lance99 Posted October 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 EMU's run defense is indescribably bad.My question is how bad? Is the number skewed because they played Army, or is it just that bad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 My question is how bad? Is the number skewed because they played Army, or is it just that bad?Wyoming ran for 430 yards. Old Dominion ran for 229 yards. Ball State ran for 278 yards. It's not just from Army and LSU bowling them over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lance99 Posted October 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Wyoming ran for 430 yards. Old Dominion ran for 229 yards. Ball State ran for 278 yards. It's not just from Army and LSU bowling them over.Oh pk, just was not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Zips 17, EMU 6. Hundley for 170. Woodson 175 in the air, 60 on the ground. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Rowdy....If we do get 170 rushing yards out of Hundley, and 60 out of Woodson, and another 175 in the air.......I can GUARANTEE you that we will score more than 17 points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Weekly press conference for those interested in the game. Paraphrasing coach:• The national championship will be played with two teams that play power I football. • Our offense is to score one more point than the other team while we figure out who we are offensively. Until then, play good D, and don't turn the ball over.Last year there were 0 teams running the power I.Year before: 0.2013: 02012: 12011: 22010: 0I'd wager some money it doesn't happen this year either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Last year there were 0 teams running the power I. I'd wager some money it doesn't happen this year either. Here is 2014 data on run/pass ratio for 65 power conference teams, combined with Football Outsiders S&P+ rankings, which show each offense's overall quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 I'll go Zips 31, Hurons 21.While I like our D a lot, Eastern has moved the ball pretty well against everyone - even LSU. I don't think we'll shut them down, but the Zip offense SHOULD have a much easier time that they did last week. EMU will probably stuff the box, especially early on; so the "run it down their throat" approach might not be as effective as one might think based solely on season stats. I look for a balanced attack, akin to what we saw against the Cajuns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Here is 2014 data on run/pass ratio for 65 power conference teams, combined with Football Outsiders S&P+ rankings, which show each offense's overall quality.I understand. This link shows how much teams ran/threw. What it doesn't say is out of what formations they ran & threw. Power I is a formation that not many FBS teams run. A real quick check to determine whether or not a team anyone has in mind runs the Power I or not is the simple question "does the qb take the snap from under center"? Not many teams do that and you ain't runnin' the power I out of the shotgun.Perhaps Bowden meant the 2 teams in the College Football Championship™ will be run heavy squads. That could definitely be true. That could be two teams that run spread offenses and run a lot.I have a feeling we will not see 2 teams that line up like this in the game on January 11. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrship35 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Pretty sure he may have meant a pistol formation ............... But maybe not Tried to post some pics ........ But have no juice on the board to do so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Perhaps Bowden meant the 2 teams in the College Football Championship™ will be run heavy squads.I would guess it's a matter of semantics. Notice he speaks of the 21 personnel and the H back. Don't forget, you can still go 4 wide with 21. I would love to read an article on the evolution of our offense over the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 I would guess it's a matter of semantics. Notice he speaks of the 21 personnel and the H back. Don't forget, you can still go 4 wide with 21. I would love to read an article on the evolution of our offense over the season. The numbers on personnel formations denote the number of running backs(first number) and tight ends(second number). If you go 4 wide, you're running 10 personnel. The Zips have mostly operated out of 10 & 11 personnel this season with some other formations as well. They are actually pretty multiple this year. By far the most multiple they have been under Bowden by far.I'm with you, I would like to see the breakdown of our formation ratios and what we run out of those formations and how they have changed once Woodson got behind center.As far as the Power I goes though. . .I can remember in yesteryear this formation being a real handful to defend but you need the right pieces, starting with an offensive line that eats raw meat. You usually have a stud tailback that receives the lion's share of the glory, but the best Power I teams had a stud flanker and a TE and FB that could block like linemen and catch passes like a WR.Actually, when we speak of power football, rarely is the "Power I" formation used for anything other than short yardage because the "Power I" is technically 2 FB & 1 TB either in 31 or 32 personnel. Most of what we call power football or smashmouth is run out of the I.I love talking about football. I just wish I was more knowledgeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Z Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 The numbers on personnel formations denote the number of running backs(first number) and tight ends(second number). If you go 4 wide, you're running 10 personnel.If you put a rb and a te in the slot with two wr, you have 21 with 4 wide. A common formation to try to get mismatches. The Browns run a 21 personnel with 5 wide on the Duke Johnson TD pass on Sunday. Both RB's lined up outside. Great designed play. Two LB's were covering both RBs. Think personnel, not formations. Before Hernandez went to jail, the Patriots used to run 12 with 4 wide (2 WR with Gronk and Hernandez). The could run hurry up, and pack it back in and pound the ball with the same personnel package. If you tried to substitute, they would spread em back out. Personnel chart for reference.I've recommended this book before, but I'll do it again. It really helps you take labels off of an offense and realize what a team is trying to accomplish. While I'm recommending stuff, Bernie Kosar has a show called 'Sports Zone', I love it. I wish he spent more time breaking down plays because he is a football genius, but it's awesome for those who appreciate his personality like I do too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrship35 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 To me, this is the formation that we could utilize Woodson to run or pass best.... Opens up the middle for ball control passes and Woodson only needs a seam to get to the second level. Again, the half A$$'d fake hand off and QB keep is so predictable and telegraphed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 If you put a rb and a te in the slot with two wr, you have 21 with 4 wide. A common formation to try to get mismatches. The Browns run a 21 personnel with 5 wide on the Duke Johnson TD pass on Sunday. Both RB's lined up outside. Great designed play. Two LB's were covering both RBs. Think personnel, not formations. Before Hernandez went to jail, the Patriots used to run 12 with 4 wide (2 WR with Gronk and Hernandez). The could run hurry up, and pack it back in and pound the ball with the same personnel package. If you tried to substitute, they would spread em back out. Personnel chart for reference.Right on. I got you. Ohio utilized their 11 personnel in 5 wide to get the mismatch of Dylan Evans on a slot receiver. They exploited that a couple of times. I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrship35 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 looking at the total defense, rushing and passing defenses and team sacks of the 5 opponents EMU has played:ODU - 80th total, 106th rush, 37th pass, T-71st sacksWyoming - 88th total, 111th rush, 41st pass, T-118 sacks Ball State - 113th total, 90th rush, 101st pass, T-90 sacksArmy - 73rd total, 53rd rush, 86th pass, T-45 sacksLSU - 16th total, 19th rush, 36th pass, T-24 sacksAkron - 25th total, 13th rush, 69th pass, T-29 sacks EMU had 3 drives ..... 8 play 59 yard, a 2 play 17 yard and a 4 play 66 yard against LSU I think we are going to be fine Saturday on defense ..... with the exception of LSU (22 points), our defense seems in a different category compared to the other 4 opponents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Tried to post some pics ........ But have no juice on the board to do so Anybody can post pics, Jr. I think there was a thread on it but I can't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrship35 Posted October 8, 2015 Report Share Posted October 8, 2015 Anybody can post pics, Jr. I think there was a thread on it but I can't find it.No worries ....... Nothing that no one probably hasn't seen of the Redskin's pistol formation with RG3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Kangaroo Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Louisiana got whipped again last week. They may not be what everyone thought they were.But Savannah State might be better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zipsoutsider Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Zips 17, EMU 6. Hundley for 170. Woodson 175 in the air, 60 on the ground.You are barking up the right tree. I also see Deandre Scott with 2 interceptions.Zips 34 EMU 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Right on. I got you. Ohio utilized their 11 personnel in 5 wide to get the mismatch of Dylan Evans on a slot receiver. They exploited that a couple of times. I'm a little slow on the uptake sometimes.Dylan Evans getting exploited seems like a weekly occurrence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyzip84 Posted October 9, 2015 Report Share Posted October 9, 2015 Here's a pretty decent preview on Hustlebelt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z.I.P. Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Watched the first qtr of last week's LSU game, EMU looked awful. Thought they would give up 60 to the Bayou Bengals. So, I have to think LSU took their eye off the ball, or were looking ahead to the trip to Columbia...which they won't make. Still, our 'O' isn't enough to scare many teams. Akron 27-24. Now, can anyone describe the color of the Eagles road pants & helmet? Variation on Duke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDZip Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 That gray turf makes it look like there's either something wrong with the color on my TV or it's broadcasting from the fifties. :-) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted October 10, 2015 Report Share Posted October 10, 2015 Come on, O-line. Play ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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