akronzips71 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/polls?poll=5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 As we should. We're a top-80 team right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Pomeroy currently has the Zips at #51 with OU at #68. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 And aside from the awful Coastal Carolina loss, the three other losses are to teams ranked 16, 21 and 98. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted January 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 And aside from the awful Coastal Carolina loss, the three other losses are to teams ranked 16, 21 and 98. But as I was told twice in the Coppin thread, losing to good teams does not make you good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipgrad1990 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Our next opponent is Western Michigan which currently is the highest ranked team in the MAC according to the CBS Sportsline Real time RPI, they are at 56. I noticed this because they were in as the MAC bracket pick last week even though they had the same record as Akron (tie breaker is CBS Sportsline RPI). WMU is also #55 on the Rivals top 100. In the Pomeroy ratings WMU is only 185 however. So it should be a good game, I am just glad we have them at home. Seems like we normally play the top western team on the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 But as I was told twice in the Coppin thread, losing to good teams does not make you good. But beating good ones do - one of the Zips wins is against #42 - MTSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjackson123 Posted January 3, 2013 Report Share Posted January 3, 2013 Good article if you like college hoops in general. No mention of Akron or the MAC but a pretty good analysis on who is for real and who isn't (if you trust Seth Davis) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 Espn's Myron Medcalf has revised his preseason Mid Major predictions. Mid-American original pick: Ohio (East), Toledo (West) Revised pick: Akron (East), Western Michigan (West) Toledo is 4-7 and coming off a loss to a four-win Chicago State team. Not the start I'd expected, but Western Michigan possesses the league's top RPI (58) after winning six of its first seven games. The Broncos have balance (Nate Hutcheson leads four players who average at least 9.9 ppg). Ohio, months removed from a Sweet 16 run, has faced some unexpected obstacles. Can't State and Akron, which has won five in a row behind Zeke Marshall's efforts (13.3 ppg, 6.8 rpg, 3.8 bpg), look like the smarter picks to win the East. But never count out the Bobcats in March. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjackson123 Posted January 4, 2013 Report Share Posted January 4, 2013 I suppose the link would help... This is from my post above.... Good article http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-b.../?sct=uk_t11_a6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted January 5, 2013 Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 Dont really care what the Zips are ranked unless its the MAC, top 25, or NCAA tourney. We better be top 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted January 5, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2013 And today we have dropped off the Top 100. Nothing like winning to screw up your season! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4110 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 And today we have dropped off the Top 100. Nothing like winning to screw up your season! I thought I was crazy. Lookin over that list for Akron. Hopefully we can climb back into the picture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadszip Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I thought I was crazy. Lookin over that list for Akron. Hopefully we can climb back into the picture. That rivals list is horrible. Just another reason to trust the Ken Pomeroy rankings more than any other in college basketball. And that's just not because Akron is ranked higher this year by him than in any other rankings (in past years, the Zips have been lower there than in RPI or other power rankings). Actually, even in the Pomeroy rankings the Zips had fallen from No. 46 (prior to the Pine-Bluff win) to No. 51 after the Coppin State win. I guess the Princeton win must finally be paying dividends, though, as the Zips have climbed back to No. 47. I'm guessing that is because Princeton moved up to No. 80 based on a win against No. 35 Bucknell, who was boosted by a 2-point loss at Missouri this weekend. Princeton beat Bucknell by 12 two weeks ago. Pomeroy has the MAC rankings like this: 47. Akron 64. Ohio 113. Can't State 172. Buffalo 175. Western Michigan 182. Toledo 198. Bowling Green 216. Central Michigan 230. Miami 268. Ball State 296. Eastern Michigan 310. Northern Illinois Unfortunately, outside of EMU (which probably wouldn't be knocked as much if they didn't lose every major game they played by 30-plus, outside the one home win against an average Purdue team), it seems about right. EMU, despite the losses, is probably more in the low 200 range. ... around the CMU, BG mark. Still, the MAC sucks this year outside of Akron and Ohio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 The Rivals "poll" is really just the same, simple RPI that's listed on many different sites. As wadszip says, RPI is pretty simplistic compared with more sophisticated formulas such as those developed by Sagarin and Pomeroy. What really sets these apart is their reliance on adjusted offense and defense stats that measure a team's total performance and not just the wins and losses. For example, the Zips' current #47 ranking is largely based on their adjusted offense, which is currently ranked #28 of all DI teams. By comparison, Pomeroy currently ranks Syracuse #6 in the country despite a #25 adjusted offense that's just slightly better than the Zips have. The difference is that Syracuse has the #1 adjusted defense in the Pomeroy rankings while the Zips are only #97. Pomeroy found that his predictions became much more accurate after he added adjusted offense and defense to his formula a few years ago. It's really odd to see a Coach Dambrot team ranked so high on offense after so many years of seeing his teams so focused on defense. I find this offensive-minded Zips team much more entertaining to watch than previous Zips teams. But with an offense rated so much higher than the defense, the Zips are going to have to improve their D before the end of the season or the better teams will simply put up more points than even the highly rated Zips offense can muster. Of all of Pomeroy's top-ranked teams, #3 Duke is probably the best balanced with the #6 adjusted offense and the #7 adjusted defense. One of Pomeroy's more obscure indexes is the "luck" factor, which "measures the difference between a team's expected record (based on offensive and defensive efficiencies) and its actual record." Those who believe in the Akron/NEO sports curse will not be surprised to learn that the Zips currently rank #295 in the Pomeroy luck rankings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Unfortunately, outside of EMU (which probably wouldn't be knocked as much if they didn't lose every major game they played by 30-plus, outside the one home win against an average Purdue team), it seems about right. EMU, despite the losses, is probably more in the low 200 range. ... around the CMU, BG mark. Still, the MAC sucks this year outside of Akron and Ohio. Zips recent post-game: Frenchy (to KD): "Did you hear the EMU-K.entucky score?" KD: "No. What was it." Frenchy: "90 - 38." KD: "That's a problem." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 Zips recent post-game: Frenchy (to KD): "Did you hear the EMU-K.entucky score?" KD: "No. What was it." Frenchy: "90 - 38." KD: "That's a problem." That was pretty funny. I believe KD also added something like "I guess that zone wasn't working too well tonight". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjackson123 Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 A little love for the Zips http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball...lege-basketball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 A little love for the Zips http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball...lege-basketball While the Zips get mentioned in the MAC portion, they are also highlighted in the Big South paragraph where they are mentioned as a good win (along with Clemson) for surging Coastal Carolina who could yet be a title contender. Maybe still not as bad a loss as some think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Lunardi updates bracketology heading into conference play, and now favors the Zips over OU as the MAC representative in the NCAA tournament with a #13 seed. Better yet, it's the dream matchup against #4 seed tOSU on a neutral court (Austin, TX) in a season when they are vulnerable without a lot of team depth. Please make this happen! Lunardi Bracketology Zips are also up to #13 in the Mid-Major Top 25. collegeinsider.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 Live-RPI this morning shows the Zips at #77 after knocking off WMU last night. But that's nothing compared with Pomeroy. The Pomeroy computers have absolutely fallen in love with UA, and now have the Zips ranked #34 -- the highest ranking UA has ever held. Defense is the key. A few days ago Pomeroy ranked the Zips #47 with an adjusted offensive ranking of #28 and an adjusted defense of #97. After the WMU game, the Zips' offense fell only one position to #29, but the defense jumped up 28 positions to #69. Last night's game was WMU's second worst beatdown of the season. Only #2 Michigan beat them up worse and held them to fewer points than the Zips did. #20 NC State allowed WMU to score 25 points more than the Zips did, and had a smaller victory margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 In spite of a beatdown by Creighton and a couple of bad losses, we ARE 10-4. And we did beat MTS, which is a highly regarded team. Most of us wanted to be undefeated at this point, but not too shabby anyway. The addition of Pat F has been HUGE for us. I honestly think he is playing better than Zeke did as a freshman (of course, he is not a true freshman) and that puts us in the position that when Zeke goes out, Zeke comes in. That will be hard to counter for most MAC teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 10, 2013 Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 To play the what-if game.. What if Tree and Harney weren't suspended? 12-2 with wins over Ok State, Tennessee and NC State? RPI in the 30's too? Probably near the top 25 in polls. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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