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I am sure many of you are much smarter than I am and i openly admit it. This is a pretty good article it is long but to me interesting and I think some of you may find it interesting. Walgren suggested the football team cut three players for poor academics and they didn't and then a fourth who had a gpa of .74 and they did not. It goes into depth for the reasoning and i'm not pointing fingers in agreement or disagreement just saying the article is well written and explains a lot. It also says at the end the ban "could continue into next year" but that is just a possibility. I am relying some of you brainiacs to translate a lot of this for me. I do think Mr Brown did a good job though.

sorry guys. you might be stuck with him ....

guess he was too worried about playing for a retired nfl player like eddie george if he chose joe moe of BG????

If anyone is interested.... I really thought Dall, Gant, and Laventure should have been higher... and I'm surprised Dewalt didn't get mentioned (PFF had Dewalt and Reed has the second and third rated CB's in the MAC) they didn't get mentioned at all. Laventure is the second rated interior lineman in the MAC, Summers the 7th rated linebacker, and Dall the 9th rated Edge rusher AHEAD of Voorhies. White from UMASS is the seventh rated edge rusher in the ENTIRE country and somehow gets second team MAC, make that make sense???) Can't argue about Heldman and Trick though... 2025 MAC Football Postseason Specialty Awards & All-Conference Teams Coach of the Year: Lance Taylor, Western Michigan Vern Smith Leadership Award Winner: Nadame Tucker, DE, Western Michigan Offensive Player of the Year: Broc Lowry, QB, Western Michigan Defensive Player of the Year: Nadame Tucker, DE, Western Michigan Special Teams Player of the Year: Da’Realyst Clark, KOR, Kent State Freshman of the Year: Cameron Pettaway, RB/KOR, Bowling Green 2025 All-MAC First Team Offense Quarterback – Broc Lowry, Western Michigan Offensive Lineman – Trevor Brock, Buffalo Offensive Lineman – Davion Weatherspoon, Ohio Offensive Lineman – Anthony Boswell, Toledo Offensive Lineman – Raheem Anderson, Western Michigan Offensive Lineman – Chad Schuster, Western Michigan Tight End – Jyrin Johnson, Bowling Green Wide Receiver – Nik McMillan, Buffalo Wide Receiver – Victor Snow, Buffalo Wide Receiver – Kam Perry, Miami Wide Receiver – Junior Vandeross III, Toledo Running Back – Sieh Bangura, Ohio Running Back – Chip Trayanum, Toledo Placekicker – Dom Dzioban, Miami 2025 All-MAC First Team Defense Defensive Lineman – Nathan Voorhis, Ball State Defensive Lineman – Michael Heldman, Central Michigan Defensive Lineman – Adam Trick, Miami Defensive Lineman – Nadame Tucker, Western Michigan Linebacker – Gideon Lampron, Bowling Green Linebacker – Red Murdock, Buffalo Linebacker – Jordan Kwiatkowski, Central Michigan Linebacker – K’Von Sherman, Toledo Defensive Back – Eli Blakey, Miami Defensive Back – Emmanuel McNeil-Warren, Toledo Defensive Back – Andre Fuller, Toledo Defensive Back – Braden Awls, Toledo Punter – Keegan Andrews, UMass 2025 All-MAC First Team Specialists Kickoff Return Specialist – Cameron Pettaway, Bowling Green Kickoff Return Specialist – Da’Realyst Clark, Kent State 2025 All-MAC Second Team Offense Quarterback – Parker Navarro, Ohio Offensive Lineman – Nate Pabst, Bowling Green Offensive Lineman – Tyler Doty, Buffalo Offensive Lineman – Drew Terrill, Miami Offensive Lineman – Jordon Jones, Ohio Offensive Lineman – Ethan Spoth, Toledo Tight End – Joshua Long, Eastern Michigan Wide Receiver – Israel Polk, Akron Wide Receiver – Marcel Williams, Akron Wide Receiver – Chase Hendricks, Ohio Wide Receiver – Trayvon Rudolph, Toledo Running Back – Jordan Gant, Akron Running Back – Dontae McMillan, Eastern Michigan Placekicker – Jackson Kleather, Bowling Green 2025 All-MAC Second Team Defense Defensive Lineman – Julien Laventure, Akron Defensive Lineman – Jamond Mathis, Kent State Defensive Lineman – Marques White, UMass Defensive Lineman – Jay Crable, Ohio Defensive Lineman – Martez Poynter, Toledo Linebacker – Dakota Cochran, Central Michigan Linebacker – CJ Young, Kent State Linebacker – Corban Hondru, Miami Linebacker – Quinton Urwiler, Northern Illinois Defensive Back – Bryce Llewellyn, Eastern Michigan Defensive Back – Silas Walters, Miami Defensive Back – Avery Smith, Toledo Defensive Back – Tate Hallock, Western Michigan Punter – Dylan Drennan, Buffalo 2025 All-MAC Second Team Specialists Kickoff Return Specialist – Victor Snow, Buffalo Kickoff Return Specialist – Trayvon Rudolph, Toledo 2025 All-MAC Third Team Offense Quarterback – Tucker Gleason, Toledo Offensive Lineman – Keylen Davis, Akron Offensive Lineman – Mickey Rewolinski, Eastern Michigan Offensive Lineman – Eric Smith, Miami Offensive Lineman – Evan Malcore, Northern Illinois Offensive Lineman – Nick Marinaro, Ohio Tight End – Mason Williams, Ohio Wide Receiver – Langston Lewis, Central Michigan Wide Receiver – Nick Devereaux, Eastern Michigan Wide Receiver – Cade Wolford, Kent State Wide Receiver – Jacquon Gibson, UMass Running Back – Chavon Wright, Northern Illinois Running Back – Jalen Buckley, Western Michigan Placekicker – Jack Howes, Buffalo Placekicker - Cade Graham, Central Michigan 2025 All-MAC Third Team Defense Defensive Lineman – Bruno Dall, Akron Defensive Lineman – Junior Poyser, Buffalo Defensive Lineman – Malachi Davis, Toledo Defensive Lineman – Esean Carter, Toledo Linebacker – Mason Woods, Kent State Linebacker – Tyler Martin, UMass Linebacker – Jackson Kuwatch, Miami Linebacker – Chris D’Appolonia, Toledo Defensive Back – MJ Cannon, Bowling Green Defensive Back – Jalen McClendon, Bowling Green Defensive Back – Tank Pearson, Ohio Defensive Back – Josh Franklin, Western Michigan Punter – Mitchell Tomasek, Eastern Michigan 2025 All-MAC Third Team Specialists Kickoff Return Specialist – Dev’ion Reynolds, Northern Illinois Kickoff Return Specialist – Bryson Hammer, Toledo

If history repeats itself these freshmen won't see the field this year, they will develop and possibly see the field next year or the next similar to what Dall did. At some point a program is going to have to develop from within. A program is going to have to develop and bring in players from the portal as well... They only brought in seven players, there are still plenty of roster spots

If anyone is interested, Semaj Beals, the QB that commited is playing Friday night at 7 pm in the PA 5A state championshiop: Friday, 7 p.m. at Cumberland Valley HS (TV: PCN Audio Stream: PIAA Radio Network) PA classifies differently than Ohio I think. It goes 1A smallest to 6A the biggest. The article I read talks about Beals' High School and it brings back a lot of starters: "Chief among them is Beals, who is back under center for the Cahillites. The 6-1, 190-pound senior has thrown for 2,581 yards and 36 touchdowns this season, completing just under 65% of his pass attempts. " His top targets are seniors Ash Roberts (49-752, 10 TDs) and Eyan Stead (45-579, 10 TDs) and junior Eisa Nealy (32-479, 6 TDs). Stead and Nealy both saw action in last year's title game. Roman does most of its damage with Beals throwing the ball; the rush attack averages just over 100 yards per game, with sophomore Tre Montgomery (106-548, 2 TDs) leading the way.

i would guess building for the future... hoping that it pays off in a year or two.. 20+ freshman is crazy though. I saw that Akron actually signed more freshman than Penn State probably will never say those words again. I hope it pans out for the Zips. Now all they can do is every year just hope to patch holes with the transfer portal same as every other team but with way less to offer. Todays freshman that go into the major college programs and start are true studs... Maryland started two edge rushers and their qb that were all true freshman and I think I saw they played a total of seven as regulars watch out for them in two years. This year, Zips played McManus and I think that is it. He definitely held his own. I bet he is a stud next season. I know Boswell started but he was a prep player before, Davis got a few snaps at safety and Sivon got a few snaps at wr but thats it. Hopefully the freshman learned and are ready to contribute next year for us.

both guys from Monarch in ft. lauderdale. maybe that's why rigging signed here. 6'4 325 is a big lineman !

only thing I could find on Riggins was that he was top rated, he was considering Minnesota but he was not speaking publicly, however Akron may be top of his list if he was going G 5. Probably playing time. Come in play for one or two years and bounce. Unless you are a true super stud you go to any of those Power 4 schools you aren't seeing the field for two or three years. Come to Akron get on the field right away get that tape and go chase the dollars. Akron is nothing more than JUCO. That's it.

Yay, for him. Maybe he has great success. It's been one year. Little Zips history lesson... J.D. Brookhart 2004-09 (29-43) fired Rob Ianello 2010-2011 (2-11) fired Terry Bowden 2012-2018 (35-52) fired Tom Arthur 2019-2021 (3-24) fired Oscar Rodriguez interim 2021 0-3 It's obvious that Akron WANTS to win at football because they are not afraid to change coaches, I don't doubt that, but they either keep striking out with coaches OR they give up on them when it starts getting rough. Bowden went 8-5 and won the first bowl game in school history and was let go three years later when he went 4-8... It isn't always greener on the other side. Joe Moe has shown improvement each year despite having the odds stacked against him. Things like one less practice a week are a big issue. Not having NIL money is a big thing yet somehow, he still brings in decent talent and is able to compete in the MAC with really nothing to offer except playing time. I just don't understand the urgency to get rid of him when the team has shown improvement. I agree that there were games that could have/ probably should have been won, but nearly every program could say the same thing and there aren't too many undefeated teams still out there. Everyone on here that wants rid of Joe Moe assumes the next guy is automatically going to be better or is going to be the next Ryan Day and what if it isn't? What if it is the next Kenni Burns and it sets the program back ten years??? Joe Moe has steadily improved the program with no money, less staff, less recruiting opportunities, and less practices I would rather see him stay and see what he can do with those things added.

Serious question for all the Joe haters, if joe leaves what are your expectations? for the first three to four years you can't possibly expect to win more than two or three games a season and how much time are you going to give the new coach before you start calling for his removal? The issue with Zips football is not coaching it is not being able to compete financially with other institutions. Football players at akron get 91$ a month, big 10 football freshman players 35k a year. how do u compete with that? i watched a segment on lane kiffin. supposedly LSU is giving him a 25 million dollar war chest just for football. Kansas just got a huge donation from a hedge fund guy named booth for football and they named the stadium after him so now they have a huge war chest for football. the elevators at akron don't work in the dorms, don't work in the parking garages and they get 91$ a month. there are bigger issues than coaching. but honestly, how long do u give a new coach with a new staff and most likely a huge turnover of players because it wont be "his team" for four years of his players?

toledo beat central michigan and miami, oh is about to win i i believe if i heard correctly that means Miami is playing western michigan for the MAC championship because of a tie breaker...

central michigan is about to beat kent state. they are beating them 21-9 with four minutes left that means that central michigan is still in the running for mac championship AND kent will not be going to a bowl. its like yay we beat central michigan still competing for the championship but in the same breath we freaking lost to kent state !!!

finally something that Gp1 and I agree on ! I know the grass is not always greener on the other side but for one am ready to move on from the finley era. you could foresee every run/fumble him getting up acting like he had been hit harder than any player was ever hit in the game of football... I don't know if they will go with roggow, broughton, the new guy coming in or a transfer but i am ready to move on for sure...

OMG let's play a game how many wet dreams has GP1 had involving himself and eddie george? i'll start with at least 15 this football season... These players don't even know who eddie george is !!! The team went 1-6 in the conference and 3-8 overall. they had three players recently arrested and if you were at the game last night you would have seen them on more than one occasion acting like less than desirables. I'll stick with Joe Mo. thank you.

i thought Stroh Stadium was not nice at all. i have been to MANY high school stadiums that were nicer than it. A LOT nicer than it. I don't see how any fan that has actually been to it in person can say that it is a nice stadium. they don't even have restrooms... portopotties only. and the "big screen" looks like a 75" tv that u can't see anything on.

I was at the game last night. The Akron Stadium is much much nicer than Bowling Green Stadium. It was their last home game of the year obviously it was their senior night and it was far from a sellout crowd, even though they had a retired NFL player head coach. in my opinion, Joe is not going anywhere. He will be back next year and this form will be just as entertaining with all the haters on it next year I do personally hope he does better and I hope the team does better. I really want to see the zips succeed and I like the direction they are going. I hope the athletic director could find a way to support the program and hopefully the real fans start to come out and support it as well.

i heard spriggs is already meeting with an agent, Dall has his pick of schools, and Laventure is not coming back unless he is getting paid, we all know what that means. Laventure and Dall deserve it. I doubted them both at the start of the season but they absolutely proved me 100%.. I would love to see Riggs come back for one more season, but I think he is gone I was at the game last night better prepared for the cold weather, but it was the first time I realized how small gant really is in person. I thought he had a really good year and I think he is gonna get paid but he gets a portal as well. I think he will be gone. I don't think Bosworth has the numbers or the stats to really go anywhere I think according to PFF there's only like two linebackers rated lower than him in all of division one football. I think he needs one more year at least to play. He hardly played at all the last six or seven games I think.

First of many. i Know Cat will do a great job of this, my guess is at least 13 hit the portal. thoughts?

they don't he is wrong about that

what an interesting observation from someone not affiliated with the University and not subjected to all the constant crying about how horrible of a coach Joe Moe is....

let's just call it like it this. people are on fall into: a.) cancel program all together cause it's a waste of taxpayer money and they will never compete b.) get rid of joe moe that will solve all the problems or c.) my favorite being in an nfl player and that will pack the stands zips did better than i thought they would after starting 2-6. I give them credit. the players could have just thrown in the towel but they didn't. Kent state was heartbreaker but was an exciting game that could have gone either way. It's always easy to make all the right coaching decisions from the comfort of your couch and everyone on here can solve all the problems. that's why i come here

I have been to six games over the last two seasons, all home games. Last Tuesday was the first time I saw the Zips lose in person. I thought I was a lucky charm. The Toledo game last year that went into overtime was cold and I did not think the Zips were going to win that one but they pulled that one off. Tuesday night was by far the largest crowd I have seen there. It was fun even though it was cold. Both student sections were into the game, both have them had their brain dead fans with no shirts on and at sat there thinking how can my old fat body be shivering and they are over there with no shirts even in overtime? Then I remembered that they are not old and fat and they are probably two sheets to the wind and they will probably not even remember the game tomorrow. But regardless the atmosphere was fun... That's what rivalry games are supposed to be... I am all about playing whoever they have to play YSU or anyone that they can to build up some rivalries and some hatred and animosity towards. Until the team gets better it probably won't be a Toledo or Miami but maybe some day if Zips can play spoiler. But whoever said Toledo is on a different level right now is absolutely correct. Gleason looks really good. They have a very good foundation there and do a solid job of recruiting. I can't believe i am saying this and hopefully I don't get banned, but don't be surprised if Can't state does a decent job of recruiting. That coach is going to say, we are turning things around look we went at the very worst 4-8, but they are actually still contending to be bowl eligible and they should have beaten Buffalo and they should have/could have beaten Ball State. They are going to get some good recruits. The battle for the Wagon Wheel could and should be very exciting...

So I did look and you are right LZIP on paper we have at least 62 that could return. Out of those 62, I expect Durham, Dall, Laventure, Hull, Gant, King, Jones, Davis, and Reed at least to be gone. That would drop us down to 53. WR is strong if Mason, Williams, and Polk return, but Hills R-So, Sivon F, Louis R-So, Monz - R-F, Hauda - F, and Witherspoon R-F really have no experience (I'm sure they will get some transfers in that can contribute. Mason is awesome. If that kid was not so vertically challenge he definitely would have been at a Power 4 school. QB we have Roggow (6 snaps) and Broughton returning. (Brookhart will be a coach). It's funny Roggow is listed at 6'4 but he is likely if he is 6'2. I like how quickly he gets rid of the ball. I'm curious to see what the future is with him moving forward. I don't know what to expect out of the secondary. Reed is ranked 145 and has excellent size I think he will hit the portal. I liked when Somerville played Thomas and Kamara both have over 140 snaps and seem decent so we will see how they do at corner Safeties aren't rated high but they most likely will all be back. Linebackers Benege and Spriggs are both sophomores (Spriggs R-So) Spriggs is gone. Benege has 43 snaps Everyone is either a freshman or R-F Nittole 2 snaps, Hocker 38 snaps, Bosswell started the season but dropped off quite a bit. I do think that Reeves and James will be ready to go next year but that is a very young linebacking corps. TE, All three could come back. I think Cravaack has been great R-So, Whisner R-JR has done very well when he has gone in and Newell has been injury plagued all year so I think he will return he does not have anything to base leaving on. I did notice in the UMASS game that Kavals (FR D End) went in for the last two snaps as a tight end but it was only to take a knee so it probably doesn't mean anything. I can't see them moving him to tight end and keeping four there next year. But this is a very solid group to return. OL, King, Jones, and Davis will all hit the portal. I that McManus comes back for one more year. Out of Fox, Gould, Stopiak, and Kumfert nobody has more than 10 snaps except Mann who has 15 and Mobley who has 12. I don't know what is up with Shorr I never saw him play last year or this year but he is a big kid? RB, Gant gone. Patrick will be back I like him. He is explosive when he is on the field. Curry 17 snaps, Macon 15 snaps, Williams 52 snaps - Gee none and reed none so they will definitely need help there but I'm sure they can get another quality back there. DL. Durham, Dall, Hull, Laventure will all hit the portal. I was wrong Kai Murphy may come back he is a R-Jr, Mixon is a R-Jr. The twins aren't starters and are linebackers maybe they get moved there. Kavals, Brown-Demery, Bivens, Watkins all freshman with no snaps. I don't think Cheatom is coming back. And Duncan, Brown, Vega, Musiki, and Murphy have all been forgotten and all are walkons. I really don't think they will be back. Even if I was wrong and every single person returned and NO ONE hit the hit portal at all thats still 43 spots to fill with no qb experience returning, no OL experience returning except McManus. Gant and Patrick would be good but only if the OL is good. But I think if I remember correctly going into this year the defense was the big question mark especially on the line. Next year it looks like it is going to be the same on both sides the O line and the D line and the line backers are going to be very young as well. I'm not blaming Joe Moe or pushing for him to leave I'm not a hater... but whoever is here is going to have to be a coach with a "coaching staff". The team is going to be extremely young next year. I do think the important thing would be that the players that would be next year would be all Joe Moe's players and players that he has had so he should know what he has. That should be a good thing. If you brought in a new coach with a new coaching staff they are going to have to work with a majority of players that are left behind and not who they necessarily would have chosen. That sucks. Then they have to weed out the ones that they don't want and replace them which is going to take time and go through another rebuilding phase. The whole cycle just sucks and seems like an endless vicious repeat of ground hog day which i freaking hated after the first ten minutes....

I totally get it Cat and I do come off as though I am attacking one player. I guess the point I am trying to make is I think it is very poor coaching on the new D line coach. He plays four guys; Dall, Hull, Laventure, Durham. (Murphy and Mixon rotate in occasionally) That's it. The Frazier twins get some snaps here and there (D. Frazier 188, J. Frazier 88) and that's it. Cheatom came into the season with good numbers never gets on the field (39 snaps). The guy is crazy athletic and had good numbers for the number of snaps he played last year, as good as Dall last season. They bring in Murphy, Brown and Duncan as walkons. Murphy gets 11 snaps, Brown 15, and Duncan 8 snaps thats it. My point was that Durhams numbers don't justify the number of snaps that he has played and we know that Dall is gone and most likely Durham also, so there has been NO development at the edge position. The twins are not the answer going into next year. No fault of theirs, they are linebackers not edge rushers. I don't see any of the walkon's coming back. Look at the interior linemen: Laventure is gone and rightfully so, Hull will follow I would bet YOUR lunch money that he follows Marcus Moore and bounces if even to another MAC team and tries to get some money. Murphy is a senior, Madden red shirt senior, Vega walk on that has played 3 snaps can't see him coming back, and musika 82 snaps that is rated a 43 %. Mixon is a red shirt sophomore with good size that seems like his snaps are far and few between and when he starts producing gets taken out. Other than Mixon who on the defensive line next year is going to have any experience? You have four freshman: Brown-Demery 6-4 310 (looks closer to 6-5 315); Bivens 6'0 255; Watkins 6'5 240; and Kavals 6'5 265. All red shirted and have never gotten a snap. Not against Duquesne a total blowout, UMASS, total blowout, or Toledo embarrassing blowout. The starters were in until the very end padding their stats. How does that develop the program? It doesn't. They had four games they could have played and still be red shirted. Why not see what they could have done? Now are defensive line is going to be in an even worse position going into next year than it was this year. It just seems that knowing how the system is, they did nothing to prepare for the future of next year. I don't expect Leonard to be back. Personally I don't think the defensive line played well at all, he did nothing to develop them/they did not improve throughout the year, and he did nothing to develop for next year. I don't know about Tibs, obviously Joe Moe is the big unknown. No qb development, no offensive line development except McManus, no secondary development, whoever the coach is next year is definitely going to have to a lot of developing and A LOT of coaching....