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Could you ever see anyone in Akron having the balls to do an "equivalent" to this? Assuming, of course that we won the prerequisite games... Reminds me of the old Cincinnati ads of a few years ago.

If you're going to keep pounding Ianello down our throats as some reason the Browns shouldn't practice here, show us your messages right after he was hired that you knew he would be a failure and how stupid you thought Wistercill was back then. Maybe you'll get your way and Cowlumbus or Can't will get the camp and you can rest comfortably looking at empty facilities that the University is spending $$$ maintaining. Think small, be small.

DiG, I totally agree with you about people making mistakes, learning, and getting better. Also, I really don't like bringing up the Rob Ianello hire over and over, but I've also read in numerous studies that often people have to hear something 6 times before they really get it. I don't know whether that exact number holds true, but I do know that because people often don't really listen, that repitition does help make a point. The other thing that I would say is that yes, I'm sure you've made mistakes as have I, but I'll bet you've done a lot of great things, too. People probably overlook your mistakes because you've also had numerous successes that show you know what you're doing. I think we have yet to see that from our AD. Some might point to the hiring of Terry Bowden as evidence of Tom's success. I don't know if Tom made the decision to actually ink him to a contract, but I do know from what I have read that "According to a source with knowledge of contract talks, Bowden reached out to Akron." Really, Tom didn't know Terry Bowden was a possibility even though numerous ZN.o members raised his name during the search that yielded RI? ZN.o members have better connections than our AD. Maybe, or maybe ZN.o members care more than Tom because UA is theirs forever, not temporarily. Apparently, TB fell into Tom's lap, and we now have a great coach from a great coaching family, and the Athletic Department still can't market Zips FB well. They have to grasp for help from the Cleveland Browns and at the same time possibly ruin something else that they've already built based apparently on little but gut feel? That's too much of a stretch for me without some real, hard evidence of proper forethought and openness on this proposal. Please provide me an example of what Tom has done to start me down the road of trusting and/or respecting him. EDIT: This ZN.o member, UA alumnus, and fan cares enough about his alma mater that I have reserved a seat at this Friday's Investiture of President Scarborough. I can't think of anything that I'd rather do less than sit through such a boring event on a Friday afternoon. But, I'm willing to do it just for the chance to ask our new President and any other of the powers that be about this proposal and other "great" plans they have for UA. The likelihood of my actually getting to talk with any of them is probably quite low, but UA matters enough to me to take the chance.

If you read my post, there was nothing cocky about it. In fact it contains a very realistic qualifier: "Assuming that we won the prerequisite games." You are taking a fun thread completely out of context, and telling everyone what they obviously already know. The question is: "If Akron won the prerequisite football games, wouldn't it be fun to see an add like NIU's run in a local paper?" Would any local alumni have the balls to run it, in Akron -- "The Heart of Buckeye Country"? Was anyone else at the JAR when that "Zippy - Thriller" video ran, and Zippy introduced everyone to "Brutus Blackeye"? Everyone was clapping along to the video until... Zippy nailed Brutus in the face with the basketball. Then half the crowd sat in stunned silence, while the other half cheered. That 3-second snapshot spoke volumes about "Zips Fans."

No, Balsy. Fallacious. Moving from status quo bears the burden of proof. The idea to change something must be proven worthy, not the other way around. I do not have the burden to prove your new idea as bad. You must prove your new idea as good.

What's the message? We lost to an average PSU Team but we want OSU? How about we win before you guys get delusional....and not just Marshall. N Illinois has history of winning recently...we didnt even win our last game.

Please keep coach Peters in your thoughts and prayers as he recovers from surgery due to complications from his bout with cancer. Dan is an inspiration to all those who know him with his attitude and determination to not let this disease take away his dignity and spirit.

The Beer Market next to PNC is a fun place as well. BYO-Food Sienna Mercato downtown is a new, awesome place. Next to Dr. Z's recommendation of Tenpenny.