LZIp Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Props to Michael Beaven for giving us any news. Michael Beaven @MBeavenABJ 12m Akron football offers scholarships to STVM seniors Newman Williams and Travonte Junius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 thread title fail by me. Who is STVM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipmeister Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 thread title fail by me. Who is STVM? It's not a who, it's a what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 thread title fail by me. Who is STVM? STeVe Martin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Props to Michael Beaven for giving us any news. Michael Beaven @MBeavenABJ 12m Akron football offers scholarships to STVM seniors Newman Williams and Travonte Junius. It's about time. Newman Williams is a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 It's about time. Newman Williams is a stud. Agreed. Booker has received most of the press, but Williams has been just as effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Agreed. Booker has received most of the press, but Williams has been just as effective. Booked is over rated because of his speed and athletic ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Booked is over rated because of his speed and athletic ability. Yeah, who would ever want a guy with great speed and athletic ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Yeah, who would ever want a guy with great speed and athletic ability. My point is that he is not that great of a football player. Not top 10 ranking IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 My point is that he is not that great of a football player. Not top 10 ranking IMO. good point. See Mich commit Michael Ferns out of St. Clairsville. I personally do not know alot about Booker, besides that he is a big time recruit. But if it based on athleticism and speed rather than football playing ability, Ferns is in a similar boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 thread title fail by me. Who is STVM? STVM is the abbreviation for Saint Vincent-Saint Mary. STVM is the Catholic high school in Akron that has produced many, many quality players and coaches over the years. Coach Dambrot once coached basketball at STVM and had a young player affectionately nicknamed "the King" or LBJ who now plays for the Miami Heat in the NBA. Capice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 20, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 STVM is the abbreviation for Saint Vincent-Saint Mary. STVM is the Catholic high school in Akron that has produced many, many quality players and coaches over the years. Coach Dambrot once coached basketball at STVM and had a young player affectionately nicknamed "the King" or LBJ who now plays for the Miami Heat in the NBA. Capice? lol. Im aware of all of the connections. I've just always used SVSM or simply St V. Maybe wrong, but I am not an Akron native. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Story from ABJ. It was noted above that Dante Booker is a physical freak, but, IMHO, Newman Williams is the best player on the team. With his height and athleticism, Dante has more "up side." But in the STVM games I've seen Newman has been far-and-away the most productive player on the field. Even on offense, if STVM needs critical yards, they don't give the ball to Paris Campbell, they hand the ball off to Newman Williams. He's a beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Michael Ferns out of St. Clairsville. Little known fact (I think). St. Clairsville is the only high school go have two Zips players go on to the NFL: Shawn Vincent and Robert Lyons. Interestingly, their position coach back in the 80s is Mike Woodford, the Zips DB coach now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckzip Posted November 21, 2013 Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 good point. See Mich commit Michael Ferns out of St. Clairsville. I personally do not know alot about Booker, besides that he is a big time recruit. But if it based on athleticism and speed rather than football playing ability, Ferns is in a similar boat. True. But at least STV plays tough competition. Ferns plays in a weak area and he hasn't been tested. I see Booker never starting. At least not at LB. Maybe he grows a little and moves to DE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2013 Little known fact (I think). St. Clairsville is the only high school go have two Zips players go on to the NFL: Shawn Vincent and Robert Lyons. Interestingly, their position coach back in the 80s is Mike Woodford, the Zips DB coach now. Thanks for the share. I am from the area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendofzippy Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Thanks for the share. I am from the area. Is that why you were questioning Ferns? Have you seen him play? I haven't but he seems like a solid recruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted November 22, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Is that why you were questioning Ferns? Have you seen him play? I haven't but he seems like a solid recruit. Yes. Ferns blew up between his sophomore and junior seasons (I believe) at some camps. He then accumulated offers from great schools all over the country. Note that I am not trying to hate and wish him the best. Because its uncommon for a kid form our area to be such a touted recruit (probably biggest since Joey Galloway?), many people have paid close attention and share a similar opinion to me. I've caught a few games, including the state championship game a year ago, and, in my opinion, he just doesn't make the plays you would expect out of a recruit of his ranking, or really any plays at all. When I've watched many other players on the team stuck out more than him, but isn't necessarily a bad thing. Both WRs from last season went D1 (one to Purdue, one to Ohio), and the RB who graduates this year is going to YSU. Ferns is a great person, has hard work-ethic, and is a great athlete, but I am not impressed by the football player Michael Ferns. I would assume coaches like Saban, Meyer, Hoke, etc know a little more than me, but we will see I guess lol. Sorry to go off topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-zip Posted November 22, 2013 Report Share Posted November 22, 2013 Yes. Ferns blew up between his sophomore and junior seasons (I believe) at some camps. He then accumulated offers from great schools all over the country. Note that I am not trying to hate and wish him the best. Because its uncommon for a kid form our area to be such a touted recruit (probably biggest since Joey Galloway?), many people have paid close attention and share a similar opinion to me. I've caught a few games, including the state championship game a year ago, and, in my opinion, he just doesn't make the plays you would expect out of a recruit of his ranking, or really any plays at all. When I've watched many other players on the team stuck out more than him, but isn't necessarily a bad thing. Both WRs from last season went D1 (one to Purdue, one to Ohio), and the RB who graduates this year is going to YSU. Ferns is a great person, has hard work-ethic, and is a great athlete, but I am not impressed by the football player Michael Ferns. I would assume coaches like Saban, Meyer, Hoke, etc know a little more than me, but we will see I guess lol. Sorry to go off topic. LZip - you are very diplomatic, I appreciate your comments.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Posted November 23, 2013 Report Share Posted November 23, 2013 I don't think one more off topic comment is worth a new thread. We have a top 10 WR from our HS headed to Iowa State next year. He is a big, athletic kid with speed, but I would have rated him as a DB. He runs down field and the QB heaves a ball in his direction and he closes to make a catch. It just looks more like a DB going after an int. Maybe he shows route running skills in camps where there are better QB's. I hope they redshirt this kid; so you all can see him when ISU visits Akron.(Wait a min. that game may be in '19.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendofzippy Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yes. Ferns blew up between his sophomore and junior seasons (I believe) at some camps. He then accumulated offers from great schools all over the country. Note that I am not trying to hate and wish him the best. Because its uncommon for a kid form our area to be such a touted recruit (probably biggest since Joey Galloway?), many people have paid close attention and share a similar opinion to me. I've caught a few games, including the state championship game a year ago, and, in my opinion, he just doesn't make the plays you would expect out of a recruit of his ranking, or really any plays at all. When I've watched many other players on the team stuck out more than him, but isn't necessarily a bad thing. Both WRs from last season went D1 (one to Purdue, one to Ohio), and the RB who graduates this year is going to YSU. Ferns is a great person, has hard work-ethic, and is a great athlete, but I am not impressed by the football player Michael Ferns. I would assume coaches like Saban, Meyer, Hoke, etc know a little more than me, but we will see I guess lol. Sorry to go off topic. Good info on Ferns, thanks. Seems like a good kid. I don't like scUM, but hope he does well. Dante Booker was being questioned, but I don't know about that one. Bill Greene is a good follow on Twitter and he posted this last week: @BillBankGreene 22 Nov Dante Booker just played the best game I've seen from a defensive player this season. St Vincent rolled over Hubbard. Looking to repeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 Yes. Ferns blew up between his sophomore and junior seasons (I believe) at some camps. He then accumulated offers from great schools all over the country. Note that I am not trying to hate and wish him the best. Because its uncommon for a kid form our area to be such a touted recruit (probably biggest since Joey Galloway?), many people have paid close attention and share a similar opinion to me. I've caught a few games, including the state championship game a year ago, and, in my opinion, he just doesn't make the plays you would expect out of a recruit of his ranking, or really any plays at all. When I've watched many other players on the team stuck out more than him, but isn't necessarily a bad thing. Both WRs from last season went D1 (one to Purdue, one to Ohio), and the RB who graduates this year is going to YSU. Ferns is a great person, has hard work-ethic, and is a great athlete, but I am not impressed by the football player Michael Ferns. I would assume coaches like Saban, Meyer, Hoke, etc know a little more than me, but we will see I guess lol. Sorry to go off topic. He fidgets too much between plays. Always adjusting something about his uniform or pads. It may seem like a petty thing to pick on, but I don't like that kind of nervousness in a player. To me, it is a sign of a lack of confidence. He was a really good high school player, but not BCS level. Michigan will be wasting a scholarship with him. A little too passive as well. He made a horrible error in committing to Michigan while in 10th grade. High school coaches should do a better job of steering kids away from early decision such as that. I have a relative who coached this guy in high school. He was one of the best high school LBs I have ever seen..tough, fast, smart, "a nose for the ball", etc. He couldn't get on the field at MSU much at all. He was way better than Ferns in high school playing against much better top tier competition around Columbus and just wasn't able to make the next step. Some guys just don't make the transition well. St. Clairsville has a kid by the last name of Stewart who just finished his 10th grade season. I saw he was on the sidelines before the Penn State game last weekend. Keep an eye on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyFan Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 I saw Ferns play twice last year. I was not impressed on either occasion. He got beat up in both games. Neither opponent ran away from him in fact they ran right at him alot. He definitely looks the part but I dont see him playing at that level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendofzippy Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 He fidgets too much between plays. Always adjusting something about his uniform or pads. It may seem like a petty thing to pick on, but I don't like that kind of nervousness in a player. To me, it is a sign of a lack of confidence. He was a really good high school player, but not BCS level. Michigan will be wasting a scholarship with him. A little too passive as well. He made a horrible error in committing to Michigan while in 10th grade. High school coaches should do a better job of steering kids away from early decision such as that. You're suggesting a coach tells a player not to accept a full-ride from a school like Michigan? As a coach you'd have a very short career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted November 25, 2013 Report Share Posted November 25, 2013 You're suggesting a coach tells a player not to accept a full-ride from a school like Michigan? As a coach you'd have a very short career. He doesn't have anything in writing yet. The only offer that matters is the letter of intent. Verbals don't count. I'm suggesting he advise his players to keep their options open when they are in 10th grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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