Waiting on deck for their turn at the the NCAA storm...

[Buckzip]

Don't you hate when you get sucked in though? There's just something about the internet that makes you think, "I can reason with this guy". But it's not true. There is no reasoning with someone like this.

You hit it on the head in an earlier post - it's an obsession. Many in Ohio that aren't OSU fans are simply obsessed with the Buckeyes. I'm sure the same thing happens in other states. I'd imagine there were tons of Pitt fans that just loved the Penn State sanctions for example.

And for everyone up on Mt. Pious, this wasn't hard to find:

A History Of MAC School NCAA Violations

Yea. You know that old joke. "wait a minute honey,I can't leave yet, someone is wrong on the Internet".

I usually ignore his obsession but once in a while I take the bait like a good fish.

What's really funny to me is that he really thinks he knows what the hell he's talking about.

Too had he doesn't live in Alabama as a N Alabama fan.

His head would spin over the non stop obsession with Bama and Auburn

Most large school fans laugh at clowns like him. I pity him.

It's interesting to see it from both sides.

SPS probably can't be cured.

[RowdyZip]

I hate Ohio State with a passion. Part of it is jealousy, I'll admit it. But until Zips football does something to carve out a niche like Cinci has done down south, I can't blame locals for cheering on the team 2 hours down I-71. Do I need help too? I also hate our local rivals. K-ent, OU, UT...hatred is natural in sports if you're passionate about YOUR team.

BuckZip might need a little counseling over his paranoia that the NCAA is so much harder on the Big Ten than other major conferences.

[Buckzip]

I hate Ohio State with a passion. Part of it is jealousy, I'll admit it. But until Zips football does something to carve out a niche like Cinci has done down south, I can't blame locals for cheering on the team 2 hours down I-71. Do I need help too? I also hate our local rivals. K-ent, OU, UT...hatred is natural in sports if you're passionate about YOUR team.

BuckZip might need a little counseling over his paranoia that the NCAA is so much harder on the Big Ten than other major conferences.

Perhaps, but I'm not early as bad as some. Some are out there.

Every fan base has their share of nuts. OSU certainly has their share.

[jupitertoo]

If I'm not mistaken, Keith Dambrot was a graduate assistant on that 1984 Zips team that was later found to have offered impermissible benefits to players. KD played for Rupert at Firestone High School. How in the world did Rupert get that job at Akron? I believe he spent 2-3 years at Baldwin Wallace before being hired at Akron. At Firestone, he was, shall we say, a little too friendly with the co-eds, but never got caught because the school's swim coach, Mike Wilcox, got all the headlines (and legal action) for his own sexual indiscretions. A different era.

[skip-zip]

What's really funny to me is that he really thinks he knows what the hell he's talking about.

Typical OSWho fan.

1) Denial

2) Excuses

I actually have a friend who defended OSWho religiously through all of this, but he has recently told me that he wants those clowns down in Cowlumbus to clean up their act. He's embarrassed. I respect that. Don't you want things to change? You can't possibly think that it's OK for a public institution to exceed every school in the country in NCAA violations by such an astronomical margin. And ranting and calling people names changes none of the facts.

Seriously, please understand that I am a Zips fan in my 50s, and I don't treat OSWho any differently than I treat Ken+ State. So, spare me the 'jealously" rants, because I don't think anyone is jealous of Ken+ State's success.

Wouldn't you rather be clamoring for a solution instead of exacerbating the problem? Do you think that there's a value in having college athletics be....well....college athletics? Akron won the EM Cup for this very reason, and I have respect for people who run their athletic program with this level of integrity. And I will continue to hammer on those who make a joke out of it, and OSWho happens to be the biggest perpetrator, by an extremely wide margin.

Thanks for your analysis of my mental state, and for the entertainment. I need to go finish my 3rd grade homework, so I can't continue this discussion right now.

[LZIp]

Typical OSWho fan.

1) Denial

2) Excuses

I actually have a friend who defended OSWho religiously through all of this, but he has recently told me that he wants those clowns down in Cowlumbus to clean up their act. He's embarrassed. I respect that. Don't you want things to change? You can't possibly think that it's OK for a public institution to exceed every school in the country in NCAA violations by such an astronomical margin. And ranting and calling people names changes none of the facts.

Seriously, please understand that I am a Zips fan in my 50s, and I don't treat OSWho any differently than I treat Ken+ State. So, spare me the 'jealously" rants, because I don't think anyone is jealous of Ken+ State's success.

Wouldn't you rather be clamoring for a solution instead of exacerbating the problem? Do you think that there's a value in having college athletics be....well....college athletics? Akron won the EM Cup for this very reason, and I have respect for people who run their athletic program with this level of integrity. And I will continue to hammer on those who make a joke out of it, and OSWho happens to be the biggest perpetrator, by an extremely wide margin.

Thanks for your analysis of my mental state, and for the entertainment. I need to go finish my 3rd grade homework, so I can't continue this discussion right now.

Your obsession with OSU is as pathetic as the student who come to Akron and root for OSU and not Akron. You easily bring them up more than anyone on the board. OSU has the most violations because they have the biggest compliance department in the country and report the most. Secondary violations are a joke, anyways. For example in a recent report "a prospective student-athlete received complimentary admission to a home baseball game". A benefit of $6. "A prospective student athlete, who was told they could not participate in the baseball camp, was given a t-shirt because the parent and athlete were visibly disgruntled."

Give me a break. You should have more important things to worry about in your life. I come on this board to talk Akron and topics relevant to Akron/collegiate athletics, if you want to constantly talk OSU, Im sure you can take it to one of their boards, where your bias will easily get owned by people who care way more about OSU than me.

[skip-zip]

carve out a niche like Cinci has done down south

I've brought this up on many occasions. They've done a fantastic job of creating a loyal following in the SW section of Ohio. The bUCkeye State shirts are hilarious. The anti-OSWho radio spots that they ran a few years ago are hilarious as well. This is a perfect example of what we should do up here. And it doesn't need to wait for football. It can start with Basketball, and extend into Football, just like it did in Cinci.

[Hilltopper]

If I'm not mistaken, Keith Dambrot was a graduate assistant on that 1984 Zips team that was later found to have offered impermissible benefits to players. KD played for Rupert at Firestone High School. How in the world did Rupert get that job at Akron? I believe he spent 2-3 years at Baldwin Wallace before being hired at Akron. At Firestone, he was, shall we say, a little too friendly with the co-eds, but never got caught because the school's swim coach, Mike Wilcox, got all the headlines (and legal action) for his own sexual indiscretions. A different era.

Those "impermissible benefits" were some t-shirts and coffee mugs the players were given for participating in a preseason tourney. OMG!

Bob Rupert made a fortune coaching in Saudi Arabia before he took over as HC for the Zips. Before that he was the head coach at Canton McKinley. Get your facts straight.

Arabs Want to Learn Basketball.

[LZIp]

Those "impermissible benefits" were some t-shirts and coffee mugs the players were given for participating in a preseason tourney. OMG!

Bob Rupert made a fortune coaching in Saudi Arabia before he took over as HC for the Zips. Before that he was the head coach at Canton McKinley. Get your facts straight.

Arabs Want to Learn Basketball.

from the link posted earlier..

"

1984 — Akron men's basketball gave perks and was still bad

Bob Rupert led the Zips to a 37-71 record in the Ohio Valley Conference and never a winning record. And yet his assistants gave his players extra benefits, including access to cars and parking passes, having parking tickets dismissed, spending money, and even college credit for work they didn't do. Rupert retired the year they were given a one-year postseason ban and two years probation. They also cut a few scholarships."

[jupitertoo]

Those "impermissible benefits" were some t-shirts and coffee mugs the players were given for participating in a preseason tourney. OMG!

Bob Rupert made a fortune coaching in Saudi Arabia before he took over as HC for the Zips. Before that he was the head coach at Canton McKinley. Get your facts straight.

Arabs Want to Learn Basketball.

Get your facts straight. Rupert coached at Akron Firestone from 1976-78. I played for him. Prior to that he coached at Canton McKinley. He then went to BW. Also read that summary of MAC NCAA violations. It was more than mugs, big guy.

[Spin]

So How Bout them (Okie State) Cowboys???

[GP1]

Interesting listen. Whitlock's opinion on Thayer Evans

Thayer Evans Wiki page deleted

I wonder if SI continues to run the other parts to this "hard hitting story" by Evans?

Good posts Dr Z.

I would be surprised as well if they continued to run this "story". The "story" is no longer about things that happened ten+ years ago,it is about SI running a story about nothing. It's really about the humiliation of the "Old Media" trying to make themselves relevant in 2013. The next couple of weeks of SI may have this content, but I feel confident we may not see all five issues of the story. SI has egg on their faces and they are probably trying to write other stories as fast as possible.

What would make it a relevant story? Maybe if today OkSt had players consorting with known drug dealers and a coach who wanted to cover it up. That is a story worth writing. Guys taking money ten years ago?...No.

Thanks again for the great links Dr Z.

[GP1]

Bob Rupert made a fortune coaching in Saudi Arabia before he took over as HC for the Zips.

To me, this is more of a story than the OK State story. I actually learned more from this one line than the OkState story. I think it is great that the Zips once had a coach who coached in the Middle East.

[legendofzippy]

I've brought this up on many occasions. They've done a fantastic job of creating a loyal following in the SW section of Ohio. The bUCkeye State shirts are hilarious. The anti-OSWho radio spots that they ran a few years ago are hilarious as well. This is a perfect example of what we should do up here. And it doesn't need to wait for football. It can start with Basketball, and extend into Football, just like it did in Cinci.

If you think a 4 or 5 star from this area is ever going to choose Akron over Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, etc., you're beyond hopeless. Look how many Akron kids are flocking to Ohio State right now.

We're a mid-major. Ohio State is a blue-blood. I love my Zips, but they're not on the same level.

Why anyone cares really is beyond me.

[legendofzippy]

Good posts Dr Z.

I would be surprised as well if they continued to run this "story". The "story" is no longer about things that happened ten+ years ago,it is about SI running a story about nothing. It's really about the humiliation of the "Old Media" trying to make themselves relevant in 2013. The next couple of weeks of SI may have this content, but I feel confident we may not see all five issues of the story. SI has egg on their faces and they are probably trying to write other stories as fast as possible.

What would make it a relevant story? Maybe if today OkSt had players consorting with known drug dealers and a coach who wanted to cover it up. That is a story worth writing. Guys taking money ten years ago?...No.

Thanks again for the great links Dr Z.

So basically what you're saying is, you're completely unaware that SI has already published the first three parts of the story. And today's was on drugs. Maybe you should stick with topics you actually know something about.

[K92]

What's with all the venom being spat in the general direction of the Great One these days? Sheesh.

[GP1]

So basically what you're saying is, you're completely unaware that SI has already published the first three parts of the story. And today's was on drugs. Maybe you should stick with topics you actually know something about.

I saw the story and I'm shocked to see that kids in college are smoking pot, a substance legal in some states now, and becoming legal in more states down the road. I was also shocked to see that some players also used drugs harder than pot, because God knows this doesn't go on with any other subset of students in schools.

I was also shocked to learn that there are some schools that "fix grades". Who would have thought that something so outrageous goes on?

Lastly, I was shocked to read that pot, a drug low legal in some states, was the drug of choice.

News flash...when I was in college, there were guys on the Zips football team in the late 1980s smoking weed. Is this really shocking or a news story? I'd go out today and buy some weed and smoke it if I knew where in the heck to go buy some.

[GP1]

Podcast of Jason Whitlock giving his thoughts on the Sports Illustrated article and those that contributed to the article.

This was well worth the 20 minutes. Thank you for posting. Nothing better than listening to Thayer Evens be called "simple minded".

[legendofzippy]

This was well worth the 20 minutes. Thank you for posting. Nothing better than listening to Thayer Evens be called "simple minded".

I'm not going to waste one second of my day listening to a hack like Jason Whitlock.

When ESPN is exploiting athletes by running promos of them for their games, it's all well and good. When a university does something similar, they (Jay Bilas being the lead) cry about the fate of the poor athlete.

And when ESPN wants to drag a program through the mud for ratings, again, no problem. When another news outlet does it, they attack the sources. SI directly competes with their magazine you know.

ESPN does some good work, but they've become too much a part of the system. One could argue they run the system more than the NCAA at this point.

[GP1]

I'm not going to waste one second of my day listening to a hack like Jason Whitlock.

Whitlock does not work for ESPN.

Whether or not he is a hack, can be determined by his bio. Link

[Spin]

Whether or not he is a hack, can be determined by his bio. Link

First class, all the way.

[Dr Z]

I saw the story and I'm shocked to see that kids in college are smoking pot, a substance legal in some states now, and becoming legal in more states down the road. I was also shocked to see that some players also used drugs harder than pot, because God knows this doesn't go on with any other subset of students in schools. I was also shocked to learn that there are some schools that "fix grades". Who would have thought that something so outrageous goes on? Lastly, I was shocked to read that pot, a drug low legal in some states, was the drug of choice. News flash...when I was in college, there were guys on the Zips football team in the late 1980s smoking weed. Is this really shocking or a news story?

If your going to start using facts and instances in this thread without attacking members and acting like this is someones twitter page, I'm going to just stop reading right now. Did you hear the report from the Jets game last night? Somebody read the SI article to Santonio and asked for his opinion, he couldn't stop laughing long enough to comment.

[GP1]

If your going to start using facts and instances in this thread without attacking members and acting like this is someones twitter page, I'm going to just stop reading right now. Did you hear the report from the Jets game last night? Somebody read the SI article to Santonio and asked for his opinion, he couldn't stop laughing long enough to comment.

Since we are sticking to the facts here...Santonio has some yellow teeth...That's all I'm saying...

[legendofzippy]

Whitlock does not work for ESPN.

So who does he work for then?

ESPN calls Jason Whitlock’s comments on Sports Illustrated’s Oklahoma State reporting ‘not appropriate’

[Sergeant Zip]

The Big Lead says "he technically hasn’t even started working for the WWL- nor is his deal fully signed."