GP1 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'm really holding out hope that a guy like Mike Johnson might actually be interested. If not, we are going to have to look at some local retreads like John Heacock. This is really a bad sign and I'm worried for the first time during this coaching search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 At least we now know exactly where we are in the process. We are up Shit Creek without a paddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'm really holding out hope that a guy like Mike Johnson might actually be interested. If not, we are going to have to look at some local retreads like John Heacock. This is really a bad sign and I'm worried for the first time during this coaching search. Great idea to wait until after the D-2 playoffs until we selected "our man." Please don't hire a coordinator whose team couldn't even win the MAC East. Please. I am worried too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class of 82 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 At least we now know exactly where we are in the process. We are up Shit Creek without a paddle. Worse, we're bound and gagged and approaching a large, e-coli-infected waterfall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I'm really holding out hope that a guy like Mike Johnson might actually be interested. If not, we are going to have to look at some local retreads like John Heacock. This is really a bad sign and I'm worried for the first time during this coaching search. Wow. I don't think there's a candidate out there that I like. If Mike Johnson is our best choice, we're in trouble. The guy has spent his entire career on the West Coast, with the exception of a couple years in Baltimore and Atlanta coaching professional football. Unless he brings in some guys that have connections in the MAC footprint for recruiting, we'll be in a ton of trouble with him as well. I have no optimism whatsoever that we'll find a coach that'll do anything for the program over the next 5 years. And we thought we'd sunk to the bottom with Ianello... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I am worried too. I'm glad someone else is. I've said all along that I think a lot of people could win at Akron because I believe in what can be accomplished at the school. Look at how well soccer and basketball do and the football team can do the same thing. Winters was one of those guys I believed could have won. I'm worried beyond the point I normally worry when TW is making a decision. Is there anyone left out there on the list of "a lot of people who could win at Akron"? I don't know, but the list has to be pretty darn small at this point, if not empty. Feeling pretty low right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctmjbowes@sbcglobal.net Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I am worried too. I'm glad someone else is. I've said all along that I think a lot of people could win at Akron because I believe in what can be accomplished at the school. Look at how well soccer and basketball do and the football team can do the same thing. Winters was one of those guys I believed could have won. I'm worried beyond the point I normally worry when TW is making a decision. Is there anyone left out there on the list of "a lot of people who could win at Akron"? I don't know, but the list has to be pretty darn small at this point, if not empty. Feeling pretty low right now. What's even worse about all of this is that Winters was a guy for whom UA would have been a destination job. Like a KD, we could have expected him to do well and to maintain long term continuity. If we're really lucky and we find a guy to turn this mess around, he'll likely be a hot shot who will stick around just long enough to earn a sniff somewhere else and will disappear. Seeing that happen constantly at MAC schools just sucks, even at the good programs. Winters, for me, meant something different than that demoralizing carousel and that was a significant part of my support for him getting the job. Now the best we can hope for is a young turk to turn things around and bolt. That's not awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I am worried too. I'm glad someone else is. I've said all along that I think a lot of people could win at Akron because I believe in what can be accomplished at the school. Look at how well soccer and basketball do and the football team can do the same thing. Winters was one of those guys I believed could have won. I'm worried beyond the point I normally worry when TW is making a decision. Is there anyone left out there on the list of "a lot of people who could win at Akron"? I don't know, but the list has to be pretty darn small at this point, if not empty. Feeling pretty low right now. What's even worse about all of this is that Winters was a guy for whom UA would have been a destination job. Like a KD, we could have expected him to do well and to maintain long term continuity. If we're really lucky and we find a guy to turn this mess around, he'll likely be a hot shot who will stick around just long enough to earn a sniff somewhere else and will disappear. Seeing that happen constantly at MAC schools just sucks, even at the good programs. Winters, for me, meant something different than that demoralizing carousel and that was a significant part of my support for him getting the job. Now the best we can hope for is a young turk to turn things around and bolt. That's not awesome. Just when I thought I couldn't feel any lower.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 In hopes of lifting all your spirits, how about a coach who in 6 years led his D2 team to a 74-7 record and TWO national titles!! Best of all he is currently the recruiting coordinator at Notre Dame. Let's go after Chuck Martin HARD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiroad1 Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I am worried too. I'm glad someone else is. I've said all along that I think a lot of people could win at Akron because I believe in what can be accomplished at the school. Look at how well soccer and basketball do and the football team can do the same thing. Winters was one of those guys I believed could have won. I'm worried beyond the point I normally worry when TW is making a decision. Is there anyone left out there on the list of "a lot of people who could win at Akron"? I don't know, but the list has to be pretty darn small at this point, if not empty. Feeling pretty low right now. What's even worse about all of this is that Winters was a guy for whom UA would have been a destination job. Like a KD, we could have expected him to do well and to maintain long term continuity. If we're really lucky and we find a guy to turn this mess around, he'll likely be a hot shot who will stick around just long enough to earn a sniff somewhere else and will disappear. Seeing that happen constantly at MAC schools just sucks, even at the good programs. Winters, for me, meant something different than that demoralizing carousel and that was a significant part of my support for him getting the job. Now the best we can hope for is a young turk to turn things around and bolt. That's not awesome. Under the circumstances, I would be ecstatic if this scenario were to play out. We can only hope somebody will want to hire away our next coach. IMO, that would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
you am i Posted December 19, 2011 Report Share Posted December 19, 2011 I haven't read through all the posts so I don't know if this has been mentioned, but Winters' decision kind of reminds me of Caleb Porter's decision to stay at Akron after his championship season. Caleb could have left for a professional job and more money, but he made the decision that felt right. I would have loved to have had him, but I admire his loyalty. Good for him. The grass isn't always greener, etc ... The problem for us is that it is reflects really poorly on Akron to have people saying no and withdrawing their name from consideration. It still could work out. There has to be some hungry young guy we have never heard of ready to take charge. I'm worried that if they use one of these professional search companies, the same old names that pop up on everyone's list will be recycled until someone says yes. TW does not strike me as the creative-thinker type. Like most everyone, I worry he will mess it up again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Take it for what its worth, but my guy who works in the football department (same one who called the Ianello firing and the reason for waiting), has told me that an announcement should be made tomorrow. They were apparently cleaning the football office for the new coach today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 I am worried too. I'm glad someone else is. I've said all along that I think a lot of people could win at Akron because I believe in what can be accomplished at the school. Look at how well soccer and basketball do and the football team can do the same thing. Winters was one of those guys I believed could have won. I'm worried beyond the point I normally worry when TW is making a decision. Is there anyone left out there on the list of "a lot of people who could win at Akron"? I don't know, but the list has to be pretty darn small at this point, if not empty. Feeling pretty low right now. What's even worse about all of this is that Winters was a guy for whom UA would have been a destination job. Like a KD, we could have expected him to do well and to maintain long term continuity. If we're really lucky and we find a guy to turn this mess around, he'll likely be a hot shot who will stick around just long enough to earn a sniff somewhere else and will disappear. Seeing that happen constantly at MAC schools just sucks, even at the good programs. Winters, for me, meant something different than that demoralizing carousel and that was a significant part of my support for him getting the job. Now the best we can hope for is a young turk to turn things around and bolt. That's not awesome. Just when I thought I couldn't feel any lower.... Could be he didn't want to work for Wistrcill. Blame him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 After reading what I can find on the web about our search I am more convinced than ever that Paul Winters will not be our coach. I think that the damage done by the 2009 search has left Paul with some great fears about the program and the direction that the University has gone. The tone in the Detroit News article http://www.detnews.com/article/20111219/SP...ext%7CFRONTPAGE does not sound like someone who believes that he would A: take the job if offered or more likely B: ever be offered the job to begin with. I am disappointed that PW would air his issues in a public forum. If you really want the job you bury that and work it out internally. I believe Scott Loeffler is the guy that we will choose http://www.owlsports.com/staff.aspx?staff=334 and with that will come some on the job training as a head coach. The good thing about this choice is that the guy was a quarterback, so he knows how to manage the game. Let's hope he can manage the team/program as a whole. He has been at a lot of great places and has been associated with winning programs. Akron Football has a lot going for it and we need to make the right hire on this one. I do think that we all need to cut LP/TW some slack - one bad decision should not define a career. For what its worth, I do think it will turn out that Akron just hired a pretty good baseball coach. I don't know exactly how much of a hand TW had in that search. Of course that hiring pales in comparison to that of one of the "money programs" at the university. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 After reading what I can find on the web about our search I am more convinced than ever that Paul Winters will not be our coach. I think that the damage done by the 2009 search has left Paul with some great fears about the program and the direction that the University has gone. The tone in the Detroit News article http://www.detnews.com/article/20111219/SP...ext%7CFRONTPAGE does not sound like someone who believes that he would A: take the job if offered or more likely B: ever be offered the job to begin with. I am disappointed that PW would air his issues in a public forum. If you really want the job you bury that and work it out internally. I believe Scott Loeffler is the guy that we will choose http://www.owlsports.com/staff.aspx?staff=334 and with that will come some on the job training as a head coach. The good thing about this choice is that the guy was a quarterback, so he knows how to manage the game. Let's hope he can manage the team/program as a whole. He has been at a lot of great places and has been associated with winning programs. Akron Football has a lot going for it and we need to make the right hire on this one. I do think that we all need to cut LP/TW some slack - one bad decision should not define a career. For what its worth, I do think it will turn out that Akron just hired a pretty good baseball coach. I don't know exactly how much of a hand TW had in that search. Of course that hiring pales in comparison to that of one of the "money programs" at the university. It does pale in comparison. The kids like to say, "Epic Fail!" Well, with this football situation, TW pulled a truly Epic Fail. A fail costing the U literally millions of dollars. And $65 million worth of potential InfoCision Stadium/Summa Field momentum absolutely flushed down the . EPIC FAIL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottditzen Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Take it for what its worth, but my guy who works in the football department (same one who called the Ianello firing and the reason for waiting), has told me that an announcement should be made tomorrow. They were apparently cleaning the football office for the new coach today. Most intriguing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 OK.......D-DAY Part Deux? I saw this half-hearted suggestion on a blog somewhere (hustlebelt?) and it made me think, at least for a few seconds. Is there ANY chance of simply handing the reigns over to the man who has been trying to hold the recruiting class of 2012 together? Or have Okruch's opportunities to be a head coach passed him by? BTW if we hire Loeffler, I think I'm OK with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronad Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 In the office all day today, again. So i will be able to monitor what is going on. Hopefully, a coach will be named today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronad Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Half of Tuesday has passed with nothing being heard by anyone. Unless something happens soon, we will have to wait another day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Half of Tuesday has passed with nothing being heard by anyone. Unless something happens soon, we will have to wait another day. If no announcement is made today, I wonder if that hurts Scot Loeffler's chances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 The announcement won't be made today. On whichever day the announcement will be made, @GoZipsUpdates will post a teaser. Something along the lines of "Stay tuned for the big announcement later today!" to get people hyped up. That didn't happen today, so I doubt anything will be announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 The announcement won't be made today. On whichever day the announcement will be made, @GoZipsUpdates will post a teaser. Something along the lines of "Stay tuned for the big announcement later today!" to get people hyped up. That didn't happen today, so I doubt anything will be announced. If this means they're taking another look at other candidates, so be it. Although it sure does lend credence to the "Winters is Plan A with little thought for Plan B" scenario (unless Loeffler also turned them down....ugggh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 We don't even know what happened before the Winters offer. How many other candidates have even been involved over the last few weeks, and how close did any of them get to getting the job before eliminating themselves or not getting an offer? It's killing me, because we probably will never know. If somehow we weren't doing much more than waiting for Winters, we could have made a huge and costly miscalculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipRoo Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 Half of Tuesday has passed with nothing being heard by anyone. Unless something happens soon, we will have to wait another day. If no announcement is made today, I wonder if that hurts Scot Loeffler's chances? It's a long drive from Detroit to Philadelphia. And gas ain't cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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