kreed5120 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 28 minutes ago, zippy5 said: He went to the Sweet Sixteen and won 3 tournament games at OU. He won 1 less MAC tournament in 4 years than KD did in 13. The only thing I don't like about it is that we will go through the Groce leaving rumors pretty much every offseason if he's successful. Such is mid major life Good problem to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Never cared much for Groce's demeanor on the court. You can tell he comes from the Thad Matta coaching tree, as his face gets just as red as Thad's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba4three Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Debating if Groce is a good coach is a legitimate discussion. Debating if the regular season or NCAA tournament is more important is not a legitimate discussion. NCAA Tournament wins> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUAkronG Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lilroodude said: Never cared much for Groce's demeanor on the court. You can tell he comes from the Thad Matta coaching tree, as his face gets just as red as Thad's. Exactly this. 100%. I think there's a fine line between fiery and belligerent and in my eyes Groce used to be on the wrong side of that line more often than not. Edited April 4, 2017 by bUAkronG 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 7 minutes ago, Bubba4three said: Debating if Groce is a good coach is a legitimate discussion. Debating if the regular season or NCAA tournament is more important is not a legitimate discussion. NCAA Tournament wins> When you have a coach like Dambrot for as long as we did, it's hard to get that regular season matters mentality out of the way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 I'd like regular season and tournament titles, please and thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UAZippers Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Dambrot was routinely criticized for his on court demeanor by pretty much every other MAC team's fans. He threw plenty of fits over officials while he was here. I don't think having a red face makes a person a bad coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 10 minutes ago, bUAkronG said: Exactly this. 100%. I think there's a fine line between fiery and belligerent and in my eyes Groce used to be on the wrong side of that line more often than not. As long as he isn't getting excessive Ts I don't really care. I'll be busy watching the players. Take a gander at OU's board to see their thoughts. They kinda really hate this, so it's as if they liked the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) To add to my earlier post as I sit here bored at work, pondering a John Groce-led Zips program, Groce is part of the reason I came to dislike OU so much. With that being said... With a trip to the Sweet Sixteen, I'd consider going out and getting a beet-red John Groce tattoo. The fact that Caris LaVert had committed to OU (de-committed when Groce left, correct?) speaks volumes. Then again, Dambrot had a commitment from Dylan Ennis. I don't know. I'm torn. Edited April 4, 2017 by lilroodude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mes102 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Since this search is coming to an end it seems, here was the list of names I gave our AD on 3/28, a week ago from today. ========================================== Tom Crean - Former Indiana & Marquette head coach John Groce - Former Illinois & Ohio head coach Jack Perri - LIU-Brooklyn former head coach ============================================ Jeff Boals - StonyBrook current head coach Brian Jones - North Dakota current head coach John Becker - Vermont current head coach Nick McDevitt - UNC-Asheville current head coach Russell Turner - UC-Irvine current head coach Jim Less - UC-Davis current head coach Pat Skerry - Towson current head coach Greg Kampe - Oakland current head coach John Brennan - Northern Kentucky current head coach King Rice - Monmouth current head coach Tim Cluess - Iona current head coach Jamion Christian - Mount St. Mary's current head coach Rick Byrd - Belmont current head coach Ray Harper - Jacksonville State current head coach Brett Reed - Lehigh current head coach Mike Slessinger - New Orleans current head coach Rod Barnes - Cal State-Bakersfield current head coach ================================================= Lamont Paris - Wisconsin current associate head coach, NOW HIRED AS CHATTANOOGA HEAD COACH Travis Steele - Xavier current associate head coach Larry Davis - Cincinnati current associate head coach Kenny Johnson - Louisville current associate head coach Larry Harrison - West Virginia current associate head coach Dwayne Stephens - Michigan State current associate head coach Matt Figger - South Carolina current associate head coach, NOW HIRED AS AUSTIN PEAY HEAD COACH Rod Balanis - Notre Dame current associate head coach ================================================== Brian James - Northwestern assistant coach Steve Lutz - Creighton assistant coach Jerrance Howard - Kansas assistant coach Chris Jent - Ohio State current assistant coach Billy Donlon - Michigan current assistant coach, former Wright St head coach Terry Johnson - Butler current assistant coach Edited April 4, 2017 by mes102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 @lilroodude Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bUAkronG Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 I never said him having a poor demeanor made him less of a coach. I guess what I'm saying is all things considered I'm less excited about it than I should be based on my recollection of he used to behave. That said, if he's as great of a recruiter as everyone says he is, then I'm interested to see how this turns out. I think myself and lilroodude have the same outlook on him, essentially. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWAkron Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Tom Crean connected to Marquette. Is Groce a head fake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 6 minutes ago, NWAkron said: Tom Crean connected to Marquette. Is Groce a head fake? Don't you do this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Groce's demeanor reminds me too much of Hipsher. You're coaching a group of guys playing a GAME Groce - it's NOT Life or Death! Give that vein that's popping out on the side of your head a break! No thanks. Next ... Edited April 4, 2017 by GoZips88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Ya'll reasons for not wanting Groce are just weird. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagle66 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 27 minutes ago, lilroodude said: To add to my earlier post as I sit here bored at work, pondering a John Groce-led Zips program, Groce is part of the reason I came to dislike OU so much. With that being said... With a trip to the Sweet Sixteen, I'd consider going out and getting a beet-red John Groce tattoo. The fact that Caris LaVert had committed to OU (de-committed when Groce left, correct?) speaks volumes. Then again, Dambrot had a commitment from Dylan Ennis. I don't know. I'm torn. LeVert didn't just commit, he had signed his LOI. Ohio released him from it when Groce left for Illinois. He also had Evan Bradds (2 time OVC POY at Belmont) committed for the following year. Groce recruited very well at this level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZachTheZip Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, LZIp said: Ya'll reasons for not wanting Groce are just weird. Yeah, God forbid we want a coach capable of putting together a good conference record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Yeah Groce was on the verge of making the MAC his b**** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGoZips94 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 3 minutes ago, Eagle66 said: LeVert didn't just commit, he had signed his LOI. Ohio released him from it when Groce left for Illinois. He also had Evan Bradds (2 time OVC POY at Belmont) committed for the following year. Groce recruited very well at this level. Impressive. Apparently, he also recruited well at Illinois. There were people clamoring for the University not to fire him out of fear of losing their recruits. Like I said, I'm torn. I don't like his coaching style, but I'd also take a Sweet Sixteen run, or even Elite 8 just to tick off the OU fans even more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zippy5 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, lilroodude said: Like I said, I'm torn. I don't like his coaching style, but I'd also take a Sweet Sixteen run, or even Elite 8 Heck I'd settle for a final four. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LZIp Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, ZachTheZip said: Yeah, God forbid we want a coach capable of putting together a good conference record. There have been very little of those comments and much more of people not wanting him because of his demeanor/coaching look/taking things too seriously (whatever that is supposed to mean). I guess you all don't like NCAA wins though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Pouch Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Per the kitten network, Add OSU's Oden and Conley to list of past recruits by Groce. If this guy falls into our lap, we should be pretty happy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoZips88 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Sorry. The end doesn't justify the means for me. Yelling, screaming, throwing clipboards, berating players and referees aren't my style. Just a difference of opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZipsVoice Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 41 minutes ago, mes102 said: Since this search is coming to an end it seems, here was the list of names I gave our AD on 3/28, a week ago from today. ========================================== Tom Crean - Former Indiana & Marquette head coach John Groce - Former Illinois & Ohio head coach Jack Perri - LIU-Brooklyn former head coach ============================================ Jeff Boals - StonyBrook current head coach Brian Jones - North Dakota current head coach John Becker - Vermont current head coach Nick McDevitt - UNC-Asheville current head coach Russell Turner - UC-Irvine current head coach Jim Less - UC-Davis current head coach Pat Skerry - Towson current head coach Greg Kampe - Oakland current head coach John Brennan - Northern Kentucky current head coach King Rice - Monmouth current head coach Tim Cluess - Iona current head coach Jamion Christian - Mount St. Mary's current head coach Rick Byrd - Belmont current head coach Ray Harper - Jacksonville State current head coach Brett Reed - Lehigh current head coach Mike Slessinger - New Orleans current head coach Rod Barnes - Cal State-Bakersfield current head coach ================================================= Lamont Paris - Wisconsin current associate head coach, NOW HIRED AS CHATTANOOGA HEAD COACH Travis Steele - Xavier current associate head coach Larry Davis - Cincinnati current associate head coach Kenny Johnson - Louisville current associate head coach Larry Harrison - West Virginia current associate head coach Dwayne Stephens - Michigan State current associate head coach Matt Figger - South Carolina current associate head coach, NOW HIRED AS AUSTIN PEAY HEAD COACH Rod Balanis - Notre Dame current associate head coach ================================================== Brian James - Northwestern assistant coach Steve Lutz - Creighton assistant coach Jerrance Howard - Kansas assistant coach Chris Jent - Ohio State current assistant coach Billy Donlon - Michigan current assistant coach, former Wright St head coach Terry Johnson - Butler current assistant coach Limiting the AD a little with such a small list.... (: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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