NWAkron Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 #69...Monmouth #86. But Valpo in 40s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 7 minutes ago, gozips19 said: I know most on this board talk about Akrons RPI but it seems ESPN and probably the selection committee is using BPI. I'm not sure how Akron stacks up in that department but I'm guessing it's not in the 30's. You are right that they would be much lower as they are 69th. That still puts them well ahead of Monmouth who is 86th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, gozips19 said: I know most on this board talk about Akrons RPI but it seems ESPN and probably the selection committee is using BPI. I'm not sure how Akron stacks up in that department but I'm guessing it's not in the 30's. Last time I checked, Zips were barely in the top 1/4 of D1 in BPI. The funny thing is, a few years back, the selection committee used RPI as a selection tool but it didn't punish mid and small conferences enough. Now we have BPI, Pomeroy, and Sagarin... all metrics that give big advantages to difficult schedules and major conference teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Of course, no Akron fan would be surprised if they relied upon any new measure which they could use as an excuse to exclude the "non-power" teams. We all know that the process is highly subjective. And we all know that this subjectivity leads to teams being picked for reasons outside of performance, such as a teams "past reputation" and fan base. But please, I hope nobody here wants to start a debate over whether one measure is relied upon more than another. If we all knew the exact formula for being selected, we'd all be doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 2 minutes ago, skip-zip said: Of course, no Akron fan would be surprised if they relied upon any new measure which they could use as an excuse to exclude the "non-power" teams. We all know that the process is highly subjective. And we all know that this subjectivity leads to teams being picked for reasons outside of performance, such as a teams "past reputation" and fan base. But please, I hope nobody here wants to start a debate over whether one measure is relied upon more than another. If we all knew the exact formula for being selected, we'd all be doing it. Let's hope that subjectivity does not include notoriety from a team being on Sportscenter because of the antics of their bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 My favorite is Michigan being 3-11 vs the top 100 and still being a "bubble team." They're also 10-11 vs the top 200. But you know, we can't even get a mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 5 minutes ago, RowdyZip said: My favorite is Michigan being 3-11 vs the top 100 and still being a "bubble team." OSWho is 3-9 against the Top 100, and they are being discussed as a "last 4 out". So they are in the discussion too, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 That's because nobody gives a crap about these made up parameters to compare teams. The committee cares about who you have beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) I feel people have their own preconceived conclusions about which teams they like and they use whatever metric that they can find to support their claim. There certainly is no shortage of them out there. Edited March 10, 2016 by kreed5120 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippyman23 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, gozips19 said: I know most on this board talk about Akrons RPI but it seems ESPN and probably the selection committee is using BPI. I'm not sure how Akron stacks up in that department but I'm guessing it's not in the 30's. ESPN created the BPI a couple years ago in response to the growing popularity in other metrics like KenPom and Sagarin. They reference it for self-promotion. Edited March 10, 2016 by zippyman23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Akron's RPI has climbed to #29 with the win. Lot of games going on today so it is highly likely that number will change one way or another by days end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 (edited) If I'm reading KPI info correctly, they have confirmed that many of tournament committee pay for memberships to KenPom, and highly regard his ratings when determining seeding and at-large. We're ranked 84 on his list. However, KPI, which aims to place tournament seeding on each team, has us at #44 (of the teams entering the tourney) which would put us solidly in the 11-12 range. Edited March 10, 2016 by aorians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 The fighting John Groce's take down Iowa. Who saw that one coming? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyZip Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Don't know if it's been posted, but www.bracketmatrix.com It takes about one hundred bracketology sites and simulates seeding. They have Akron as a middle 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 SDSU nearly fell to the Aggies before pulling away in the final 10 seconds. Relevant because SDSU is one of the few 1 bid conference teams remaining that would be seeded above Akron assuming that they win their tournament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Lunardi's bracketology from yesterday has us as a 12 seed in Denver against Iowa State. Which isn't really too remarkable, but they also have Iowa playing in Denver. We'd have a lot of Zip fans out there for a day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Zip Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 We know we're not getting an at large, but our RPI is at 30 now compliments of several teams from our OOC playing well right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Of note UAB fell yesterday. That should help Marshall's chances of winning the CUSA title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZippers Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Not saying that I necessarily agree, but interesting. Teamrankings.com lists the Zips as having a 50/50 shot at getting an at large bid to the NCAA tourney. It surprised me, I haven't heard this from anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtyolcrowe Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 18 hours ago, UAZippers said: Not saying that I necessarily agree, but interesting. Teamrankings.com lists the Zips as having a 50/50 shot at getting an at large bid to the NCAA tourney. It surprised me, I haven't heard this from anywhere else. just win F-ing game!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) 19 hours ago, UAZippers said: Not saying that I necessarily agree, but interesting. Teamrankings.com lists the Zips as having a 50/50 shot at getting an at large bid to the NCAA tourney. It surprised me, I haven't heard this from anywhere else. Thanks for sharing this. I think you're right. Nobody is talking about AKRON. But I will stick with what I have been saying since January. Our RPI needed to get under #30 to make it happen. It's at #29 right, but it wouldn't stay there if we lost tonight. I still believe we fell about 2 wins short. The Miami and NIU road games would have changed all of that. But YES, it's sure nice to hear someone finally talking about Akron. Edited March 12, 2016 by skip-zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZippyRulz Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) So WZIP covers OU and Buffalo sports...who knew? http://blogs.uakron.edu/wzip/2016/03/11/buffalo-bulls-to-face-akron-in-mac-championship/ Edited March 12, 2016 by ZippyRulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 (edited) On 3/10/2016 at 11:26 AM, LZIp said: That's because nobody gives a crap about these made up parameters to compare teams. The committee cares about who you have beat. ROFLMAO Its all about putting butts in the tournament seats. No one, and I mean no one on the selection committee gives a damn about who you beat. Follow the money. Power Five schools dominate because that is where the money is. That is why you could see a P5 team that got waxed in OOC play and finish 8-10 in conference get a bid over a 26-8 MAC team that lost the MAC championship game. Change the rules so that P5 conferences are limited to FIVE bids and watch the shenanigans disappear. No more schlock <gag> Michigan RPI 179 beating an Indiana RPI 5 in a Pig Ten post season tournament. Once P5 schools have to compete instead of a wink and a hand shake, you will see REAL post season basketball. Groce would be updating his resume instead of basking in a victory <choke> over Iowa. P5 schools learned the hard way to not let the Butler's, VCU's and others get deep in the tourney. Simply do not schedule the Akron's and Iona's, Keep the two tier system and keep the money in the P5 world. p.s. Heard from a reliable source that if the Zips lose the MAC championship game their next game is a loss in Columbus. Book it, Danno. (from the hit TV series Hawai'i 5-0 of past generations) p.s.s I do not give a damn about what Michigan or Indiana's RPI are. I made those numbers up. Sorry, wonks, pee down your other leg. Edited March 12, 2016 by GoZips spelling error 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Oh man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Geez..GoZips...you had me right up until the bitter end of that post with the declaration that the Zips will lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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