they didn't know, at the time, taking those bags was a violation. What they did is Compliance 101, not sr., jr. or even soph. level compliance. They learned it the first day. Rules are rules even when the rules are stupid.

Whether or not they turned themselves in isn't the issue. The issue is the culture of non-compliance Tressel created. If they don't break the rules, they don't have to turn themselves in.

[Buckzip]

A free mouse pad and a free t-shirt. Something they probably threw away when they got home.

But I am sure 18 year odl kids do. They actually told the coach right after a meeting where they were told this was against the rules. They should have just hid it like 95% of the rest of the schools do.

I don't believe for one second they didn't know, at the time, taking those bags was a violation. What they did is Compliance 101, not sr., jr. or even soph. level compliance. They learned it the first day. Rules are rules even when the rules are stupid.

Whether or not they turned themselves in isn't the issue. The issue is the culture of non-compliance Tressel created. If they don't break the rules, they don't have to turn themselves in.

What a culture he created wow. He should be in jail, actually on death row.

[ZachTheZip]

Those OSU players took actual cash. Not from the event, but from a booster. The gift bags were not the issue. The compliance department also didn't approve the players to go to the event. This is a failure on the part of the compliance department for not informing the players of the proper procedure for attending an event such as this. And it's a failure on the part of the Athletic Director for running what increasingly appears to be an extremely ineffective compliance department.

[K92]

[Hilltopper]

This is where this thread belonged since the beginning.

[Dr Z]

This is where this thread belonged since the beginning.

Seems like no amount of drama that happened in Columbus could have prevented that beat down as much as us fans had hoped it would. I hope before I die, we can beat them chumps without any drama.

[johnnyzip84]

This is where this thread belonged since the beginning.

Seems like no amount of drama that happened in Columbus could have prevented that beat down as much as us fans had hoped it would. I hope before I die, we can beat them chumps without any drama.

+1It would be nice to be the 1st team from Ohio to beat them since Oberlin in the 1920's, but I think someone else will beat us to it (maybe sooner than we think).Edit: Looks like the money is shifting quickly in this one. The ZN.O effect?

[Zips Win!]

This is where this thread belonged since the beginning.

Actually, sitting in the shoe last Saturday for three and a half hours felt no different than sitting on one of those. Thanks for reminding me....