skip-zip Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Ellen gives Zips something for their bulletin board "Toledo (14-2, 2-1) plays at Akron (11-5, 3-0), 11 a.m. Saturday on ESPNU, in what could be the passing of the torch in the Mid-American Conference." Can someone tweet this to Tree? That ticks me off. So, after our almost decade-long run of success in the MAC, 7 straight title games, and 2 straight regular season titles, he's suggesting that a team coming off of probation with a 2-1 start should somehow be more highly regarded then us if they win this 1 basketball game? Thanks for giving us our due respect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Ellen gives Zips something for their bulletin board "Toledo (14-2, 2-1) plays at Akron (11-5, 3-0), 11 a.m. Saturday on ESPNU, in what could be the passing of the torch in the Mid-American Conference." Can someone tweet this to Tree? This is the same guy who had Bowling Green as one of the top 5 basketball programs in Ohio. Who cares what he has to say about this game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 a team coming off of probation with a 2-1 start should somehow be more highly regarded then us if they win this 1 basketball game?His reasoning:UT's entire starting five averages double figures. It has an elite point guard in Julius Brown (13.4 points) who averages 7.2 assists, double what Akron's top two guards had combined. And it has an elite power forward in J.D. Weatherspoon (11.3 points, 6.0 rebounds) to counter Akron's leading scorer and rebounder, Demetrius Treadwell (13.2/ 7.8). It's a contrast in styles for UT and Akron....But where Toledo seems well oiled, scoring 84.2 points a game and shooting 48.6 percent from the floor, the Zips struggle just to make it to the final buzzer on top.Poor decisions inside the final four minutes and suspect foul shooting make every game a nail-biter for Akron."We have to win until we clean these problems up,'' head coach Keith Dambrot said. "It is what it is right now. Eventually we can't make those mistakes. It's going to bite us." And Toledo has the teeth to do it.Sounds like they go with the theory of starting their best players. Some think it's better to finish with your best.FYI.@TheAKROWDIES & @uakron students - FREE donuts (300), FREE lunch (400), and a chance to win @beatsbydre (1,000) at #ZipsGameday tomorrow!— Akron Zips M Bball (@ZipsMBB) January 17, 2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 His reasoning: UT's entire starting five averages double figures. It has an elite point guard in Julius Brown (13.4 points) who averages 7.2 assists, double what Akron's top two guards had combined. And it has an elite power forward in J.D. Weatherspoon (11.3 points, 6.0 rebounds) to counter Akron's leading scorer and rebounder, Demetrius Treadwell (13.2/ 7.8). It's a contrast in styles for UT and Akron....But where Toledo seems well oiled, scoring 84.2 points a game and shooting 48.6 percent from the floor, the Zips struggle just to make it to the final buzzer on top.Poor decisions inside the final four minutes and suspect foul shooting make every game a nail-biter for Akron."We have to win until we clean these problems up,'' head coach Keith Dambrot said. "It is what it is right now. Eventually we can't make those mistakes. It's going to bite us." And Toledo has the teeth to do it. The torch passing comment might be a little early, but I have to agree with his logic, however, this is a team that lost to WMU and barely beat Buffalo so they are no juggernaut. Zips can win this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MontrealExposloveZippy Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Was our last nationally televised home game the BracketBuster last year (NDSU)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Toledo is more style than substance. While their starting five all average double-digit points per game, they have very little depth. They give up 74 points per game, and rely on fast-paced scoring more than defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Toledo has an unusually stable lineup. They're one of the few teams in the country where the same 5 starters have started all 16 games. The 5 starters are the team's 5 leading scorers, and all of them have averaged 26-33 minutes per game, with the top players off the bench averaging no more than 16 minutes. So there's been no question from day one about Toledo's lineup, and no performance problems, injuries or other incidents to disrupt the team's stability. All that experience playing together should make them the most cohesive team in the MAC, which makes their struggles against WMU and Buffalo all the more puzzling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Toledo has an unusually stable lineup. They're one of the few teams in the country where the same 5 starters have started all 16 games. The 5 starters are the team's 5 leading scorers, and all of them have averaged 26-33 minutes per game, with the top players off the bench averaging no more than 16 minutes. So there's been no question from day one about Toledo's lineup, and no performance problems, injuries or other incidents to disrupt the team's stability. All that experience playing together should make them the most cohesive team in the MAC, which makes their struggles against WMU and Buffalo all the more puzzling. Their struggles are not puzzling at all. When you only have five contributors on a team, neutralizing any of those players has a greater impact on that team's overall performance. Take away two players with defense, and they'll struggle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 The Blade: Styles Differ “We’re a better transition team,” (point guard Julius) Brown said. “They’re a little tougher team, if you ask me, as far as rebounding and things like that.” “Unless we play physical, we can’t beat anybody,” Dambrot said. I'm always interested in how we scheme to get points. Hope we have a plan, and it is not dribbling/passing the shot clock down to minimize Toledo's possessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZZZips Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Elton....Let's play the game and then see if the torch needs a new home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zips Win! Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 So are there any local restaurants opening up early for a pregame cold one? Euro Gyro opens at 10:30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 So are there any local restaurants opening up early for a pregame cold one? Euro Gyro opens at 10:30.We should have organized a Lot 9 cakes and ale tailgate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Don't think you can serve alcohol until 10 or 11 anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Don't think you can serve alcohol until 10 or 11 anyway If that were true, there'd be a lot of fines handed out on St Patrick's Day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 In Ohio, you can start serving at 5:30 am (source). You just need to find a place that's open. Back in the day, I know a few rapscallions that would work midnight shift and head to the bar early in the morning. Bars located close to mills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted January 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 The Zips' advantages: The Zips know how to win. The Zips are at home. Big crowd. Toledo's defense isn't anything special. The Zips outside shooting percentage is very high when they don't have a hand in their face. "Harney 20 Rule" is in effect. Forsythe continues to play with energy. No one at the mid-major level has been able to counteract Tree. Toledo's Advantages: They have a star that can pile up a ton of points. The Zips historically let opposing big-time scorers do what they want. Anyone's press ruins the Zips and creates buckets of turnovers. Toledo's will do the same. When Betancourt or Evans are on the court, it is 6-on-4 in Toledo's favor. The Zips will struggle in a close game due to the well-discussed FT shooting and turnovers. Winning in double OT at OU is no fluke. If Diggs can slow Pearson down, the Zips should win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GP1 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 So are there any local restaurants opening up early for a pregame cold one? Is there still a place on the east side of Akron called Duffy's? The used to serve breakfast and have a full bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 In Ohio, you can start serving at 5:30 am (source). You just need to find a place that's open. Back in the day, I know a few rapscallions that would work midnight shift and head to the bar early in the morning. Bars located close to mills. I see. Was in Wrigleyville for a game this summer and they had all the glasses lined up under the taps at a bar outside the stadium waiting for 10 am. Figured that was the law most places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Is there still a place on the east side of Akron called Duffy's? The used to serve breakfast and have a full bar. You are good to go at Duffys. Nothing quite like like getting all boozed up and abusing the officials for a great time at the gym (or so I am told) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Wonder what the line will be?? I think it's gotta be as close to a pick em as you can get. Maybe Akron -2 or -3 due to our success at home. Despite that though, Akron has been a very profitable go against lately, especially on the first half line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 I think it's gotta be as close to a pick em as you can get.I think the same, but I'm not good at guessing the line. That is what helps me with my decision sometimes. I don't like this game, I'll probably stay away from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staton14 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Ellen gives Zips something for their bulletin board "Toledo (14-2, 2-1) plays at Akron (11-5, 3-0), 11 a.m. Saturday on ESPNU, in what could be the passing of the torch in the Mid-American Conference." Can someone tweet this to Tree? This is a legitimate question...why does Elton always disrespect the Zips? Does anyone have any insight on this topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staton14 Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 Now down to 318 tickets remaining. With walk-up sales it should be a sell-out tomorrow (assuming student turnout is what they are estimating, whatever that may be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 TeamRankings.com predicts 51.7% chance of a Zips win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 The torch passing comment might be a little early, but I have to agree with his logic, however, this is a team that lost to WMU and barely beat Buffalo so they are no juggernaut. That's my point. He seems anxious to dethrone us and discount all of our consistent success with a Toledo team that's come out of nowhere, and is only 2-1 in conference play, and hasn't been all that impressive? Even if we lose, there's still a ton of games left, and Toledo has already shown that they will lose league games this year. He's relying on selected stats. It's just very, very early to be making that kind of statement, and very disrespectful of our long record of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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