GP1 Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 What Jim Tressel did he did out of love! He did it to protect the honor of THE Ohio State University. The same way Jack Abramoff did his deed to protect the honor of the political PR profession, and those Indian tribes (the ones he wasn't screwing behind their backs), and the honor of the GOP. Sorry. I can say Jim Tressel is a fine man, and an excellent tennis partner. Sorry for the poaching, man. Enjoy the NFL. I hope you were typing this from some high ground. The earthquake in Japan may create a wave in your neck of the woods you don't want to surf on.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 In the vein of all publicity is good publicity, I am not sure this applies. In an NCAA basketball story, it is mentioned that OSU's AD is the head of the selection committee (and calling possible ingegrity into question), and the following two quotes appear in the article on FoxSports. "In a measure meant to appease the NCAA, he gets with the university president and decides to suspend Tressel for two games next season — Akron and Toledo, I kid you not, and fine him $250,000 of his $3.5 million annual salary." "Calhoun’s suspension won’t take effect until next season, long after Gene Smith’s tournament is over. If he's still coaching, he'll miss the first three Big East games. Too bad Akron and Toledo weren't available." I have a feeling we're going to be seeing a lot more of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted March 11, 2011 Report Share Posted March 11, 2011 Who would resign before an investigation was complete, giving up a pay check in the process? It used to be that in our society, when a person was caught doing something wrong and it impacted those within his organization, the person did the dignified thing and resigned from their position. Today, you hire a lawyer and play the public relations game even when you are wrong. The truth is, Reno probably couldn't buy much with his check or could go out and get a job a Home Depot making about the same amount of money. There is a bid difference between that and the millions Tressel is making. Reno did the dignified thing. Tressel is playing the same scumbag game he has been playing for ten+ years now. There is a huge difference between what Reno did and what Tressel did. Reno didn't carry on a lie to save a football season or worse yet, his own ass like Tressel did. Reno also didn't have a potential National Championship season on the line...it's a bit easier to walk away from Akron's situation. Reno also never owned up to his wrongdoing, resigning instead. I guess it depends on perception...and on a forum full of anti-OSU sentiment, I know I'm not winning there lol. Let me get this straight. You are saying it is OK to lie to the president of tOSU, your direct supervisor (the AD) AND the NCAA if you have a potential national championship season ahead of you? On what planet is this OK? It has nothing to do with tOSU. At any other school, in any other job, these actions would get an employee fired. Only at tOSU could this go on. The SEC has nothing on tOSU. Reno took more risk. He gave up a low paying job for no money. What would Tressel give up?....He already has millions. Resigning from tOSU wouldn't hurt Tressel. To quote or paraphrase: 'If you ain't lyin' you ain't tryin'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted March 12, 2011 Report Share Posted March 12, 2011 Who would resign before an investigation was complete, giving up a pay check in the process? It used to be that in our society, when a person was caught doing something wrong and it impacted those within his organization, the person did the dignified thing and resigned from their position. Today, you hire a lawyer and play the public relations game even when you are wrong. The truth is, Reno probably couldn't buy much with his check or could go out and get a job a Home Depot making about the same amount of money. There is a bid difference between that and the millions Tressel is making. Reno did the dignified thing. Tressel is playing the same scumbag game he has been playing for ten+ years now. There is a huge difference between what Reno did and what Tressel did. Reno didn't carry on a lie to save a football season or worse yet, his own ass like Tressel did. Reno also didn't have a potential National Championship season on the line...it's a bit easier to walk away from Akron's situation. Reno also never owned up to his wrongdoing, resigning instead. I guess it depends on perception...and on a forum full of anti-OSU sentiment, I know I'm not winning there lol. Let me get this straight. You are saying it is OK to lie to the president of tOSU, your direct supervisor (the AD) AND the NCAA if you have a potential national championship season ahead of you? On what planet is this OK? It has nothing to do with tOSU. At any other school, in any other job, these actions would get an employee fired. Only at tOSU could this go on. The SEC has nothing on tOSU. Reno took more risk. He gave up a low paying job for no money. What would Tressel give up?....He already has millions. Resigning from tOSU wouldn't hurt Tressel. To quote or paraphrase: 'If you ain't lyin' you ain't tryin'... I think it's, "IF you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'" Tressel was cheating to win. However, when caught, he should have just admitted he cheated in lieu of telling a fib. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Who would resign before an investigation was complete, giving up a pay check in the process? It used to be that in our society, when a person was caught doing something wrong and it impacted those within his organization, the person did the dignified thing and resigned from their position. Today, you hire a lawyer and play the public relations game even when you are wrong. The truth is, Reno probably couldn't buy much with his check or could go out and get a job a Home Depot making about the same amount of money. There is a bid difference between that and the millions Tressel is making. Reno did the dignified thing. Tressel is playing the same scumbag game he has been playing for ten+ years now. There is a huge difference between what Reno did and what Tressel did. Reno didn't carry on a lie to save a football season or worse yet, his own ass like Tressel did. Reno also didn't have a potential National Championship season on the line...it's a bit easier to walk away from Akron's situation. Reno also never owned up to his wrongdoing, resigning instead. I guess it depends on perception...and on a forum full of anti-OSU sentiment, I know I'm not winning there lol. Let me get this straight. You are saying it is OK to lie to the president of tOSU, your direct supervisor (the AD) AND the NCAA if you have a potential national championship season ahead of you? On what planet is this OK? It has nothing to do with tOSU. At any other school, in any other job, these actions would get an employee fired. Only at tOSU could this go on. The SEC has nothing on tOSU. Reno took more risk. He gave up a low paying job for no money. What would Tressel give up?....He already has millions. Resigning from tOSU wouldn't hurt Tressel. To quote or paraphrase: 'If you ain't lyin' you ain't tryin'... I think it's, "IF you ain't cheatin', you ain't tryin'" Tressel was cheating to win. However, when caught, he should have just admitted he cheated in lieu of telling a fib. In this case it was lyin' And it rhymes better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Everyone breaks the law every day, even if it's only driving 1 mph over the speed limit for 1 second. When it comes to law breaking and cheating in sports, what really matters is the degree of the infraction. First degree murder is way more serious than going 1 mph over the speed limit, and some forms of cheating in sports are way more serious than others. All I ever want to see in any of these cases is the fairest and most objective examination of the facts by impartial investigators to determine the relative seriousness of a transgression, fair and balanced application of the law to determine the appropriate punishment, and swift and just application of the appropriate punishment. We don't always get it, but that's what we should aspire to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted March 13, 2011 Report Share Posted March 13, 2011 Everyone breaks the law every day, even if it's only driving 1 mph over the speed limit for 1 second. When it comes to law breaking and cheating in sports, what really matters is the degree of the infraction. First degree murder is way more serious than going 1 mph over the speed limit, and some forms of cheating in sports are way more serious than others. All I ever want to see in any of these cases is the fairest and most objective examination of the facts by impartial investigators to determine the relative seriousness of a transgression, fair and balanced application of the law to determine the appropriate punishment, and swift and just application of the appropriate punishment. We don't always get it, but that's what we should aspire to. I think Fox Noise should do all of the investigative reporting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 More news.... Herby forced out of c-bus as idiot buckeye fans hassle wife and family because Kirk does not kiss-up enough on national tv. He is relocating to Nashville... LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 More news.... Herby forced out of c-bus as idiot buckeye fans hassle wife and family because Kirk does not kiss-up enough on national tv. He is relocating to Nashville... LOL I just googled "herbstreit relocating to nashville". All of you should do it. It does not paint a good picture for tOSU fans and Columbus. Those people are a bunch of a-holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 More news.... Herby forced out of c-bus as idiot buckeye fans hassle wife and family because Kirk does not kiss-up enough on national tv. He is relocating to Nashville... LOL I just googled "herbstreit relocating to nashville". All of you should do it. It does not paint a good picture for tOSU fans and Columbus. Those people are a bunch of a-holes. It was probably a biased reporter who wrote that Google stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted March 14, 2011 Report Share Posted March 14, 2011 He said he was sorry... The guy who wasn't just the football coach at YSU, but the athletic director as well didn't know what to do? Let me help Jim because I think you may be telling another lie. Tressel was not involved in any criminal activity so he can talk to a lawyer in confidence. If he somehow was involved in criminal activity (I don't believe he was), he has every right to ask a lawyer for assistance in planning which direction to take. Can't go to the compliance officer? Fine. tOSU probably has 20 lawyers on staff who he could have talked about the situation with free of charge. This whole idea that he was just a guy who was caught up in something he didn't know how to handle because he is a babe in the woods is just bunk. He knew exactly what to do and decided it would be better to try to win a national championship than do the right thing. The problem with what he is doing is he is making himself larger than the program. That's when programs die. A coach can never be bigger than the program. Paterno has made himself larger than the program and it is killing PSU. Bowden (FSU), Woody (tOSU) and less so Osborne (Nebraska) all made themselves bigger than the program they were coaching and it was not healthy for those programs. Knight made himself bigger than the program at IU and they have never recovered. The best thing tOSU can do is realize Tressel is not bigger than the program and either ask him to resign or fire him. Either way, he has to go or everything is going to be about the problems and not what is happening on the field. It's the right thing to do all around, which is why they won't do it. Watching this guy tell lie after lie for the next few months is going to be quite fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted March 15, 2011 Report Share Posted March 15, 2011 Thought this was going away, did you? Well, another can of gasoline was just tossed on the fire. Read on, McGruder .... Wrongful Influence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 19, 2011 Report Share Posted March 19, 2011 Here's an interesting way to look at how OSU is handling the Tressel situation compared with how similar situations were handled at other schools: * OSU self-reported a violation of NCAA bylaw 10.1 (unethical conduct). * Since 2006, the NCAA has sanctioned 27 schools for violating bylaw 10.1, which requires coaches and others to be truthful and forthcoming about possible NCAA violations. * Of the 12 coaches involved, only one kept his job, while the other 11 either resigned or were fired by their schools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FBJunkie Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Thought this was going away, did you? Well, another can of gasoline was just tossed on the fire. Read on, McGruder .... Wrongful Influence Old news!!! I saw this last week. Way to stay on top of things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Tressel now has five games. How this guy still has a job I have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Thought this was going away, did you? Well, another can of gasoline was just tossed on the fire. Read on, McGruder .... Wrongful Influence Old news!!! I saw this last week. Way to stay on top of things That's funny, the original story was posted online by Sporting News 5 days ago on March 15. GoZips posted his link to the story on the day it appeared, 5 days ago on March 15. Did you see the article before it came out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Could someone who has been keeping on top of this story give us a summary of what's going on? As much as I hate Columbus State, from my understanding, what Tressel did still doesn't seem like something he should lose his job over. Here's my understanding: Some players were trading memorabilia for tatoos. Tressel was told about this before the season began. He chose to ignore it and play the players (even though they should have been ineligible for the entire season.) Not admirable, for sure. But is there anything more going on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Could someone who has been keeping on top of this story give us a summary of what's going on? As much as I hate Columbus State, from my understanding, what Tressel did still doesn't seem like something he should lose his job over. Here's my understanding: Some players were trading memorabilia for tatoos. Tressel was told about this before the season began. He chose to ignore it and play the players (even though they should have been ineligible for the entire season.) Not admirable, for sure. But is there anything more going on? Please see my post #88 above. NCAA bylaw 10.1 deals with unethical conduct. It requires coaches and others to be truthful and forthcoming about possible NCAA violations. Deliberately hiding violations from the NCAA is considered among the worst transgressions a coach or school can make in violation of NCAA rules. Tressel admitted to this only after being outed when OSU discovered the e-mails that proved that Tressel deliberately tried to hide them. It's prima facie evidence that the transgression was deliberate and not accidental. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 He chose to ignore it and play the players (even though they should have been ineligible for the entire season.) Not admirable, for sure. But is there anything more going on? What else needs to go on? He broke one of the rules you really cannot break then lied to his boss and caused his boss to lie to his boss. Six guys who shouldn't have been on the field were and tOSU had a BCS run making them a ton of money. It disrupts what integrity there is remaining in college athletics. This ongoing sham tOSU is putting on extending the suspension from two to five games is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted March 21, 2011 Report Share Posted March 21, 2011 Article on the ongoing tOSU sham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted March 25, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 Keeps Getting Worse for Tressel The Columbus Dispatch reports Friday that Tressel forwarded emails from a Columbus attorney to Ted Sarniak, described as a mentor to Ohio State quarterback Terrelle Pryor. The emails stated that Pryor and an Ohio State teammate had been selling memorabilia to a local tattoo parlor owner under federal investigation. Tressel nodded when asked at a March 8 news conference if he had shared the emails with anyone. He didn't elaborate -- athletic director Gene Smith quickly swooped in -- because the NCAA is still investigating the case. Ohio State didn't confirm Tressel's forwarded emails, telling The Dispatch it won't comment until the NCAA investigation is over. The school's compliance director, Doug Archie, acknowledged Pryor's relationship with Sarniak, saying the businessman from Pryor's hometown of Jeannette, Pa., was the quarterback's contact person during recruiting but isn't considered a booster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZipster0305 Posted March 25, 2011 Report Share Posted March 25, 2011 It really is disappointing that in spite of all the things going wrong for the Buckeyes that we won't be able to take advantage of this in the fall. I would have given one of Lee Owen's or JD's team half a chance to produce an upset or at least the 4th quarter threat of one. Too bad because it could have be a huge spring board for taking our program to the next level. As our program is now, the game will still likely be a scrimmage for OSU, and the next level for us is being competitive in the MAC again. Prove me wrong, iCoach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 More lies come to to light...Lies, lies and more lies..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 More lies come to to light...Lies, lies and more lies..... My wife called him the lyingest liar who ever lied. His worst nightmare came true last night when the basketball team lost. OSU fans have already forgotten they have a basketball team and are now focusing on football. It's only going to get worse. SOMEONE needs to step in and get the ball rolling on Tressel's firing. It can be members of the Board of Directors if the president of the University isn't going to step in. There is a bigger picture here as well and it has nothing to do with football and everything to do with the integrity of the flagship university of Ohio. This is starting to leave a stink beyond football, all the way up to the president of the University. It looks terrible and everyone in Ohio supports every state university through tax money. The taxpayers deserve better. OSU needs to fire Tressel and then throw themselves at the mercy of the NCAA. If they don't do these things internally, then someone from the outside has to step in. The governor of Ohio has a lot to do and this isn't something he should be involved, but if they can't get it together at tOSU, he is going to have to step in. It would be a shame if it got to that point, but it seems as if there is not going to be another way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 As has been said, nobody who has ever violated the NCAA rule against withholding information has kept their job, until Tressel. Do you know why all those other schools fired their coaches? Because the alternative is a Lack of institutional Control penalty slapped on them by the NCAA. Maybe OSU thinks they're above that kind of punishment, but the NCAA has shown willingness recently to go after the big boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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