clarkwgriswold Posted December 11, 2016 Report Share Posted December 11, 2016 The Thundering Herd comes into the JAR on Saturday 12/17. This could be a very important OOC game. It will also be a good barometer as to development of the team and a strong test going into the holiday tournament and MAC play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 (edited) They play a pretty small front court. Their starting PF comes in at 6'5, but puts up pretty solid numbers 12.5 points 6.8 boards on 60% shooting. Kwan needs to exploit his size in the post. Something he failed to do against Gonzaga. Their starting C is 6'7 217lbs, but has missed the last 4 games due to an abdominal injury. No clue if he will be healthy by Saturday. The guy starting in his place comes in at 6'9 222, but has only played about 15 minutes each game accumulating at least 4 fouls in each. Nobody has the size to handle Big Dog 1 on 1. Their 3 starting guards each average 31.8 minutes per game or more (Elmore, Loop, and Browning). Jon Elmore is the only player in D1 basketball averaging 23+ points and 7+ assists. 62 of 65 of Loop's shot attempts have come from 3 and he is shooting .484 from 3. Browning is their 2nd leading scorer and posts efficient numbers a cross the board (.495 FG%, .400 3P%, and .909 FT%). Edit:Offensively we just need to keep doing what we've been doing and feed Big Dog. They will have no option but to bring the double. We should be able to bait them into fouls in the process. Defensively I'd have Robotham and Williams (when he's on the court) babysit their 3 point specialist and have Antino and Ivey guard their dynamic play making guards. Edited December 12, 2016 by kreed5120 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hip Zip Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Do not expect any shot violations. The Herd is in the top ten in possessions per game, and as would be expected at that pace, also near the bottom in scoring defense. Should be a fun one to watch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GK4Herd Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Greetings from WV. I'm bringing a group up for the game on the 17th. I've taken a cursory glance at tickets and all I'm seeing is upper level on line. Is it difficult getting tickets on lower level? I'm seeing the visitor's section is L. Any advice? Thanks for any responses in advance and good luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hilltopper Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, GK4Herd said: Greetings from WV. I'm bringing a group up for the game on the 17th. I've taken a cursory glance at tickets and all I'm seeing is upper level on line. Is it difficult getting tickets on lower level? I'm seeing the visitor's section is L. Any advice? Thanks for any responses in advance and good luck. Lower level is sold out to season ticket holders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, GK4Herd said: Greetings from WV. I'm bringing a group up for the game on the 17th. I've taken a cursory glance at tickets and all I'm seeing is upper level on line. Is it difficult getting tickets on lower level? I'm seeing the visitor's section is L. Any advice? Thanks for any responses in advance and good luck. You may be able to get tickets through Marshall in that corner section behind your team bench (I am assuming that is the Section L you are referencing). There are seats there for families and supporter of the visitors. But for the most part, Hilltopper's information about the lower section being sold out to season ticket holders before the start of the season is correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 2 hours ago, GK4Herd said: Greetings from WV. I'm bringing a group up for the game on the 17th. I've taken a cursory glance at tickets and all I'm seeing is upper level on line. Is it difficult getting tickets on lower level? I'm seeing the visitor's section is L. Any advice? Thanks for any responses in advance and good luck. If you can't get L level tickets don't worry. The arena's not very big so there aren't many bad seats in the house. However, if you want to save your backside from sitting on bleachers, make sure to purchase seats in the Upper Reserved section. I believe they're only $5 more, IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 the upper level bleachers behind the teams aren't bad seats and are general admission. Even the bleachers behind the backboards can be a good place to watch the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K92 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 The only really bad seats are the upper level seats at the track level where can't see the floor over the top railing of the glass partition. If you are not high enough to see over that black line, you will get annoyed quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GK4Herd Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Thank you very much guys. I'm bringing seven people up for the game and look forward to visiting. A little info about our team. The coach is Dan D'antoni, the brother of NBA coach Mike D'antoni now at Houston. He is in his third season at Marshall. As you noted above this team is talented at the guard position, especially with Jon Elmore who is averaging top 10 numbers nationally for both scoring and assists. Jon isn't overly athletic but can hurt you both shooting and taking it to the basket. The weakness of this team is definitely in the paint. We return senior Ryan Taylor who is very athletic, but at 6'5" he struggles with foul trouble defending in the paint. Our problems down low has been exacerbated by the absence of our starting center, Thompson. He has been out for several games with a torn stomach muscle. Fortunately he is expected to return to the lineup against you guys Saturday. In his absence we started a 6'9" European (Penava) who has length and athleticism but is thin and lacks strength. He can run the floor and make an occasional three-pointer as well as finish pick and rolls but sometimes has trouble finishing underneath due to his lack of strength. He too struggles with foul trouble. We bring freshman guard Allison off the bench as well. One of last years top players, Burks is sitting out first semester due to academics and isn't expected back till the game after our game Saturday. I think the game comes down to differences in style. We run a very fast paced offense and put up a ton of shots. We never post up our bigs and their points usually comes from drives and pick and rolls. When we are on our game we can score some points. Unfortunately we are still a few players short underneath and defend poorly in the paint. Having Thompson back will definitely help. But I'm going to assume you guys will try to exploit that weakness and try to pound it down low early and put us in foul trouble. When we get in foul trouble we play very soft underneath. You guys are a good team and we have had our struggles on the road this year, especially with our center being out. This probably gives you guys the edge and I suspect you will be favored in the game by 6-8 points. I look forward to coming up and thanks for the info. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Wow GK4Herd, I wish we could get a preview from our opponents like that for every game. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GJGood Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Being from West Virginia Tavian Dunn-Martin will likely know a few players on the Thundering Herd roster. http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/marshall_sports/mu-basketball-notebook-ex-prep-stars-to-face-off/article_6fd2357f-3786-5638-b188-fc59491c16bf.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kreed5120 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 Well it's game day folks. Akron appears to enter this game as 8 point favorites. http://www.oddsshark.com/ncaab/odds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 High-scoring Marshall presents another Saturday night test for Zips (good article by GT) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted December 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 For some reason, I'm a little worried about this one. Hope I am wrong. Our years old inability to stop penetration by quick guards has me worried. It should be a little of a contrast of styles with Marshall pushing the ball and chucking up shots while the Zips run a more deliberate structured offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skip-zip Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 I think these guys have had some growth defensively. The tests over the last couple of weeks should help. Holding them well under their average would be a good accomplishment. Besides, I'm sure they've played plenty of teams who are not going to be nearly as defensively focused as we usually are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewbrooman1 Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 According to the listing guide on my TV, the men's game is supposed to be on TWSC 311 and 1311. Not that the ABJ seems to know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GK4Herd Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 The game is also listed on ESPN3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 (edited) ESPN shows that the game will be streaming on ESPN3. ??? WatchESPN Edited December 17, 2016 by Blue & Gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted December 17, 2016 Report Share Posted December 17, 2016 On 12/12/2016 at 7:28 PM, GK4Herd said: Greetings from WV. I'm bringing a group up for the game on the 17th. I've taken a cursory glance at tickets and all I'm seeing is upper level on line. Is it difficult getting tickets on lower level? I'm seeing the visitor's section is L. Any advice? Thanks for any responses in advance and good luck. Hope you guys are safe driving up here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kreed5120 Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 So I heard that Marshall/Akron just signed another 4 year home and home contract so expect to see them on the schedule for the coming years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 ^^I like it. They should just re-join the MAC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue & Gold Posted December 18, 2016 Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 I love how Marshall's unatletic white boys run the floor! Why is it we can't do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clarkwgriswold Posted December 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2016 Wow, that was an entertaining game. Marshall sure runs the floor and moves the ball. If they have one or two even average big men, they could be really dangerous. They will win a lot of games. Zips did a nice job on Elmore. Antino didn't do a lot offensively, but really worked hard on Elmore. I really liked the surprise 2-3 zone the Zips threw in there unexpectedly. It seemed to catch Marshall a little by surprise too. We also handled the 1-2-2 press pretty well. Nice rebound after the tough ones against Creighton and Gonzaga. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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