Captain Kangaroo Posted November 14, 2013 Report Posted November 14, 2013 Secondly, adding full-court ball handling to Quincy's plate would be a huge mistake. It would seriously diminish his ability to contribute the other things he does best. Plus, significantly turning those duties over to someone who is at the end of his career would be a bad investment for the near future of the program. I don't advocate adding PG to Q's plate. I advocate making it his plate. Would it diminish his points? Sure. Would it increase his assists? Yes. And, it would free-up McAdams and Kretzer for the open looks they are struggling to get in the post-AA era. You play the season to win as many games as possible, not to develop players for the next season. If Q at the point gives us a better chance to win games, he should play the point. Evans can work on the role in practice and over the summer. Again - if Evans can play the position, by all means he should be the man. But if he can't, the PG should be the best option for us to win at The Q. And that's Q. Quote
skip-zip Posted November 14, 2013 Report Posted November 14, 2013 PG is a problem. But I'd just remind everyone that we were only down 3 with 12-minutes to play. It was somewhere around 5:00 in the morning EST. Our shooters obviously had no legs. I believe we only made 2 3-point shots all game while the 3 is a big part of our offense. I'd love to play St. Mary's again at a decent hour & on a neutral floor. It wasn't the 4th day of consecutive games in the MAC tournament. I'm not trying to give you a hard time, but shooters don't lose their legs in Game #2 after 3 days rest. Physical fatigue is a whole different issue than being sleepy because you were up too late. Let me add: As many times as I've been to the West Coast, coming back has always been a much bigger issue for me. Quote
zippy5 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Posted November 14, 2013 I don't advocate adding PG to Q's plate. I advocate making it his plate. Would it diminish his points? Sure. Would it increase his assists? Yes. And, it would free-up McAdams and Kretzer for the open looks they are struggling to get in the post-AA era. You play the season to win as many games as possible, not to develop players for the next season. If Q at the point gives us a better chance to win games, he should play the point. Evans can work on the role in practice and over the summer. Again - if Evans can play the position, by all means he should be the man. But if he can't, the PG should be the best option for us to win at The Q. And that's Q. Not only that, but if Q wants to make the NBA.. well, a 6'6" point guard would be pretty appealing. Quote
MDZip Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Diggs has 15 turnovers in three games and if you saw him at the end of the MTSU game, I think it is apparent he is not the answer at PG either. He can score in bunches (46 points in three games) so I think the Zips need him doing what he does best. McAdams was a PG wasn't he? And a definite threat from three, so I vote giving McAdams a shot. Quote
LZIp Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 The answer at PG is the player who led us to a 20pt win over OU in the MAC championship. Move Kretz to starting SG, Cheatham back up Tree. BAM. Quote
Boywonder Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 I thought CB was recruited by High Majors, why is he playing so sorry? He's clearly a D1 athlete, but his skill level is low. We need Abreu real bad, Tree is going to struggle without a real PG this year. Quote
Dave in Green Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 Going into this season, Coach Dambrot was well aware of the fact that neither of the designated PGs had proven themselves in D1 competition. He knew that a 3rd player would need to be prepared to take over primary PG duties if required. Coach Dambrot knows the capabilities of his players better than any fan possibly could. He knows that Nick filled in well enough to destroy OU in the MAC tournament championship game. He also knows that Reggie played point in HS. So who did Coach Dambrot select as the 3rd PG option during preseason practices and scrimmages? Q. Just because the current PGs can't score doesn't mean that Q would give up scoring if he played the point. PGs have been known to lead their teams in both scoring and assists. As far as Q turning the ball over too much, in their junior seasons Abreu averaged 2.8 turnovers per game and Q 2.4. Quote
MDZip Posted November 17, 2013 Report Posted November 17, 2013 So who did Coach Dambrot select as the 3rd PG option during preseason practices and scrimmages? Q. Yes, but he has never once sat in the stands and watched the Zips. He's too close. Quote
Blue & Gold Posted December 4, 2013 Report Posted December 4, 2013 Apparently future Zips' point guard Joshua Williams does not have to sit out until after Christmas during his first year at STVM. Ohio.com Quote
GoZips88 Posted December 4, 2013 Report Posted December 4, 2013 Bad link. Pretty sure this is the one he meant to post ... Ohio.com Quote
Blue & Gold Posted December 4, 2013 Report Posted December 4, 2013 Pretty sure this is the one he meant to post ... Ohio.com Thanks. Quote
Z.I.P. Posted December 4, 2013 Report Posted December 4, 2013 Thanks. Wow! St V's got SOME team this year -- with four D-1 stars. Is this team in the class of say 1999-2002? Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted December 5, 2013 Report Posted December 5, 2013 While people grouse about our point guard situation, I don't think they have turned the ball over in roughly 3 weeks? I'm sure we have the fewest turnovers in D-1 basketball over that span. Quote
Z.I.P. Posted December 5, 2013 Report Posted December 5, 2013 While people grouse about our point guard situation, I don't think they have turned the ball over in roughly 3 weeks? I'm sure we have the fewest turnovers in D-1 basketball over that span. Duly noted and filed, under "sensing a note of sarcasm". Quote
GP1 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Posted December 6, 2013 While people grouse about our point guard situation, I don't think they have turned the ball over in roughly 3 weeks? I'm sure we have the fewest turnovers in D-1 basketball over that span. Oddly enough, this has not impacted their average points per game. That stat remains the same. Quote
Dave in Green Posted December 6, 2013 Report Posted December 6, 2013 Unfortunately the lack of turnovers in the past few weeks hasn't helped the Zips' per-game average. At an average 18.0 turnovers per game, the Zips are currently ranked #1 (hint: #1 is not good in this particular category). The Zips are also #341 in the country in assists per game (8.7) and #351 in assists to turnovers (0.48). The good news? They can't sink any lower. Quote
Blue & Gold Posted December 6, 2013 Report Posted December 6, 2013 Unfortunately the lack of turnovers in the past few weeks hasn't helped the Zips' per-game average. At an average 18.0 turnovers per game, the Zips are currently ranked #1 (hint: #1 is not good in this particular category). The Zips are also #341 in the country in assists per game (8.7) and #351 in assists to turnovers (0.48). The good news? They can't sink any lower. We're the #1 turnover-prone team in the nation?! Quote
akronzips71 Posted December 6, 2013 Report Posted December 6, 2013 We're the #1 turnover-prone team in the nation?! BUT, we have also played the LEAST games of anyone on that list. Therefore, if we had NO turnovers tomorrow, we would jump from 18 per game to 14 per game and number 85 on the list (or better, depending on other results). What a difference a day makes! Quote
Dave in Green Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Grambling State and Louisiana-Monroe are the only other teams in the country that have played only 3 games to this point, and they're currently ranked #3 and #5 in turnovers per game. It does stand to reason that teams tend to have more turnovers in earlier games before all the players get used to playing together under game conditions. The Zips will get better. But they need to get a lot better. Quote
akronzips71 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Grambling State and Louisiana-Monroe are the only other teams in the country that have played only 3 games to this point, and they're currently ranked #3 and #5 in turnovers per game. It does stand to reason that teams tend to have more turnovers in earlier games before all the players get used to playing together under game conditions. The Zips will get better. But they need to get a lot better. Mark this day on your calendar. DIG has conceded a statistical analysis to me! Quote
Dave in Green Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Mark this day on your calendar. DIG has conceded a statistical analysis to me! Your analysis was flawed. You said the Zips had played the LEAST games of anyone on that list. They're TIED with two other teams for least games. But I do agree with your conclusion. Quote
akronzips71 Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Your analysis was flawed. You said the Zips had played the LEAST games of anyone on that list. They're TIED with two other teams for least games. But I do agree with your conclusion. Nice try but it was still the least number of games. Anyway, some of the teams on there had 10 or 11 games. That makes us look - I don't know what but it is like we don't play on the same planet. Quote
Captain Kangaroo Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 Being an oldtimer here, I may be dating myself with this comment, but does anyone remember that "Back the Zips" campaign? It was a coon's age ago, but I still remember it. I thought it was pretty clever. I wish we'd do something like it again. Quote
Dave in Green Posted December 7, 2013 Report Posted December 7, 2013 "Break The Zips Fast" is the new theme to be unveiled at 2 p.m. today at the Wolstein Center. Looking forward to seeing my fellow basketball-deprived Zips fans show up for the long-awaited feast. Quote
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