Game Number One: Wyoming

[Blue & Gold]

Only one game into the season & we're already so cranky 🤣😭😭😭

[kreed5120]

53 minutes ago, Blue & Gold said:

Only one game into the season & we're already so cranky 🤣😭😭😭

It's 20 years of built up frustration. Everyone has a boiling point.

[Spin]

12 hours ago, kreed5120 said:

 

I’m actually on the same page with most of this and have expressed similar thoughts myself. One program I think might make sense to keep at both schools however is nursing, given the existing shortages in the field. That issue is only likely to grow as the boomer generation continues to age, requiring more healthcare, while they will also be also leaving the workforce.

 

It would be more the engineering, business, liberal arts, etc that I think would make the most sense to divide. Allow each school to plow as much resources into what they're best at. This way we can offer a higher quality education in our region. There will still be plenty of competition as we will be competing with other states and private campuses.

Nursing remains the greatest need in the professional careers. That’s certainly true in NE Ohio and facilities want BSN’s.
 

A lot of experienced nurses are taking their BSN’s and going into management. Or becoming nurse practitioners. That leaves holes in direct patient care. 

[dre22era]

6 hours ago, ZipCat said:

 

Boise State does not make a profit. Of their annual revenue:

 

-$3,700,000 comes from student fees.
-$12,000,000 comes from school funds.

Men Lie Women Lie My Numbers and References Don't 

You sound about as dumb and naive as a UA Board of Trustee Member 

 

[dre22era]

6 hours ago, ZipCat said:

 

And you apparently don't think past a headline, and misrepresent what other people are saying. If your program is receiving money from student fees, your program is a net negative. Period. Fullstop. 

 

If your program is receiving non-football donation or other school funds, your program is a net negative.

 

Guess what? Akron Football has a Revenue of $30,000,000! Must be good right!? Except $20,000,000 comes from non-football other school funds, which is in most-part a student-fee that's not designated for football, but mostly goes to football.

 

Boise State Football receives $15,000,000 of subsidy to break-even. All while it's cutting programs slashing budgets elsewhere on campus. It's an eff'n joke.

 

You could cut the program tomorrow and it'd be a net positive windfall for Boise State.

Stick to doing your own taxes 

 

[exit322]

21 hours ago, dre22era said:

Yeh give us apparel we can buy from the team shop to support our own damn team 

 

Now you're speaking crazy talk

[ZipCat]

1 hour ago, dre22era said:

Stick to doing your own taxes 

 

Just so we're clear on this point: Boise State doesn't make a profit...as you're pretending it does. 

[dre22era]

4 minutes ago, ZipCat said:

 

Just so we're clear on this point: Boise State doesn't make a profit...as you're pretending it does. 

[ZipCat]

1 hour ago, dre22era said:

Men Lie Women Lie My Numbers and References Don't 

You sound about as dumb and naive as a UA Board of Trustee Member 

 

 

"Most valuable" DOES NOT MEAN Most Profitable. If you have to be subsidized by $15,000,000 from non-football funds in order to be solvent, you are a net negative. Yeah this list =/= Profitable, and just because 74 other programs are in worse shape doesn't mean you're in god shape.

 

I swear do you ever critically think about this stuff before you post? Did you get a degree in marketing? Because you're pretty good at peddling bullshit.

[ZipCat]

Just now, dre22era said:

 

Are you? $15-million subsidy the program counts as "revenue". 

 

Next you're going to tell us the Akron Football program turns a profit while receiving $19-million subsidy.

[dre22era]

10 minutes ago, ZipCat said:

 

Are you? $15-million subsidy the program counts as "revenue". 

 

Next you're going to tell us the Akron Football program turns a profit while receiving $19-million subsidy.

Yeh you are really stupid

If Boise State was broke they definitely wouldn't have left the Mountain West for the Pack 12 

You said name a successful mid major and I gave you one. 

You are clearly too stubborn to accept the L 

Boise State college football program valued at $91 million

 

 

Edited 5 hours ago by dre22era

[dre22era]

44 minutes ago, ZipCat said:

 

"Most valuable" DOES NOT MEAN Most Profitable. If you have to be subsidized by $15,000,000 from non-football funds in order to be solvent, you are a net negative. Yeah this list =/= Profitable, and just because 74 other programs are in worse shape doesn't mean you're in god shape.

 

I swear do you ever critically think about this stuff before you post? Did you get a degree in marketing? Because you're pretty good at peddling bullshit.

Im pretty good at referencing facts to back my sh!t up 
You should try that some time. Homer 

Edited 4 hours ago by dre22era

[LZIp]

27 minutes ago, ZipCat said:

 

Are you? $15-million subsidy the program counts as "revenue". 

 

Next you're going to tell us the Akron Football program turns a profit while receiving $19-million subsidy.

In what world do you think Akron football is subsidized anywhere close to that figure? Total athletics, maybe. But the football budget doesn’t even come close to that 

[kreed5120]

I've said before that athletics is just a marketing arm for schools. Boise State enrollment has grown from 16k to 26k in the last 25 years, which lines up with the time that their football has become relevant. They have grown much more rapidly than other in state public Universities in Idaho. In large part because their football and basketball programs provide an improved college experience relative to their competition.

 

Boise State is one of the few G5s that has been getting a return on their investments when it comes to what they spend on athletics. The $15 million the University spends on subsidizing athletics is a drop in the bucket compared to the revenue they're receiving from having 10k additional students paying tuition. Not to mention donations they receive by keeping their growing alumni base engaged.

 

All of that said, Boise State is unique. They have no real in state competition. Trying to replicate what they have achieved is near impossible since everyone, including Cincinnati, lives in OSU shadows.

Edited 4 hours ago by kreed5120

[ZipCat]

12 minutes ago, LZIp said:

In what world do you think Akron football is subsidized anywhere close to that figure? Total athletics, maybe. But the football budget doesn’t even come close to that 

 

Here. 

[ZipCat]

36 minutes ago, dre22era said:

Yeh you are really stupid

If Boise State was broke they definitely wouldn't have left the Mountain West for the Pack 12 

You said name a successful mid major and I gave you one. 

You are clearly too stubborn to accept the L 

Boise State college football program valued at $91 million

 

 

 

No it's more like I'm not going to accept someone pissing on my shoes on something that's blatantly not true. If Boise State Football is generating so much of a profit, than why is the University subsiding, and student fees supporting it?

 

That's. What. You. Call. Bullshit.

 

They count that stuff as revenue. It's a subsidy. That's bullshit and you and I both know it.  You're participating in propagating the bullshit.

[dre22era]

11 minutes ago, kreed5120 said:

I've said before that athletics is just a marketing arm for schools. Boise State enrollment has grown from 16k to 26k in the last 25 years, which lines up with the time that their football has become relevant. They have grown much more rapidly than other in state public Universities in Idaho. In large part because their football and basketball programs provide an improved college experience relative to their competition.

 

Boise State is one of the few G5s that has been getting a return on their investments when it comes to what they spend on athletics. The $15 million the University spends on subsidizing athletics is a drop in the bucket compared to the revenue they're receiving from having 10k additional students paying tuition.

 

All of that said, Boise State is unique. They have no real in state competition. Trying to replicate what they have achieved is near impossible since everyone, including Cincinnati, lives in OSU shadows.

No one will ever touch Ohio State but mid majors in Ohio can still thrive 

[dre22era]

5 minutes ago, ZipCat said:

 

No it's more like I'm not going to accept someone pissing on my shoes on something that's blatantly not true. If Boise State Football is generating so much of a profit, than why is the University subsiding, and student fees supporting it?

 

That's. What. You. Call. Bullshit.

 

They count that stuff as revenue. It's a subsidy. That's bullshit and you and I both know it.  You're participating in propagating the bullshit.

When Morehead gets the boot please take your illiterate ass with him down by the river. 

Edited 4 hours ago by dre22era

[ZipCat]

 

39 minutes ago, dre22era said:

Im pretty good at references facts to back my sh!t up 
You should try that some time. Homer 

 

I literally have backed up every single thing I've said. I already posted it for you, which you clearly didn't read because you decided to go on a cherry-picking expedition.

 

"Student Fees" and "School Funds" are subsidies. They are not being generated BY the football team, and are being generated to cover expenses.

 

Guess which schools don't have those? The only ones actually turning a profit.

[ZipCat]

2 minutes ago, dre22era said:

No one will ever touch Ohio State but mid majors in Ohio can still thrive 

 

And Youngsown State does not run a profit. It subsidizes it with $13-million. SIZE is not how profitable it is. No YSU is not an example of "thriving". Talk to anyone who actually goes there, or works there, and they'll tell you about the absolutely disastrous financial situation that university is in.

[dre22era]

1 minute ago, ZipCat said:

 

 

I literally have backed up every single thing I've said. I already posted it for you, which you clearly didn't read because you decided to go on a cherry-picking expedition.

 

"Student Fees" and "School Funds" are subsidies. They are not being generated BY the football team, and are being generated to cover expenses.

 

Guess which schools don't have those? The only ones actually turning a profit.

1st you said boise state are a joke and can't compete
then you continue to move the goalpost claiming their are barely making ends meet when in fact they are one of the top valued programs in the country. 
You are an absolute joke and embarrassment to UA
You are the prime example of the certified idiots running UA Football who need to go. 

Stubborn asshole 

 

[dre22era]

1 minute ago, ZipCat said:

 

And Youngsown State does not run a profit. It subsidizes it with $13-million. SIZE is not how profitable it is. No YSU is not an example of "thriving". Talk to anyone who actually goes there, or works there, and they'll tell you about the absolutely disastrous financial situation that university is in.

[ZipCat]

6 minutes ago, dre22era said:

When Morehead gets the boot please take ya ass with him down by the river. 

 

Dude I was done with the Football program when they fired Terry Bowden. Bowden was a Nationally Recognized Name, and you fired him the same year you beat your only Big-10 team in history, a year removed from a MACC appearance for a no-name coach from John Carroll. Paying them both at the same time.

 

Please stop defending this BS.

[dre22era]

2 minutes ago, ZipCat said:

 

Dude I was done with the Football program when they fired Terry Bowden. Bowden was a Nationally Recognized Name, and you fired him the same year you beat your only Big-10 team in history, a year removed from a MACC appearance for a no-name coach from John Carroll. Paying them both at the same time.

 

Please stop defending this BS.

Then why are you here genius 

You clearly don't know my history on here of calling out the football program. 
 

Edited 4 hours ago by dre22era

[ZipCat]

1 minute ago, dre22era said:

1st you said boise state are a joke and can't compete
then you continue to move the goalpost claiming their are barely making ends meet when in fact they are one of the top valued programs in the country. 
You are an absolute joke and embarrassment to UA
You are the prime example of the certified idiots running UA Football who need to go. 

Stubborn asshole 

 

 

They cannot compete, they got crushed by Penn State even with the bye, even with having the better seeding.

 

I have moved ZERO goalposts, I have been completely consistent with the fact that their program is not solvent (because it isn't) and that they receive "revenue" from the University general budget and student fees (which is a fact).

 

No, I'm the canary in the coalmine saying enough of this eff'n bullshit. Enough is enough. The absolute eff'n joke is the people defending this absolute waste of money on a program that will never be competitive; and even if it were to become like Boise State (which it won't) it will still be a financial drain on the University. 

 

You are intellectually dishonest. You live in a delusional world, and you're part of the problem of why this runaway train has gotten so out of control. Alumni like you are part of the problem. Our University is in a terrible financial situation because of moronic takes like these.