Let'sGoZips94 Posted 15 hours ago Report Posted 15 hours ago 2 hours ago, GP1 said: Where are they going to go and who is going to pay their exit fee for the ACC? Let's not act like the Big Ten and SEC wouldn't be interested in the aforementioned brands. The Big 12 would also be interested in a few, including some of the others I'd imagine. Quote
GP1 Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 7 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Let's not act like the Big Ten and SEC wouldn't be interested in the aforementioned brands. The Big 12 would also be interested in a few, including some of the others I'd imagine. Interested enough to pay the massive exit fee to the ACC for inferior products? Wouldn't it make more sense, and cost nothing, to just wait out the inevitable separation of P4 schools from G5 and the NCAA? Quote
Let'sGoZips94 Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, GP1 said: Interested enough to pay the massive exit fee to the ACC for inferior products? Wouldn't it make more sense, and cost nothing, to just wait out the inevitable separation of P4 schools from G5 and the NCAA? The exit fee reduces to $75m in a few years if I'm not mistaken. That'll be picked up in a heartbeat. Quote
zippy5 Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago So the Big 12 is currently ahead of the ACC, but the Big Ten and SEC want all the ACC brands and not Big 12 brands? Interesting Quote
kreed5120 Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago (edited) TBF Miami (FL), North Carolina, and Florida St. are all bigger brands than anything left in the Big 12. The ACC just has a lot more dead weight. The Big 12 is more solid top to bottom. Their strength is in their depth. If you're an B1G school and you want to add 2 schools it would make sense they would take 2 of the bigger brands from the ACC over any of the teams from the Big 12 IMO. Edited 2 hours ago by kreed5120 Quote
zippy5 Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago (edited) Excluding ND, the ACC has seven teams with a more valuable athletic department than the Big 12's top program https://www.cnbc.com/2025/12/19/cnbc-official-college-sports-valuations-2025-top-75-athletic-programs.html Edited 3 hours ago by zippy5 Quote
Let'sGoZips94 Posted 2 hours ago Report Posted 2 hours ago 1 hour ago, zippy5 said: So the Big 12 is currently ahead of the ACC, but the Big Ten and SEC want all the ACC brands and not Big 12 brands? Interesting The Big 12 has a deeper conference IMO and a carved out niche geographically. Basketball wise, it's the best conference in the country. It'll be the last conference to succumb to the Big 10/SEC suction. Quote
exit322 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago 13 hours ago, Let'sGoZips94 said: Let's not act like the Big Ten and SEC wouldn't be interested in the aforementioned brands. The Big 12 would also be interested in a few, including some of the others I'd imagine. The Big 12 is probably interested in half of the ACC brands. The Big Ten might be interested in two. Not sure anyone beyond Florida State or Clemson moves the needle enough for media rights. And not even sure those two do. Basketball doesn't matter, not enough money there to bother. Quote
exit322 Posted 1 hour ago Report Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 1 hour ago, kreed5120 said: TBF Miami (FL), North Carolina, and Florida St. are all bigger brands than anything left in the Big 12. The ACC just has a lot more dead weight. The Big 12 is more solid top to bottom. Their strength is in their depth. If you're an B1G school and you want to add 2 schools it would make sense they would take 2 of the bigger brands from the ACC over any of the teams from the Big 12 IMO. Florida State is bigger than any Big 12 brand. Clemson likely is as well. The Big 12 is the more secure league because they then probably have the next six-eight marketable brands after those two, but not so "marketable" as to be interesting enough to the SEC or B1G. Miami is good at spending on the football, but their brand isn't as big as much of the Big 12. They're heard of, sure, but just don't bring the eyeballs. UNC isn't good at the sport that matters for media dollars, and they don't seem to outwardly care about it. They're not a brand the B1G or SEC would have much interest in until they fix that (which is probably why the weird desperation play for Belichick). Edited 1 hour ago by exit322 Quote
kreed5120 Posted 25 minutes ago Report Posted 25 minutes ago (edited) 1 hour ago, exit322 said: Florida State is bigger than any Big 12 brand. Clemson likely is as well. The Big 12 is the more secure league because they then probably have the next six-eight marketable brands after those two, but not so "marketable" as to be interesting enough to the SEC or B1G. Miami is good at spending on the football, but their brand isn't as big as much of the Big 12. They're heard of, sure, but just don't bring the eyeballs. UNC isn't good at the sport that matters for media dollars, and they don't seem to outwardly care about it. They're not a brand the B1G or SEC would have much interest in until they fix that (which is probably why the weird desperation play for Belichick). You forgot it's about a lot more than just being good. If success was all that mattered Rutgers and Maryland wouldn't be in the B1G. North Carolina is an attractive team not just because of basketball. They're in a rapidly growing market and has lots of businesses. Clemson IMO is a washed has been football program. They don't have the money to compete in this NIL era, which is why they've regressed. They are probably the 5th or 6th best option for someone to pluck off. A program like UNC has money to compete, especially when you consider they would get a nice bump in TV revenue joining the B1G. Edit: What do you mean UNC doesn't care about football? They made a huge financial commitment to football just last year by bringing in Bellichick. They wouldn't be doing that if they didn't care. Edited 22 minutes ago by kreed5120 Quote
zippy5 Posted 19 minutes ago Report Posted 19 minutes ago Clemson spent the most in NIL in the ACC last year, 9th in the country Quote
kreed5120 Posted 14 minutes ago Report Posted 14 minutes ago (edited) 4 minutes ago, zippy5 said: Clemson spent the most in NIL in the ACC last year, 9th in the country I'm surprised by that. A lot of the negative I've seen online has been about Dabo is his reluctance to embrace it. Edited 14 minutes ago by kreed5120 Quote
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