plowerman78 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 RT: @BillBankGreene "Se'Von Pittman has transferred to Akron. Starts classes in July. Sits out this year. A big assist goes to Jim Tressel for helping Se'Von." Kid went to Canton McKinley.....originally verbal committed to Michigan State, decided to flip to OH State when Urban was announced as coach. Real good get for Coach Bowden and his staff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Nice find. Seems like coach Bowden is working hard on his defensive line. Rivals **** Off field issue led to transfer? From the link below this post. "I messed up at Ohio State and have only myself to blame for that. There were a lot of questions about why I left, and Akron discussed the issues with me and I felt they were ready to let the past be the past. I have no legal issues or academic issues at all, and I'm coming to Akron very humble and looking to contribute how I can." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plowerman78 Posted June 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 here is the story http://recruiting.scout.com/2/1303183.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Great pickup if he can keep his stuff together RS last year and will sit out this year. Should have 3 years here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 With all the Kroger's in the Columbus area, he certainly forfeited some lucrative spokesperson opportunities by leaving Ohio State. I hope it works out for him in Akron. Seems genuinely humble and grateful for the opportunity. Edit - the 8 billion meg pic of a Kroger Sav-on was removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 "I messed up at Ohio State and have only myself to blame for that. There were a lot of questions about why I left, and Akron discussed the issues with me and I felt they were ready to let the past be the past. I have no legal issues or academic issues at all, and I'm coming to Akron very humble and looking to contribute how I can." Is this a quote from Jim Tressel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendofzippy Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Wow, this a big "get" for us! Sounds like he left OSU on good terms ... Se'von Pittman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Enough of the crap, er, baloney about what has Jim Tressel ever done for Akron. This kid is one of many to feel JT's positive influence. Just give Coach Tressel and Coach Bowden a little time. Good things are happening at Akron. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbalsinger Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 I just love snagging up those former 4-star transfers...but did we expect anything less from Bowden? This has been Bowden's MO when it comes to building programs: he snaggs kids who've had troubles in their past (health, academics, law) and gives them another shot on a less intense stage. Bowden = 353,435,475 Ianello's +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kangaroo Craig Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 After reading the article, my impression is that he seems to be mature, and like Cap'n said, humble. This could turn out to be a huge coup for Akron. Kudos to Bowden, Tressel, and Co. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCK1 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 After reading the article, my impression is that he seems to be mature, and like Cap'n said, humble. This could turn out to be a huge coup for Akron. Kudos to Bowden, Tressel, and Co. Recent list of OSU transfers: Dorian Bell- Duquesne Melvin Fellows- Retired/Injury James Jackson- Grand Valley State Dominic Clarke- Illinois State Jordan Whiting- Louisville Adam Bellamy- Retired? Jonathan Newsome- Ball State Sam Longo- Cincinnati Jaamal Berry- Murray State David Durham- Pitt Scott McVey- Retired/Injured Taylor Graham- Hawaii James Louis- Florida International Chad Hagan- Retired/Injured Tyrone Williams- Ohio Dominican Verlon Reed- Findlay Brian Bobek- Minnesota Derjan Gambrell- No update found Jeremy Cash- Duke Conner Crowell- Injured, no further update Sevon Pittman- Akron Ricquan Southward- No update found Joey O'Connor- Colorado State David Perkins- Illinois State Keith Wells- Ohio Dominican Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Impressive get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Adams Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 "I messed up at Ohio State and have only myself to blame for that. There were a lot of questions about why I left, and Akron discussed the issues with me and I felt they were ready to let the past be the past. I have no legal issues or academic issues at all, and I'm coming to Akron very humble and looking to contribute how I can." Is this a quote from Jim Tressel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB1719 Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 As important as this may seem to be now, it will pay huge dividends down the road when we keep expanding the Stark Co pipeline. HS coaches take notice of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Enough of the crap, er, baloney about what has Jim Tressel ever done for Akron. This kid is one of many to feel JT's positive influence. Just give Coach Tressel and Coach Bowden a little time. Good things are happening at Akron. I agree! I just wish he didn't have to sit out this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Enough of the crap, er, baloney about what has Jim Tressel ever done for Akron. This kid is one of many to feel JT's positive influence. Just give Coach Tressel and Coach Bowden a little time. Good things are happening at Akron. I would be very wary of this kid. He is obviously not very honest. After all, he said how great everyone at OSU was about this and how great and helpful Tressel was to him and many others. We all know from this board, that those are all lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I am by no means a Buckeye fan, but I wonder how much influence this guy had on Se'Von's decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Funny how some Ohio fans have been criticizing this move (along with the other transfers), despite the fact that this is how Solich went about improving the football program at Ohio. It's like now that they're successful, the stuff they had to go through to get there never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jupitertoo Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Funny how some Ohio fans have been criticizing this move (along with the other transfers), despite the fact that this is how Solich went about improving the football program at Ohio. It's like now that they're successful, the stuff they had to go through to get there never happened. Once again, you're entirely wrong. Solich brought in a few Jucos and a very small number (3?) transfers in his first two years. He built the program right and it took five years to do it. Zach, you're the same one who claimed Jim Christian - he of the highest-ever MAC winning percentage - is a good recruiter but a bad game coach. Add this one to your resume - 100 percent wrong. What troubles me about Bowden is that he's bringing in some guys who have questionable pasts and, I'm afraid, he will be the first one looking for a new job if he can get to 6 wins with the Zips. Meanwhile, he's filled key positions with one-year wonders and will have left town with no firm foundation in place. It takes 4-5 years to build a program and you don't do it by bringing in bad characters for one-and-done terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jupitertoo Posted July 5, 2013 Report Share Posted July 5, 2013 Funny how some Ohio fans have been criticizing this move (along with the other transfers), despite the fact that this is how Solich went about improving the football program at Ohio. It's like now that they're successful, the stuff they had to go through to get there never happened. Once again, you're entirely wrong. Solich brought in a few Jucos and a very small number (3?) transfers in his first two years. He built the program right and it took five years to do it. Zach, you're the same one who claimed Jim Christian - he of the highest-ever MAC winning percentage - is a good recruiter but a bad game coach. Add this one to your resume - 100 percent wrong. What troubles me about Bowden is that he's bringing in some guys who have questionable pasts and, I'm afraid, he will be the first one looking for a new job if he can get to 6 wins with the Zips. Meanwhile, he's filled key positions with one-year wonders and will have left town with no firm foundation in place. It takes 4-5 years to build a program and you don't do it by bringing in bad characters for one-and-done terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 @jupitertoo, it's been a long time since I've mentioned the difference I see between black and white versus shades of grey. I'd be worried if UA had given Coach Bowden carte blanche to bring in a bunch of thugs to instantly turn a losing Zips football program into a winner (pure black). But I don't believe that's the case. I believe that Coach Bowden has been given high standards to adhere to, and I trust that any players he brings in who may have had a troubled past are good risks. I don't object to jump-starting a dead program as long as it's done intelligently and with class. I'm going to continue to believe that's what's happening with the Zips football program unless proven otherwise. I think the scenario you present is the blackest, worst case scenario. For now, I find it to be an acceptable shade of grey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 First of all, the transfers that can play immediately are NOT players with questionable pasts, they simple graduated from their first school before exhausting their eligibility. That accounts for almost all of the transfers that Bowden has brought in. Two others sat out a year after following their position coach from another school. In Solich's first recruiting class (going into the 2005 season), he brought in four JUCO players, and two post-graduates. No transfers because any he brought in would sit out that year. His second year he brought in seven transfers from Vanderbilt, GVSU (D-II), NMSU, Ashland (D-II), Clarion (D-II), Indianapolis (D-II), and Central State (D-II), four JUCOs, and two post-graduates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 It takes 4-5 years to build a program... It really doesn't and the MAC is a perfect case in point. It is easy to win right away in the MAC. It has been proven a lot in recent years. Think of the Zips football program as a patient. The Zips football program was hit by a train. We'll call that train the "Wistrcill-Ianello Express". The program spent last year in the emergency room and now has been transported up to intensive care. It is far from out of the woods. The medicine this program needs is some winning to make the patient stable. I would propose that the medicine TB is offering gets us closer to winning. I would also propose treating the patient who has been run over by the Wistrcill-Ianello Express with leaches (4-5 year "building process") is not the best treatment. If Akron wants to continue with a tradition of losing, a 4-5 year "building process" would be the direction to go. The Zips need to get winning and winning now. They have about 2-3 years to win. The program needs to be seen as a winning program. The Zips have had three one win seasons in a row. Bring in freshmen to come in and continue with that tradition?...No thanks! If under your advice, Akron was still only winning 4 games in three years because of their "building process" the program would be completely finished. Going from one win to two is not success, it is just another degree of horrible. Going from two wins to three is not growth or success, it is another degree of horrible. The mistake fans make is thinking going from one win to two or two to three is improvement. Who wants to play for a horrible program? No decent recruits would come to Akron, no decent assistant coaches would come to Akron and the stadium would continue to be a complete failure. I've seen enough losing and "building process" over the past 20+ years. It's funny. Top notch BCS teams field players with questionable pasts all of the time. If they win, nobody cares. If they lose, fans only care if the team is losing. Under Urban Meyer, Florida was putting players on the field who were actual sociopaths and firing guns into cars while in school. Does anyone think the average UF fan cares? Does any sane fan sit at a game and when a questionable players scores the winning TD with seconds to go in the game say, "I just can't cheer for him because he was in a bar fight." Of course not because everyone has been in a bar fight and I would bet a lot of posters on this board probably smoke a little weed in college. I'm not saying we should be that extreme and I'm certainly not saying Pittman falls into this extreme description, but we should understand that in order to win in college football, sometimes risks have to be taken on players. Pittman is a risk worth taking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 For those of you that are very uninformed, even Bama brings in JUCO's. Look up the top 2 JUCO OT's and see who is recruiting them. You may be surprised. Not every transfer has a background issue. Sure, some do, but not most. Many are homesick and go to the local school. Others realize they are already being recruited over and realize they will never play at their current school. Others have new coaching staffs that didn't recruit them. Some just realize they made a mistake. There are many, many reasons to transfer. Akron has had quite a few transfers that have helped out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 Akron has had quite a few transfers that have helped out. And quite a few more never had any meaningful impact. Will coach Bowden have a better track record of finding transfers who can actually contribute on the field? I think he will, but time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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