The real indicator

[Lee Adams]

OK. We didn't see anything much different than last year. Which,against a well below par OSU team is troubling. The real indicator is Temple. A MAC opponent at home. If that game is not HIGHLY competetive and in my humble opinion if you don't win you must lose by a TD or less,the questions about the coaching staff and its ability to develop a program here become more legit. Given what we saw against a relatively weak OSU team the problems which existed last year are still there. Questionable QB play,poor D secondary,little pressure on the QB no running game...still there.

I thought it a little odd that Ianello put Nicely in the game. He just told everyone that Nicely wasn't his guy,his guy doesn't show much at all,then he puts in the back up. Nicely has been in the sacrifice games before. He didn't need to experience that again just because the starter couldn't get it done.

The Temple game is huge as far as the progress or lack thereof of this program is concerned.

[Zip_ME87]

I thought it a little odd that Ianello put Nicely in the game. He just told everyone that Nicely wasn't his guy,his guy doesn't show much at all,then he puts in the back up. Nicely has been in the sacrifice games before.

Odd? It was 90+ degrees; fans in the stands were going down with heat exhaustion. Game was OVER. Seems obvious that Nicely was in so that Moore wouldn't get hurt.

[Lee Adams]

I thought it a little odd that Ianello put Nicely in the game. He just told everyone that Nicely wasn't his guy,his guy doesn't show much at all,then he puts in the back up. Nicely has been in the sacrifice games before.

Odd? It was 90+ degrees; fans in the stands were going down with heat exhaustion. Game was OVER. Seems obvious that Nicely was in so that Moore wouldn't get hurt.

He wouldn't get hurt doing what? If he hadn't gotten hurt earlier,he was going to get hurt in the 4th quarter against OSU's subs? Ianello knew that Moore wasn't moving the team and there was no reason to leave him in. That was not all Moore's fault OBVIUOSLY. Ianello decided to play a guy who as far as I know had never taken a DI snap. If you are worried about him getting hurt,you better take him out in the first half 'cause thats when the game was out of hand.

[Zip_ME87]

I thought it a little odd that Ianello put Nicely in the game. He just told everyone that Nicely wasn't his guy,his guy doesn't show much at all,then he puts in the back up. Nicely has been in the sacrifice games before.

Odd? It was 90+ degrees; fans in the stands were going down with heat exhaustion. Game was OVER. Seems obvious that Nicely was in so that Moore wouldn't get hurt.

He wouldn't get hurt doing what? If he hadn't gotten hurt earlier,he was going to get hurt in the 4th quarter against OSU's subs? Ianello knew that Moore wasn't moving the team and there was no reason to leave him in. That was not all Moore's fault OBVIUOSLY. Ianello decided to play a guy who as far as I know had never taken a DI snap. If you are worried about him getting hurt,you better take him out in the first half 'cause thats when the game was out of hand.

I agree, but we're talking about iCoach. No way do I believe that he brought Nicely into the game to make a difference on offense.

BTW, I also agree with your first post in this thread that the Temple game @ home will be more telling than this one.

[Blue & Gold]

Bringing Nicely in was most likely the coaching staff's way of throwing in the towel; clearing the bench. Columbus, however, didn't oblige, as is customary, and kept blitzing.

[skip-zip]

Bringing Nicely in was most likely the coaching staff's way of throwing in the towel; clearing the bench. Columbus, however, didn't oblige, as is customary, and kept blitzing.

Of course it was. Are any of you really seriously thinking that this was somehow a QB replacement situation? And if any of you are the same people who thought that we should just keep giving Nicely a chance after almost two seasons, then shame on you for even thinking that Moore had the plug pulled on him in his first game !!

I still can't wait to hear more in the coming days about what OSWho was doing at the end of the game. I didn't watch most of the final quarter. And if it's true, it sickens me, but it's not a huge surprise.

[Lee Adams]

I thought it a little odd that Ianello put Nicely in the game. He just told everyone that Nicely wasn't his guy,his guy doesn't show much at all,then he puts in the back up. Nicely has been in the sacrifice games before.

Odd? It was 90+ degrees; fans in the stands were going down with heat exhaustion. Game was OVER. Seems obvious that Nicely was in so that Moore wouldn't get hurt.

He wouldn't get hurt doing what? If he hadn't gotten hurt earlier,he was going to get hurt in the 4th quarter against OSU's subs? Ianello knew that Moore wasn't moving the team and there was no reason to leave him in. That was not all Moore's fault OBVIUOSLY. Ianello decided to play a guy who as far as I know had never taken a DI snap. If you are worried about him getting hurt,you better take him out in the first half 'cause thats when the game was out of hand.

I agree, but we're talking about iCoach. No way do I believe that he brought Nicely into the game to make a difference on offense.

BTW, I also agree with your first post in this thread that the Temple game @ home will be more telling than this one.

No I agree. I can't imagine that hee reason he brought Nicely in was to make a diff. in the game. Thats kind of what makes it weird. I hope he didn't think it was better to get Nicely hurt than Moore.

[johnnyzip84]

I thought it a little odd that Ianello put Nicely in the game. He just told everyone that Nicely wasn't his guy,his guy doesn't show much at all,then he puts in the back up. Nicely has been in the sacrifice games before.

Odd? It was 90+ degrees; fans in the stands were going down with heat exhaustion. Game was OVER. Seems obvious that Nicely was in so that Moore wouldn't get hurt.

He wouldn't get hurt doing what? If he hadn't gotten hurt earlier,he was going to get hurt in the 4th quarter against OSU's subs? Ianello knew that Moore wasn't moving the team and there was no reason to leave him in. That was not all Moore's fault OBVIUOSLY. Ianello decided to play a guy who as far as I know had never taken a DI snap. If you are worried about him getting hurt,you better take him out in the first half 'cause thats when the game was out of hand.

I agree, but we're talking about iCoach. No way do I believe that he brought Nicely into the game to make a difference on offense.

BTW, I also agree with your first post in this thread that the Temple game @ home will be more telling than this one.

No I agree. I can't imagine that hee reason he brought Nicely in was to make a diff. in the game. Thats kind of what makes it weird. I hope he didn't think it was better to get Nicely hurt than Moore.

I believe the point was that Moore was probably more prone to injury from cramping or exhaustion due to the conditions, since he had already played over a half with much of it running to escape the rush.

[Zip_ME87]

I believe the point was that Moore was probably more prone to injury from cramping or exhaustion due to the conditions, since he had already played over a half with much of it running to escape the rush.

Yes.

[Doug Snyder]

I thought it a little odd that Ianello put Nicely in the game. He just told everyone that Nicely wasn't his guy,his guy doesn't show much at all,then he puts in the back up. Nicely has been in the sacrifice games before.

Odd? It was 90+ degrees; fans in the stands were going down with heat exhaustion. Game was OVER. Seems obvious that Nicely was in so that Moore wouldn't get hurt.

He wouldn't get hurt doing what? If he hadn't gotten hurt earlier,he was going to get hurt in the 4th quarter against OSU's subs? Ianello knew that Moore wasn't moving the team and there was no reason to leave him in. That was not all Moore's fault OBVIUOSLY. Ianello decided to play a guy who as far as I know had never taken a DI snap. If you are worried about him getting hurt,you better take him out in the first half 'cause thats when the game was out of hand.

I agree, but we're talking about iCoach. No way do I believe that he brought Nicely into the game to make a difference on offense.

BTW, I also agree with your first post in this thread that the Temple game @ home will be more telling than this one.

No I agree. I can't imagine that hee reason he brought Nicely in was to make a diff. in the game. Thats kind of what makes it weird. I hope he didn't think it was better to get Nicely hurt than Moore.

I believe the point was that Moore was probably more prone to injury from cramping or exhaustion due to the conditions, since he had already played over a half with much of it running to escape the rush.

+1 Exactly

Went to the Massillon-Glenoak game and there were lots of injuries due to cramping from the heat.

[Zipsrifle]

I feel worse now about the Zips than I did this morning,.... and I didn't feel very good about them then. Ugh, I hope I'm wrong but it looks like it's going to be another LONG year. God I hope I'm wrong.

[Lee Adams]

I feel worse now about the Zips than I did this morning,.... and I didn't feel very good about them then. Ugh, I hope I'm wrong but it looks like it's going to be another LONG year. God I hope I'm wrong.

They REALLY need to beat Temple. Thats not only from the perspective of the team but also the fans. If the Zips aren't real competetive Saturday,I'm afraid those 'avg' fans they have been trying to get to the games are gonna lose interest early in the season again.

[Zipmeister]

I don't think we can judge the Zips till after the EMU game. After that game one of the teams will know how they stack up against the worst team in the MAC.

[ZachTheZip]

I feel worse now about the Zips than I did this morning,.... and I didn't feel very good about them then. Ugh, I hope I'm wrong but it looks like it's going to be another LONG year. God I hope I'm wrong.

They REALLY need to beat Temple. Thats not only from the perspective of the team but also the fans. If the Zips aren't real competetive Saturday,I'm afraid those 'avg' fans they have been trying to get to the games are gonna lose interest early in the season again.

I'll be impressed if we can stay within 24 points at home against Temple. Impressed at how poorly Temple would have played, that is.

[UAZipster0305]

I feel worse now about the Zips than I did this morning,.... and I didn't feel very good about them then. Ugh, I hope I'm wrong but it looks like it's going to be another LONG year. God I hope I'm wrong.

They REALLY need to beat Temple. Thats not only from the perspective of the team but also the fans. If the Zips aren't real competetive Saturday,I'm afraid those 'avg' fans they have been trying to get to the games are gonna lose interest early in the season again.

Coming off a 1-11 season and 4+ losing seasons in a row and being consistently recognized as one of the worst programs in D-IA, the only fans left are those that are diehard. It would take several successful seasons in a row to earn a stadium full of Joe Akrons.

[Dave in Green]

If anyone is holding out hope that the Zips might beat Temple, it's only going to increase your level of disappointment with the team when they lose. I'm afraid the best we can hope for is that the Zips aren't totally embarassed by Temple. I'm just hoping the Zips look somewhat competitive with Temple at times during the game. The real key to measuring the Zips' season is how many teams they have a realistic chance of beating they actually beat. It's just not realistic to expect them to upset much better teams until they've shown they can beat a team that's closer to their current level.

[FBJunkie]

Bringing Nicely in was most likely the coaching staff's way of throwing in the towel; clearing the bench. Columbus, however, didn't oblige, as is customary, and kept blitzing.

awwwwww - were those mean Ohio State boys blitzing you guys. Maybe you can try scheduling Lake Erie College or Baldwin Wallace.

[Blue & Gold]

Bringing Nicely in was most likely the coaching staff's way of throwing in the towel; clearing the bench. Columbus, however, didn't oblige, as is customary, and kept blitzing.

awwwwww - were those mean Ohio State boys blitzing you guys. Maybe you can try scheduling Lake Erie College or Baldwin Wallace.

Hey now. The context of my quote was that we were trying to figure out what RI was complaining about to LF after the game.

[skip-zip]

Bringing Nicely in was most likely the coaching staff's way of throwing in the towel; clearing the bench. Columbus, however, didn't oblige, as is customary, and kept blitzing.

awwwwww - were those mean Ohio State boys blitzing you guys. Maybe you can try scheduling Lake Erie College or Baldwin Wallace.

Hey now. The context of my quote was that we were trying to figure out what RI was complaining about to LF after the game.

Some of your fellow Suckeye fans are even questioning what was going on at the end of the game. It goes beyond the blitzing. He put his starting RB back in the ball game, and started giving him the ball on every carry while we had our bench-clearing defense on the field.

I applaud our coach for showing some real fight, and calling him out on it.

If you OSWho fans think this behavior is ok, don't you realize that it's doing nothing but adding to your reputation as a bunch of pompous idiots? Haven't you had enough bad publicity in the last 6 months?

Oh, that's right, you're THE Ohio State University. You are entitled to do whatever you want. So, how are you enjoying your only legitimate victory in the last two seasons, where you were not cheating by playing ineligible players?

[GP1]

I'm afraid the best we can hope for is that the Zips aren't totally embarassed by Temple.

If the Zips get run out of the stadium Saturday, and it could very well happen, they won't win more than three games this season. I'll keep an open mind on the rest of the season until Sunday and then we can all start talking about some hard predictions for the season.

[skip-zip]

I'm afraid the best we can hope for is that the Zips aren't totally embarassed by Temple.

If the Zips get run out of the stadium Saturday, and it could very well happen, they won't win more than three games this season. I'll keep an open mind on the rest of the season until Sunday and then we can all start talking about some hard predictions for the season.

GP....this could certainly be where we are headed. But the BIG QUESTION will be........Do we regard that as "progress", or will we still feel as if we are failing just as equally as we were if we had only won a game or two?

[Dr Z]

I'm afraid the best we can hope for is that the Zips aren't totally embarassed by Temple.

If the Zips get run out of the stadium Saturday, and it could very well happen, they won't win more than three games this season. I'll keep an open mind on the rest of the season until Sunday and then we can all start talking about some hard predictions for the season.

GP....this could certainly be where we are headed. But the BIG QUESTION will be........Do we regard that as "progress", or will we still feel as if we are failing just as equally as we were if we had only won a game or two?

I already see progress from last year, even in that Columbus blowout. BUT what is our ceiling with this offense? Can we ever win the mac running this predictable offense? I sure hope LR8 looks better this Saturday, I know a lot of posters were happy about the switch at QB, I was holding my breath and hoping. Like everybody is writing, Saturday will tell us what kind of season we are in for. At the very least, I feel like I am in for a nice financial season predicting the outcomes of each game. I'm off to a good start.

[Captain Kangaroo]

GP....this could certainly be where we are headed. But the BIG QUESTION will be........Do we regard that as "progress", or will we still feel as if we are failing just as equally as we were if we had only won a game or two?

A 3-win season with a 12-game schedule, 6 home games, 7 MAC opponents + FIU and a 1-AA school...would not be progress.

[skip-zip]

I'm afraid the best we can hope for is that the Zips aren't totally embarassed by Temple.

If the Zips get run out of the stadium Saturday, and it could very well happen, they won't win more than three games this season. I'll keep an open mind on the rest of the season until Sunday and then we can all start talking about some hard predictions for the season.

GP....this could certainly be where we are headed. But the BIG QUESTION will be........Do we regard that as "progress", or will we still feel as if we are failing just as equally as we were if we had only won a game or two?

I already see progress from last year, even in that Columbus blowout. BUT what is our ceiling with this offense? Can we ever win the mac running this predictable offense? I sure hope LR8 looks better this Saturday, I know a lot of posters were happy about the switch at QB, I was holding my breath and hoping. Like everybody is writing, Saturday will tell us what kind of season we are in for. At the very least, I feel like I am in for a nice financial season predicting the outcomes of each game. I'm off to a good start.

If the last two years are any indication, this game won't be a "measuring stick" for our offense. It will be a legitimate test to get any kind of scoring.

2009 vs. Temple - 10 offensive points

2010 vs. Temple - ZERO offensive points

Like some people have pointed out, a very good Temple team might not be much of a difference from an OSWho team with a bunch of suspended players.

[Zips Win!]

Bringing Nicely in was most likely the coaching staff's way of throwing in the towel; clearing the bench. Columbus, however, didn't oblige, as is customary, and kept blitzing.

awwwwww - were those mean Ohio State boys blitzing you guys. Maybe you can try scheduling Lake Erie College or Baldwin Wallace.

Wait a minute...Buckeye fans telling UA who to schedule... Lake Erie and BW are teams that tosu be adding to their schedule once they get through the rest of the MAC and a few more I-AA teams...