ewbrooman1 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 KD just announced on Joe Dunn's radio show that the Zips will play in the preseason NIT. Probably 4 games. 1 home, 3 road. Likely opponents - Wisc Green Bay (home), Arkansas and Villanova. Mentioned a couple others, too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Awesome!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roopride Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Will this be their only tournament then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Now we're talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewbrooman1 Posted April 17, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Will this be their only tournament then?Maybe one in Las Vegas too, according to Joe D. No details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Good news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morris buttermaker Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 No complaints here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsrule Posted April 17, 2015 Report Share Posted April 17, 2015 Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 Great news, love the names mentioned so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 If these are the likely opponents, this is a JACKPOT for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyman23 Posted April 18, 2015 Report Share Posted April 18, 2015 I'll have to wait and see how this is actually going to be set up first. Not that big of fan of playing the road games. Hoping some will be at neutral site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpsjugglerdude Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 These teams had final RPI of 2, 20, and 55. Great opportunity for the Zips. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balsy Posted April 19, 2015 Report Share Posted April 19, 2015 How are teams picked for this tournament? Is there a formula, or a cycle that they go through? I'm just curious if all the 20+ win seasons plays into a selection or not....because we weren't champions last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Didn't the preseason NIT change their format last year? While I love the opponents the Zips could potentially play I would not be for them playing in a tournament where it is already predetermined that they cannot make the semifinals or finals. When you play in a tournament you should at least have a chance (no matter how remote) of winning that championship. Predetermined semifinalists in an 8 team "tournament" does not sit well with me. It feels too much like discriminatory bias. We get enough of that in football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyman23 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 How are teams picked for this tournament? Is there a formula, or a cycle that they go through? I'm just curious if all the 20+ win seasons plays into a selection or not....because we weren't champions last year.Selection process is the same as any other early season tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave in Green Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 These teams had final RPI of 2, 20, and 55. Great opportunity for the Zips.That's the most important point. I don't even think of it as being a true tournament when mid-majors like the Zips aren't eligible to play for the tournament championship. The value to the Zips is not being in the tournament but in the strength of the individual teams added to the schedule. Villanova and Arkansas provide the kind of challenging road games against top 25 high-major teams that will help prepare the Zips for the kind of opponent they'd likely meet in the first round of the NCAA tournament while Wisconsin Green Bay is a solid mid-major program to add to the home schedule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 That's the most important point. I don't even think of it as being a true tournament when mid-majors like the Zips aren't eligible to play for the tournament championship. The value to the Zips is not being in the tournament but in the strength of the individual teams added to the schedule. Villanova and Arkansas provide the kind of challenging road games against top 25 high-major teams that will help prepare the Zips for the kind of opponent they'd likely meet in the first round of the NCAA tournament while Wisconsin Green Bay is a solid mid-major program to add to the home schedule. I agree that who you play has now become more important than what title you can or can't play for. I just don't like the trend and as long as top mid-majors continue to submit to the discrimination it will continue but I understand they can't afford to turn down the games either. I just don't get what is wrong with the idea of a mid-major EARNING the right to play for a title? The Zips played in one of these things a few years back and beat Mississippi State (if I recall the opponent correctly) in the first game, only to see MSU win that tournament championship. I remember thinking then how much better the Zips OOC schedule would have been had they advanced to play the teams that their defeated opponent was able to go on and play in the event. At least it sounds as if the Preseason NIT will provide a substantial schedule win or lose. I just don't like the precedent that is being set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Win all the games we're given, and when somebody else claims the title, have marketing shout it form the rooftops that we're the real champions in an unfair format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Win all the games we're given, and when somebody else claims the title, have marketing shout it form the rooftops that we're the real champions in an unfair format.About a tournament that means nothing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Wait a minute, are you saying that we play a game but win or lose we can not advance while others can? I do not support playing in that, no matter who is on the schedule. That is just nonsense.Too bad, I was planning to travel to Villanova to see the game, but not under those circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gozips19 Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Heard Joe D mention Akron possibly playing Bradley in Vegas on the radio today. I am guessing that Akron is using some of the money set aside from last year when they didn't participate in any post season trouney's. Could be a very fortuitous move by KD and the AD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 About a tournament that means nothing?If we win, it means we're better than the teams we beat. And if the teams we beat are good, that means we're good. And if we're good, we should let as many people know as possible.And it doesn't "mean nothing". That's because it's in the beginning of the season instead of the end like the CIT. This mas meaning for the NCAA selection committee. It has meaning for momentum going into the rest of the season. And it has meaning for media coverage. You get yourself in the spotlight, and you don't let yourself get out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OU Dude Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 Gary Trent and the Bobcats won the preseason NIT in 1994, it was good exposure. How's this for a tournament lineup- @Ohio State, @#14 Virginia, then George Washington and New Mexico State @MSG in NYC. Side note- the rest of Ohio OOC that year was @Kentucky(L), @UC-Irvine(W), @Iowa(L), Wright State(W), @Xavier(L), West Virginia(W), and Duquesne(W). Heck of a lineup.Looks like a great opportunity for the Zips next year. I think the MAC in on the verge of having a team earn an at-large bid and a strong OOC schedule is a crucial. Good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted April 20, 2015 Report Share Posted April 20, 2015 If we win, it means we're better than the teams we beat. And if the teams we beat are good, that means we're good. And if we're good, we should let as many people know as possible.And it doesn't "mean nothing". That's because it's in the beginning of the season instead of the end like the CIT. This mas meaning for the NCAA selection committee. It has meaning for momentum going into the rest of the season. And it has meaning for media coverage. You get yourself in the spotlight, and you don't let yourself get out of it.My argument is that there isn't much value in being named "winner" of the tournament. The value is in playing and having a chance to beat big name opponents. I'm confident that nobody on this board knows the winner of this last season without looking it up, because all it is is another early season tourney. Come tourney selection time, nobody is going to care that Villanova won the Preseason NIT, but they would care if we had a win over Nova.I'm pretty sure we have never beaten a top 25 team, so us winning anything would be a complete long shot. Even if we don't win any it would be great experience to prepare us for the tourney if we make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akronzips71 Posted April 21, 2015 Report Share Posted April 21, 2015 We should not consent to being treated as second class citizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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