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I noticed the same thing...the moving and passing away from the basket. Just looked really odd and high schoolish. I would say the lack of effort was in the sloppy turnovers as if the players weren't in the moment. The attitude probably goes hand in hand with that. Groce has the luxury of experimenting at this point.

We are getting our comeuppance after years of domination during the regular season. And there were moments last night where it really hurt watching this play out. I was admittedly in denial about how bad this season could be. (Definitely a grief stage) Blaming Dambrot or Groce isn't productive any more for my thought process. They are both excellent coaches. My hope is that these frosh and sophomores improve. I get the impression that most of these players are set in skills when they arrive. They don't develop shooting skills in college. As for Zeke, even in his first few years he would get to basket. I remember many games when our first points were Zeke at the foul line. Cotton got to the foul line last night...a lot.

We've definitely moved into "wait and see"mode. There's nothing I can say that isn't painfully obvious to everyone else in the world of Zipsnation. However, I'm not one who is giving up. In the realm of "painfully obvious"I noticed some of our players making attempts to get inside and make a basket unfortunately it wasn't Sayles or Eman or Kostelac.

I understand that music dept is separate from the athletic department but it would be nice to have a band for some of these winter break games.

Just put these karate kids in for 2nd half.

Utomi has 3 fouls.

To quote W.B. Yeats:. "Things fall apart. The center cannot hold."

Anything else?

Really? That's our record? Where did you find that information?

all those great inbounds plays I and a few others were talking about! good game for Zips. It's coming along. Quick look at stats...they were basically event except in FTs. Goodd tune up for Buffalo.

Confession: I really can't watch. I just follow the score on ESPN.

yes

oh. I'm looking for the MAC team we can lose to by fewer than 10 points. When do the Kittens come to town?

or not.

Since everything is topsy turvy I'm going with the Zips tonight only because we usually tank against Toledo much like we usually won against WMU. Excitement is Building!

Skip I really appreciate your posts and enjoy the back and forth but chill on telling us what we care and don't care about. Dambrot methods v. Groce methods is a fun debate perfect for a sports blog. And considering the dull nature of the season so far that debate is the only game in town until this team pulls off some big wins or something else crazy happens.

I think it's much harder now because of the deliberate seeding to eliminate cinderellas early. While viewers like the underdog, a MAC school doesn't have the high $ fans.

As usual lilroodude is correct

Seriously? Our team ran through seniors Big Dog and Kwan last year. The prior coach new EXACTLY what this year would be like for him and the team. He knew the ability of Eman, and I'm certain he knew that Noah and Antino would leave or were also on the way out. They also knew the team was in big trouble this year. Little guards are easy to find, but talented big men are few. Oh, wait, if we only had Michael Hughes.

How the mighty have fallen. Bobcats and Kent also had fateful road trips.

Yeah. Looking forward to next year. Big men are just awful.

Considering they are bad in second half, we are looking at 20+ point loss. WMU owes us a lot of revenge. They will run it up on us.

What a mess. Can't wait for the Buffalo game.

It's show time! Conversation at my house, "yeah, they will get their asses kicked.". Ugh...WMU former guard doing color.

I'm so happy these two worked out their differences. So I guess Virshon learned that, when it comes down to a choice between him and Ivey, Jimond will always win.