MDZip Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Now that both Can't and NIU have completed 11-1 seasons and are both ranked and the two Big East leaders (Rutgers and Louisville) both had bad losses today, it is conceivable that the winner of the MACC (first time ever it will be two ranked teams playing each other) could possibly get access to a BCS game. It is more likely for Can't (unbelievable) than NIU since Can't is currently in the BCS rankings (at #23) but a win over a ranked team could elevate either one high enough. Then one of these two things have to occur - they have to be ranked in the top 12 of the final BCS poll or ranked in the top 16 and higher than a champion of an AQ conference. Can't or NIU will be higher than the Big East Champ now, it's just a question if either can jump up to #16 (not likely but not impossible especially with other teams ahead of them losing). The only non-AQ that could still have a chance too is Boise State but they do not play any more ranked teams. How incredible would it be for a MAC team to play in a BCS game and it be Can't? I think they'd get killed (their loss this season was to Kentucky) so I'd far rather see NIU get there. I think they'd have a better shot. Its a long shot but it could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishMA1996 Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 I don't see it for either team. Too many teams above them would have to fall with essentially only conference championships remaining. The K.S.U ranking is a reward for 10 and now 11 wins, and at the same time that is about as high as voters will let them go because of strength of schedule, the loss to UK, etc. NIU has a very similar schedule with no big wins so the Huskies' win or lose on Friday share the same fate as K.S.U. No BCS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Michigan, Louisville, Rutgers, and Texas lost this week. I could see Can't passing Boise if they beat NIU. That would put them at 18. Good chance of UCLA losing to Stanford, that would probably put them at 17. Oregon State losing to Oregon, not sure how far they would drop, though. They really needed OU to beat OK St, which after checking the current score, is still very possible. I'd say Can't has a very good chance if they can beat NIU, and that is a huge IF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted November 24, 2012 Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 BCS Selection Procedures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted November 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2012 Michigan, Louisville, Rutgers, and Texas lost this week. I could see Can't passing Boise if they beat NIU. That would put them at 18. Good chance of UCLA losing to Stanford, that would probably put them at 17. Oregon State losing to Oregon, not sure how far they would drop, though. They really needed OU to beat OK St, which after checking the current score, is still very possible. I'd say Can't has a very good chance if they can beat NIU, and that is a huge IF. And with all those teams losing today and NIU and Can't both winning this weekend, the BCS standings are going to be shuffled this week so Can't likely moves up and I'll bet NIU makes an appearance so either one of those beating the other as a ranked team will significantly increase their odds. Much as I'd hate it to be Can't, would be pretty cool to see a MAC team in a BCS game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OUBobcat9092 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 And with all those teams losing today and NIU and Can't both winning this weekend, the BCS standings are going to be shuffled this week so Can't likely moves up and I'll bet NIU makes an appearance so either one of those beating the other as a ranked team will significantly increase their odds. Much as I'd hate it to be Can't, would be pretty cool to see a MAC team in a BCS game. Not to mention a MAC team playing in a BCS Bowl is worth about $1,000,000 to each team in the conference... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Michigan, Louisville, Rutgers, and Texas lost this week. I could see Can't passing Boise if they beat NIU. That would put them at 18. Good chance of UCLA losing to Stanford, that would probably put them at 17. Oregon State losing to Oregon, not sure how far they would drop, though. They really needed OU to beat OK St, which after checking the current score, is still very possible. I'd say Can't has a very good chance if they can beat NIU, and that is a huge IF. NIU is higher than Can't in the human polls, but below them in the computers. NIU could jump Can't in the BCS standings on Tuesday based on their strength in the polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RootforRoo44 Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 NIU is higher than Can't in the human polls, but below them in the computers. NIU could jump Can't in the BCS standings on Tuesday based on their strength in the polls. I agree. Personally, I still think NIU is a better team than the Flushes, but we will see in Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 25, 2012 Report Share Posted November 25, 2012 Looking more and more like the winner of the MAC will go to a BCS bowl as long as Boise loses to Nevada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Looking more and more like the winner of the MAC will go to a BCS bowl as long as Boise loses to Nevada. If that's true, I'd love to see it happen. I just don't want it to be Ken+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 If that's true, I'd love to see it happen. I just don't want it to be Ken+ It's possible even with a Boise win, but not as likely. It's doubtful how much weight voters in the human polls would put on a win over a top 20 conference foe in the MACC. Boise plays at 7-4 Nevada in their finale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Can't is #17, and NIU is #21 in the BCS standings this week. Whoever wins adds a top-25 win to their resume going into BCS selection process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Can't 17 Boise 20 NIU 21 All Can't has to do is win, and UCLA or Nebraska lose. Both great possibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 ESPN Linky Can't State moves up if No. 16 UCLA loses to No. 8 Stanford in the Pac-12 Championship & No. 18 Texas loses at No. 6 Kansas State. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I think it's pretty safe at this point to say that this season has proven that a MAC team is fully capable of making it into a BCS bowl game without feeling guilty about wishing that Can't is not the first to do it. And what a slap in the face wakeup call that the widely hinted UA desire to land in the Big East to achieve something like this is not only totally unnecessary, but would have been a step backward based on the ongoing methodical dismemberment of the Big East. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 I think it's pretty safe at this point to say that this season has proven that a MAC team is fully capable of making it into a BCS bowl game without feeling guilty about wishing that Can't is not the first to do it. And what a slap in the face wakeup call that the widely hinted UA desire to land in the Big East to achieve something like this is not only totally unnecessary, but would have been a step backward based on the ongoing methodical dismemberment of the Big East. curious to how it would have been a step backward? Seems like it would have been lateral to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 As I said, a step backward based on the ongoing methodical dismemberment of the Big East. No one knows where it's going to end for the Big East. There's no guarantee that it will continue to exist as a conference once the buzzards are done picking over the carcass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akzipper Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 As I said, a step backward based on the ongoing methodical dismemberment of the Big East. No one knows where it's going to end for the Big East. There's no guarantee that it will continue to exist as a conference once the buzzards are done picking over the carcass. Even at it's weakest state the Big East will be better than the MAC. Maybe compared to the Big10 and SEC, it is a joke but not to the MAC. People can note that they have added SMU, Memphis, and Houston. So? what has the MAC done, add UMass and kept schools like Eastern Michigan and only really relevant in Ohio and Michigan. People talk about national exposure, yet bash a conference that takes up the eastern US. Trust me "Joe Akron" isn't getting excited about a Saturday matchup against Eastern Michigan and we are NEVER going to a conference like the ACC or Big10. So unless you're content staying the MAC forever, the BE is our ceiling. I suppose the best way to make everyone happy is take the best 16 or so teams from the Big East, CUSA, and MAC. Drop everyone else down to FCS and be done with it. I'm not just talking wins, but facilities, fanbases, and athletic depts as a whole. Cincy, UConn, Houston, Memphis, UCF, Akron, Ohio, ECU, Buffalo, SMU, Louisville, USF, Temple, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Geez,how quickly we lose our perspective. K.S.U. in a BCS Bowl game? They have a good D for the MAC no doubt. They have a good RB. They have a decent O line. They have a QB who would not have started at Akron. Their secondary is only adequate for the MAC with the D line they have in front of them. How good are the wideouts? Setting aside the Big East BCS rep for a minute, which BCS team from the other conferences does K.S.U. stack up against? Come on. They did beat Rutgers. The overrated team from the BE. They got clocked by KU. They beat up on the Zips,MOfOh etc. etc. I am very concerned that the recent bottom feeders in the MAC may be in the cold when all the chairs are taken. Lets worry about what TB does with this team so we don't have to sit thru 1-11 and losing to Can't again next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Geez,how quickly we lose our perspective. K.S.U. in a BCS Bowl game? They have a good D for the MAC no doubt. They have a good RB. They have a decent O line. They have a QB who would not have started at Akron. Their secondary is only adequate for the MAC with the D line they have in front of them. How good are the wideouts? Setting aside the Big East BCS rep for a minute, which BCS team from the other conferences does K.S.U. stack up against? Come on. They did beat Rutgers. The overrated team from the BE. They got clocked by KU. They beat up on the Zips,MOfOh etc. etc. I am very concerned that the recent bottom feeders in the MAC may be in the cold when all the chairs are taken. Lets worry about what TB does with this team so we don't have to sit thru 1-11 and losing to Can't again next season. Can't State wins the MAC, and Texas and UCLA lose, they are in a BCS bowl game, whether you like it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 26, 2012 Report Share Posted November 26, 2012 Geez,how quickly we lose our perspective. K.S.U. in a BCS Bowl game? They have a good D for the MAC no doubt. They have a good RB. They have a decent O line. They have a QB who would not have started at Akron. Their secondary is only adequate for the MAC with the D line they have in front of them. How good are the wideouts? Setting aside the Big East BCS rep for a minute, which BCS team from the other conferences does K.S.U. stack up against? Come on. They did beat Rutgers. The overrated team from the BE. They got clocked by KU. They beat up on the Zips,MOfOh etc. etc. I am very concerned that the recent bottom feeders in the MAC may be in the cold when all the chairs are taken. Lets worry about what TB does with this team so we don't have to sit thru 1-11 and losing to Can't again next season. Worthy or not, they have played the game and by the BCS's own rules they will be in if they win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 Actually its not as simple as just a couple of teams losing. But,I'd love to see K.En.T play somebody like Florida State,South Carolina,K.State,Stanford, UCLA,Oregon,Wisconsin,Nebraska,etc. etc. But I'd rather see Akron be in that position in 3-4 years. Go Flashes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 SBNation has a pretty decent summary of the situation, but when I tried to embed the link doesn't work. Go to SBNation if you so desire. It's under the CFB pulldown menu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Zip Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 SBNation has a pretty decent summary of the situation, but when I tried to embed the link doesn't work. Go to SBNation if you so desire. It's under the CFB pulldown menu.SBNation Link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted November 27, 2012 Report Share Posted November 27, 2012 You can't link to anything that has k e n t in the link because ZN.o automatically turns it into can't. You have to copy the link from ZN.o and then manually edit can't to k e n t. EDIT: By the way, the story is a TERRIBLE piece of journalism. They wax long and hard about lowly Kentucky beating Can't, then they go on and on about Rutgers or Louisville earning a BCS bowl berth from the Big East. But they NEVER mention that Can't whipped Rutgers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.