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Cutting cross country doesn't really save much money. I know they talked about making baseball self funded when they revived the program. I have no idea how true that ended up being. Baseball I know at most northern schools is among the most expensive Olympic sports to run, but if it's 70%-80% booster funded, cutting it probably doesn't save us much money either.

We've already seen it. Bowden had an 8-5 season and it didn't change anything. It would take prolonged success before Joe Akron's opinion of the program would ever change.

Yes, my comments just wasn't about the money. He jokingly said his full-time job is being the GM for the basketball program. He's very involved in the recruiting process and takes time to meet with the kids when they come to campus. I'm saying it's not feasible for 1 guy to be as involved in every facet when you're actively trying to bring in 5x the number of players compared to basketball in a given year. It would need to be a more divide and conquer approach.

Why would the MVC want them for Olympic sports? It's a basketball first conference and NIU is horrendous. My guess is the best they could hope for would be something like the Horizon, Summit, or OVC. That's also probably why Toledo isn't taking a harder look at the invite. Toledo actually cares about basketball. They likely don't want to take a huge step down in basketball just so they can fly halfway a crossed to country to play in a slightly better G5 conference. Mind you all the best MWC football schools were raided already by the PAC-12.

I think that's easier said than done. Basketball has 13 scholarship players per roster. In a year where you turn over half your roster you're recruiting 6-7 new guys. In football, where all schools are spending more money and resources to recruit, you have 85 scholarships. Between transfers and incoming freshman, you're recruiting ~30 players a year. Not to mention spending time to re-recruit the remaining ~55 guys to avoid them from entering the portal. You would probably need ~5 Bud Wentz for football to have a similar impact. Pretty much one required per position group.

It might of been in that audio file from a podcast someone shared, but I thought Bud in the interview said he was assisting people in getting a collective started for football. I'm not sure where that's at or if it ever got off the ground. It sounded basketball keeps Bud busy. It would likely take Kaulig or someone else to take the lead for football.

The numbers I saw elsewhere were 7 million over 5 years, $1.4 million/yr. Exactly double what he's making currently. He's 60 and this is his last chance for a pay day to set his family up long-term. I can't really blame him. It's just more sad to see how far the MAC has fallen. 10 years ago it it was bottom feeder P5 coaches or upper tier G5 programs plucking our top coaches. Now the bottom feeders at other G5 programs are now able to do the same.

NET rankings aren't necessarily about wins and losses. In the eyes of NET a 1 point loss on the road at Kentucky is going to be better than a 8 point win at home against some NET 300+ team.

I feel as though UMass has had more funding than MAC schools for quite some time. They still often find themselves in or around the bottom 10 as they don't seem to have spent it well.

This is my take away from all this discussion as well.

Which location?

Groce inherited both Utomi and Ivey who were both great. The issue was there wasn't much besides them.

Exactly, it's probably the heaviest recruited area in the country. The part of the country that I feel gets slept on is the Midwestern states of MN, WI, IL, etc. Those states don't produce a ton of 5* talent so it appears many schools spend little to no time recruiting it. It however has a lot of quality G5 talent. Much of that talent seems to find its way onto the the roster of the Dakota FCS programs, which dominate the subdivison.

I saw that one. I was referring to the OP. @Blue & Goldshared a tweet from professional zip. I can read professional Zips tweet, but the account he was referencing appears to have since been deleted.

What was said in the tweet? It appears it has since been deleted.

It's a really tough situation when your coach retires right after you have your best season in decades. There are two options. One is to promote within hoping that you can keep the core players in tact, but likely settling for a less qualified candidate than you could get from a national search. The other option is to hire an external candidate and face a complete rebuild as the bulk of the players will likely transfer. Killing really any momentum of building off the success.

It's still too early to base anything off of Kenpom. The ratings have preseason expectations built into the formula until around mid-January. Much of what you say about the MAC being weak will remain true, but any team specific ranking is subject to change as preseason expectation data gets replaced by real world game results.

I was away most of the day so I was unable to watch most of the game. Looking at the boxscore I was quick to notice that we struggled to secure rebounds on the defensive end. Omaha had 11 offensive boards and we had 13 defensive rebounds. It's going to come back and bite us against better teams if we can't rebound better.

I'm not sure if I should leave a laughing or crying emote lol

I've vocally criticized the MAC over the past year, but I'll give it it's due tonight. They went a perfect 4-0 tonight. They were favored in all 4 match-ups, but winning games that you're expected to win hasn't been the MAC's strong suit.

I'm surprised by the number of people who are expressing interest in an all tournament ticket. I wouldn't have guessed so many would want to sit on wooden bleachers for ~5 hours to watch both the Akron game plus 2 random cupcakes playing.

As a Zips fan, this would probably be for the best. I could just view the boxscore after work to see they lost. No need to waste hours of my evening watching the pathetic product we've been putting out the past ~15 years.

I couldn't imagine the PR hit Akron would take absorbing ~$1 million in payout hit for firing the coach and his staff at a time we're discussing major layoffs. Then again given Akron's track record of being poorly managed and being a PR nutcase, it would be onpoint.

It's a much bigger issue than the MAC commissioner. BGSU, Miami, and WMU all arguably are more committed to hockey than they are basketball. It's not like he can dictate how schools spend their limited resources. 5-10 years ago the MAC tried to introduce incentives to reward regular season and post season success by paying out larger shares of NCAA tournament credits to teams that do well. The issue is the MAC more times than not doesn't make it past the 1st round of the tournament so the MAC isn't earning enough credits to make the incentives large enough to motivate teams to compete. It's more profitable for CMU to forego the incentives and take paychecks to play on the road.

Yes, and St. Mary's is very much on par with the middle to bottom half of P4 schools. If he doesn't want to face the Kentucky's of the world there is no real difference between a St. Mary's and an Ole Miss.